Talk:The Yardbirds
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[edit] The long and interesting career of Simon Napier-Bell
When I was in London in 1980 three days after the death of Led Zeppelin's drummer John Bonham I was hangin out in Nomis Sound Studios over in Sheperd's Bush. As I walked in with my guitarist we met Nik Lowe who was runnung the place in Simon Napier's abscence since he was in Hong Kong doing God-knows-what with God-knows-who; but Bad Company was in studio A with Graham Parker and the Rumour (with I believe Brinsley-Schwartz on guitar) in studio c; Rockpile was in studio B and a new band called Girlschool was in studio D.
We were greeted warmly as we were staying with a friend down the street; a cat called Pete who had been in Cockney Rebel years before; Nik Lowe was also producing Brian Robertson's band Wild Horses brfore he had joined Motorhead; of course all of London was in mourning for Bonzo so there was nothing happening from King's Road to Dingwalls where the Ramones were hanging out.
Simon Napier Bell was also the manager of Cream at a time when; as Nik Cohn wrote "he was very flash, drove a sportscar and no one was sure where he had made his money"; in other words; a hustler from the French Riveria and a lot of othewr places.
My name is Christopher Witt Diamant. At the time we were hanging out in London Pearly Gates who was Cosmo Vinyl's girlfriend asked myself and my guitarist Chris Lind to join her band; Cosmo was the Clash's manager but Pearly Gates had been the girlfriend of Rafael of the Nuns in san Francisco when he was the drummer for the Nuns and also Rank and File; but we turned her down because she had fired John and Hilary Stanch from her band before coming to London. But Simon Napier Bell is still a major mover in Rock.
Signed; Christopher Witt Diamant scardone@comcast.net —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.80.193.252 (talk • contribs) .
[edit] Year of Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame inducting
The Yardbirds was inducted to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992, not 1990
[edit] NPOV
This has got to be one of the worst articles I've seen as far as keeping it neutral is concerned.
- "...as they hammered away at versions of such blues classics as..."
- "...his solo turns, while far enough from the gripping little gems..."
- plus many, many more examples...
And also, it reads like a piece out of Rolling Stone, which is all well and good... but not encyclopedic. I am not in a position to improve it, since I know next to nothing about the Yardbirds, but it's such a shame that a band like this has such a fanboyish article. plattopusis this thing on? 19:32, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The Article Isn't a Shame.
True that parts of it sound like it could come from a Rolling Stone ENCYCLOPEDIA of Rock & Roll, that's right that's from an encyclopedia so it seems contradictory to call it not encyclopedic, the best place to get encyclopedic info on music would probably be a music encyclopedic. The neutrality isn't really that bad, a few sentences are too descriptive for some tastes so just say instead of hammered away, they worked hard at, is it really that disastrous to see hammered away instead of worked hard at. It really shouldn't bug anybody that much. The article is pretty large and has a lot of pictures for most bands especially for one that was only around for a few years in the 60's so I really don't see this at all as a shame but one of the better pages on wikipedia. Patman2648
[edit] Did not?
The first paragraph says they "did not eventually evolve into Led Zeppelin."
I was under the impression that they had, but I don't know. It's somewhat of an intangible thing, so it would be nice if someone who knows them better could clarify. A cursory Google examination usually shows that Led Zeppelin came from the remnants of the Yardbirds.
--RandomPrecision 07:04, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Now that I read it, nevermind, I'm just going to change that. They had Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones, and a later section specifically says they did become Led Zeppelin. RandomPrecision 07:21, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
from dq: There is a line in the opening paragraph saying: "a crucial link between British R&B and psychedelia (along with the Byrds);"
This should be removed. As a professional musician from that era, I guarantee: a) the Byrds had nothing to do with "linking" anything to British R&B; b) the Byrds have nothing in common musically via genre or style with the Yardbirds. Byrds were an American 12-string folk-rock band with vocal harmonies; Yardbirds were hard, blues-based British rock band. No comparison and nothing in common. Humbly submit that the reference to Byrds in this article be removed. Leaving it up to the editors. Apologies to the author if I have misinterpreted.
- I agree. Reference to the Byrds removed. --David Edgar 07:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article refers to the wrong Ben King
The listing of the current band members links to a Ben King born in 1938. The Yardbirds Ben King is in his early twenties. This is on their website, and I can confirm from their October 2006 performance at the 100 club. And by the way, he is one seriously good guitar player.
- Indeed, he's clearly a different person from Ben E. King. I changed the link to point to Ben King (guitarist). --David Edgar 11:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Really, really needs editing
The facts seem to be alright, but the article really seems to need some heavy NPOV editing. Seems to me that it reads more or less like a Yardbirds love poem. I'm gonna go ahead and have at it some time tomorrow.Robertbieber 00:40, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- Still seems not that great; have you worked on it yet? Thanks by the way for offering, the Yardbirds definitely deserve a better article already, and it's so close to being a good article (all the hard stuff like facts and pictures are pretty good). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.87.187.228 (talk) 07:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC).