Talk:Ti-Grace Atkinson

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Contents 1 Loose Notes 1.1 Her name 2 Leaving NOW 3 Daughters of Bilitis

[edit] Loose Notes

I don't know enough to start writing this, but here's a starting point for someone's research:

• I'm pretty sure that her birth name was Grace and that Ti-Grace was a play on "tigress".
  Copied below for separate comment w/o disrupting the signed contrib.--Jerzy•t 17:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
  
• Early prominent member of National Organization for Women, elected president of its New York chapter 1967; not sure if she's one of the 20-odd counted as a founder, and their site doesn't list their founders.
• Left NOW 1969 to become a founder of The Feminists, a relatively short-lived, very radical feminist group.
• By early 1971 she was specifically advocating political lesbianism.
• Has written several books, article should include a list of these. Amazon Odyssey (1974).

-- Jmabel | Talk 06:24, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Her name

_ _ I distinctly recall (not just "pretty sure") reading in Time magazine, before 1970, an article that more or less announced (i.e., my wording) "there's something new called feminism" and "one of its leaders is Ti-Grace Atkinson", that said Ti-Grace was what she was called, by her family or during childhood in general, and that it derived from "petit Grace". I don't recall if there was another Grace in her circle, nor whether "Ti-" (or was it "ti-" or " 'ti-"?) was a widely used Louisiana or New Orleans prefix (as [1] suggests in her context).
_ _ This is consistent with "tigress" reflecting her

liking the pun, and creating misunderstandings by mentioning it, or

intentionally misleading a reporter she disliked to embarrass them, or

becoming embarrassed about the unpowerful sound of "little Grace" and either lying about, or being selective in talking about, her name.

IMO we need more info before restoring a version of

She changed her name to Ti-Grace in reference to the name for a female tiger, a tigress.

to the article.
--Jerzy•t 17:48 & 18:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leaving NOW

I changed "defected" to "resigned in protest" because defected makes a value judgment. Also, Amazon Odyssey includes a press release she wrote about it, and she said she was resigning because she thought NOW was become too hierarchical. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.10.248.26 (talk • contribs) 2 Jan 2006.

• Good. And it would be even better if you would give the specific citation. - Jmabel | Talk 02:50, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
• _ _ Uh,

defect

to leave without consent or permission an allegiance which one had formerly espoused or acknowledged

does not carry the value judgement of "traitor" or "sellout", or it would not be used by anti-Communists in praising for someone for defecting from a Communist entity.

_ _ More to the point, "in protest" as opposed to "protested and resigned" is unsupported by the evidence cited: in encyclopedic contexts, "resigning in protest" does not occur when

leaving a group to put your energies into something else, and saying you've done so

but only when

protesting (making a splash to alert others to a problem) is the main purpose of your departure.

I'm substituting factual language based on the evidence so far; anyone who knows more about what occured can give us evidence of further details.

--Jerzy•t 17:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Daughters of Bilitis

I see that there is a request for citation on her being a member of the Daughters of Bilitis (a claim that someone, not me, added). I'm not sure about her being a member of the Daughters of Bilitis, but Queer Heritage - A Timeline - The Seventies, which seems well-researched, says that on January 3, 1971, "Ti-Grace Atkinson advocates political lesbianism -- a total and exclusive commitment to women that may or may not include sex -at a Daughters of Bilitis New York meeting." So she at least addressed them. - Jmabel | Talk 07:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)