Talk:Treaty of Paris (1898)

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Contents 1 provisions 2 recommendations 3 Vandalism 4 $20 million

[edit] provisions

What were the provisions of the Treaty of Paris of 1898? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 168.69.134.250 (talk • contribs).

[edit] recommendations

I highly recommend to remove the phrase "having been thought themselves free". It is defamatory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.69.171.168 (talk • contribs).

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defamatory: "tending to disgrace or lower public opinion of a person or to harm a person's reputation" The US invaded the Philippines, which wanted independence, set up concentration camps, and killed between 100,000 to 200,000 people. And you suggest that saying "having been thought themselves free" is defamatory? Defamatory against who? America?

Aguinaldo wanted independence, and the Filippinos overwhelmingly supported the resistance.[1]

This is a historically accurate comment. What is truly sad is how you seem to be whitewashing the invasion with your words.

Your early revision was: "The phrase does not only have bias but it is also highly insulting."

First, there is plenty of basis, see my comments above, and what is insulting is your jingoist zeal and ignorance of this period of history. Travb 09:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

See Wikipedia:vandalism —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.69.171.168 (talk • contribs).

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Please take note of vandalism 18/12/05

Travb (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) insult to Filipinos "having thought themselves free" 09:59, 18 December 2005 (UTC). Please see articles's history and discussion Treaty of Paris (1898).61.69.171.168

My response: This is NOT vandilism, I edited the sentence, and then he edited it back, and I gave up on the silly edit war, and let him have the sentence intact, anon needs to read the definition of vandilism better, because my edits are clearly NOT vandalism.

Anon, you obviously are sloppy in your reading:

First you exclaim that there was no basis in what I write, so I wrote a retort of this, showing clearly that the vast population supported the indepence movement and not America's invasion.

Then you clearly do not read the guidelines for for vandlism and post me, for the first time, as a "vandal".

Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress: When NOT to use this page: Edit wars - content disputes must go through the appropriate dispute resolution process"

Again, as I wrote in the edit, this is not worth my time to argue about one sentence with a juvenile jingoists. You can have your one sentence.Travb 10:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] $20 million

There is a debate on whether or not the Philippines was purchased from Spain for $20 million in 1898 (equivalent to 481,000,000 in 2005 currency). The facts are as follows: (1) The Spanish-American war ended with Spain giving up most of its territories in Asia and the Carribean Sea. (2) In the aftermath of the war before the treaty was held, the US being the victor, had conquered Guam, the Philippine islands, and the other territories. (3) since the US had already conquered the Philippine islands Spain had permitted the US use of the ports and of the city of Manila (except for the southern regions ie Visayas and Mindanao) (4) Since Spain had refused to give up the entire archipelago, the US had offered $20 million.

The payment was not intended to purchase land but acted as a gift offering. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.144.29.4 (talk • contribs).

Source it from a scholar, and include it in the article, if you wish. But it sounds like unproductive speculation to me. The bottom line is America got the territory from Spain.Travb 03:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

unproductive speculation? do your research, and you will find the right answers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.56.233.122 (talk • contribs).

Let me repeat myself: "Source it from a scholar" Also, please sign your posts with ~~~~. Travb 08:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)