Talk:Tsvi C. Nussbaum

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[edit] Read the 2nd link in External links

According to the under External Links (www.deathcamps.org/occupation/gunpoint.html):

"There are indeed two specific factors that weigh heavily against him being that boy.

"The first is that although he was arrested in Warsaw, he had never set foot in the ghetto. The second is the date he was arrested. Tsvi Nussbaum clearly remembers that he was arrested on 13 July 1943. This was nearly two months after the "Stroop Report" is thought to have been completed and sent to Himmler and Krüger.

"In the early 1930’s Nussbaum’s parents emigrated from Poland to Palestine, where Tsvi was born in 1935. When conflict broke out between the Jews and Arabs in Palestine, the Nussbaum family returned to Poland, settling in Sandomierz in 1939.

"By 1942 Tsvi Nussbaum’s parents had been murdered by the Nazis, and he was brought from Sandomiercz to live with an aunt and uncle, in hiding, in the Aryan section of Warsaw. They looked after him for six months, but were caught in a Gestapo trap. The Nussbaums joined hundreds of other desperate Jews at the Hotel Polski and were put on the Palestine list. On 13 July 1943, trucks came to take them away, not to Palestine, but to the KZ Bergen Belsen. At the concentration camp they were housed together in a special barrack, given better food and not forced to work.

"If the boy in the photo is Tsvi Nussbaum, then the picture would have to have been taken at the Hotel Polski, and not within the Warsaw Ghetto, where all of the photos from the "Stroop Report" are generally thought to have been taken.

"Dr. Lucjan Dobroszycki was quoted in a New York Times article, expressing doubts about whether Tsvi Nussbaum is the boy in the photo, for the reasons set out below:

"'The scene,' he noted, 'is on a street, not in the courtyard in which the Hotel Polski roundup took place. Some of the Jews are wearing armbands that they surely would have shed while in the Aryan quarter of Warsaw. The German soldiers would not have needed combat uniforms at the hotel. The heavy clothing worn by most of the Jews suggests that the photograph was taken in May – the date General Stroop put on the report – rather than July. Moreover every other photograph in the "Stroop Report" was taken in the Warsaw Ghetto.'"

So it is clearly not true that "no one but [me] is doubting that." — BRIAN0918 • 2006-09-29 11:35Z