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Astrological significance of “ Twelve Holy Days “ requires further discussions & logical interpretation. Its usage in electional astrology has to be explored & as the information provided by this paper may guide the readers to perform holy activities in the said days.

First of all the logic put up that “ the Sun commences its journey from South to North “ during the night between 24th & 25th December, is not corroborated with astronomical fact. For example : winter solstice in 2006 shall start on December, 22 at 00h 32m GMT.

Further the Gregorian calendar has been modified a number of times to rectify errors. Like last time in 1952, Friday, October 5, 1952 was counted as Friday, October 15, 1952. In Great Britain it was amended in September, 1952. If start of the said 12 Holy days is to coincide with winter solstice, we may have to change the dates every year accrodingly. Should we understand that for the 19 centuries the masses were following incorrect Holy days, or we are now doing the mistake since 1952.

Further logic given that on December 25, the earth is swept by powerful solstice radiations – also needs corroboration with astrological & astrological observations. It coincides with the shortest day in northern hemisphere, and longest in the southern hemisphere. It can not have the same effects on both the hemispheres. The importance of winter solstice day is also reckoned in Hindu astrology, though they also celebrate the same on the day the Sun enters sidereal Capricorn.

The Sun just ingresses tropical Capricorn sign on winter solstice time. It forms junctional point of two solstices, two signs, seasons etc. Such time is declared as one of the most prohibited time in astrology & especially electional astrology by Hindu / Vedic system of astrology. Accordngly, the auspicious electional activities are prohibited & only worshipping & donations etc. are prescribed during such junctional durations. For more details please refer to my blog on : "Astrological Junctional Points – Dreadful Periods in Electional Astrology" : Secrets of Vedic Electional Astrology - http://besttimeofelection.blogspot.com

Also the author may like to explain as to how reference to zodiacal sign Virgo has been referred to in connection with the journey of the Sun on December 25. The Sun has no connection with Virgo sign during the said period.

A serious discussion is felt necessary to guide masses, who may have right for logical explanations with reference to Holy book, astronomy as well astrology. The dates may have to be changed to coincide the requirements of the dictums, about which I express my ignorance. Perhaps we require to follow constellation system or transit of the Sun on specific degrees of the zodiac.

--shridharvk, May, 9, March 2006 (UTC)

Comments on the above:
The author, Corrine Heline, of the "Twelve Holy Days" was giving a extremely condensed statement of esoteric (inner significance) of the 12 Holy days following Christmas which itself follows the solstice by 3 days. The reference that “the Sun commences its journey from South to North“ is not intended to violate astronomical facts but instead refers to the historical fact that the Sun's turning to the North is not easily observed for about 3 days following the solstice.

The Julian Calendar was replaced by the Gregorian Calendar in 1582 not 1952.

The observation that the earth receives powerful solstice radiations is a "fact" of spiritual observation and likely is not subject to confirmation by material science at this time. The fact that the physical Sun has different effects upon opposing hemispheres at the solstices does not preclude spiritual currents being the same over the whole earth. In "Star Gates" by the same author, she states, "It is the astronomical and not the geophysical aspects of the seasons which are important in the Mysteries, whuch deal directly with archetypal forces."

I do not see the source reference to Virgo commented on above. However, at midnight on December 24th, the Sun is at the Nadar of the astrological chart and in northern latitudes the sign Virgo "stands" upon the eastern horizon and thus is the astrological parallel to the Christian statement that Christ is born of a virgin. Ancient lore had much to contribute to this symbolism, as the following quote shows.

"Amoung certain of the Arabian and Persian astronomers the three stars forming the sword belt of Orion were called the Magi who came to pay homage to the young Sun God. The author of Mankind--Their Origin and Destiny contributes the following additional information: "In Cancer, which had risen to the meridan at midnight, is the constellation of the Stable and of the Ass. The ancients callet it Praesepe Jovis. In the north the stars of the Bear are seen, called by the Arabians Martha and Mary, and also the coffin of Lazarus." .......fact that each religion is based upon the secret doctrines of its predecessor." (Above quote is from page LI of The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly Palmer Hall.)

Unfortunately, Corrine Heline has been dead for several years. More about Corinne Heline may be found using a google search. Her publications are for sale at http://www.rosicrucian.com/prices01.htm#cheline

Dewey Ross Duffel, duffel@blackfoot.net

[edit] Immaculate Conception?

On the night when he commences his northward journey the zodiacal sign virgo, the celestial virgin (the "Queen of Heaven"), stands upon the eastern horizon at midnight (thus he is "born of a virgin" without other intermediary, hence, "immaculately conceived.")

I'd just like to point out that the immaculate conception does not refer to Christ's virgin birth, but to the belief that Mary was conceived without the stain of Original Sin.

[edit] My 26 year meditation journey with the Twelve Holy Days of Christmas

Hello:

I am requesting a link to this page about the Twelve Holy Days of Christmas. I started my meditation practice in 1977 after I read Corinne Helines book. My book "Christmas Meditations on the Twelve Holy Days December 26-January 6" is a compilation of my 26 year meditation journey with the Twelve Holy Days. It has been a fulfilling and wonderful practice to continue celebrating the Spirit of Christmas after the whole world thinks it is over.

I have given Corinne Heline full acknowledgement in my book as the original source for my dedication to these days. I kind of took her idea and ran with it!

I have also illustrated my book and hope you will consider adding my link to this page.

www.merrybattles.com E Mail merry@merrybattles.com

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