Talk:Ukrainian grammar
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[edit] Inconsistency
Sonant Common Slavic ḷ and ḹ became ov, while word final *lǔ became v. For example, Common Slavic *vḹkǔ becomes vovk in Ukrainian BUT in the Proto-Slavic language article it states: existence of syllabic sonorants in Proto-Slavic is not generally accepted, they may have developed only in individual Slavic dialects (as many believe, no syllabic sonorants were in East Slavic dialects); many scholars postulate the group ъl, ьl, ъr, ьr instead of the syllabic sonorants l̥, ĺ̥, r̥, ŕ̥. -Iopq 12:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Consensus seems to be that there were no sonants. Hence, I have changed the section. Woollymammoth 21:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Transcription and Cyrillic
These statements are totally confusing:
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- Hard Vowels (a, y (from Common Slavic *y), o, and u / а, и (from Common Slavic *ы), о, and у)
- Soft Vowels (e, i and y (from Common Slavic *i) / е, і and и (from Common Slavic *и)
It took me quite a while and a lot of thinking before I realized that the same information was being expressed twice, once in Roman letters and once in Cyrillic. The letter-shape y represents different sounds in each alphabet, and Roman-letter "u" in italics u looks practically identical to Cyrillic "и" in italics и. If I had read ahead to the consonant section I would have gotten it quicker, but that shouldn't be necessary. You need to make it clear which are Roman letters and which are Cyrillic, and that the information is indicated twice.
Sorry for the confusion. Hope this is better (It is not ideal). Woollymammoth 23:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
