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[edit] Removed to talk.
Removed following portion. Valmiki is a prime example in the disproof of the caste system as a religious system, seeing as he was a low-caste in the caste system showing this to be social rather than religious. Valmiki is wrongly said to have been a forest brigand, till the day Narada enlightened him. This has been proven otherwise by a contemporary study carried out by the late Dr Julia Leslie of the University of London's School of Oriental and African Studies and is set out in her book Hinduism and the Case of Valmiki.
When Lord Rama asked Sita to leave his palace because the subjects of his kingdom suspected her purity during her abduction by Ravana of Lanka (present day Sri Lanka), she obeyed the wish of Lord Rama and the people and was granted sanctuary by Lord Valmiki at his ashram, which is located in Amritsar and is currently known as Ram Tirath. It is here that her children Lava and Kusha were born. Rohitbd 15:02, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Legend of Ma-Ra-Ma-Ra...
Removed the portion referring to Valmiki being unable to pronounce "Rama".
The legend that Narada asked Valmiki to chant Ma-Ra-Ma-Ra... which turns out to be the same as chanting Ra-Ma-Ra-Ma... (i.e., Rama's name) is incorrect, as this is applicable only when written (and perhaps only in English), since the name "Raam" (the 'aa' is phonetically the sound of 'a' in the word 'ah') is written as "Rama" in English. This is an artefact of trying to write Indic words in English. In Sanskrit and most Indian languages, the true pronounciation (phonetic) of "Rama" is Raam or Raama (the 'aa' is phonetically the sound of 'a' in the English word 'ah') - the last 'a' (which occurs after 'm') is not uttered. So, saying Raa-Ma-Raa-Ma (which is correct if the 'a' in 'Ma' is not uttered) is neither compatible with Ma-Ra-Ma-Ra..., nor with Maa-Ra-Maa-Ra..., nor with Maa-Raa-Maa-Raa.... Additionally the legend holds true only in Hindi and Marathi where Maraa indeed means dead (in Hindi) and die (in Marathi), so Ma-Raa-Ma-Raa... is compatible with Raa-Ma-Raa-Ma Rohitbd 09:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] When was Ramayan written by Valmiki
Ramayan was written at the time of Ram in Tretayuga. He taught the lessons of Ramayan to luv and kush also. So how that Ramayan reached to us when it was written at that time?
[edit] Clean-up article
The article needs a large overhaul. For example, it constantly refers to the "Valmikis" which I'm guessing is a religious group, however they are not introduced anywhere in the article, but rather are just constantly referred to. Secondly, there is a lot of overlapping information regarding the Ramayan. Please keep in mind that a summary is not required - The Ramayana has it's own page. Finally, please refrain from using the name "Bhagavan/Bhagawan Valmiki" as it can be considered POV. Chopper Dave 01:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I would like to know, what exactly is a POV? Valmikis are a group of devotees that follow the teachings of Bhagwan Valmiki. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (User talk:talk • contribs) 16:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC).
- POV means "Point of View". Eg If I wrote "Jesus is God", then this called "POV", as it's would be from my POV. Wikipedia doesn't allow POV articles. All articles must be written with a neutral tone.
- In regards to Valmikis, great, however the article doesn't note this. Also, what is the difference between Valmikis and Balmikis? Chopper Dave 21:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Valmiki/Balmiki
Balmiki is often the preferred way of spelling Valmiki by people from the state of Punjab in India.
Valmikis/Balmikis is the name given to devotees that follow the teachings of Bhagwan Valmiki as portrayed in the Yogavasistha and the Ramayana. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.7.144.65 (talk) 21:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC).
