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Contents 1 Thinking 2 Villian progress 3 About this page 4 About Nightmare 5 Revisons 6 Bababa-ba Ba-baba 7 Enemy thought 8 Bobobo's "Ancestors"

[edit] Thinking

Just thinking: when I started this list of villains, I knew I was leaving out potential minor characters and such from the list. (those who aren't evil...or in some cases, good...they're either just weird or there). With someone adding "Kappa"/"Raincoat Man" to the list, I'm starting to think of changing the list to something more generic like "Minor Characters and Villains of Bo-bobo". Is this a good idea...and can someone change the top accordingly?

Hrmmm... I have "Hajike rowairu" and I'm seeing 3 villains not mentioned here...

[edit] Villian progress

The villians get a lot more developed & creative as the show gets longer.The villians from 100 years ago I'm waiting to see.

-RunningWildGadget

[edit] About this page

• Can someone break up this page. Someone break up each saga into articles. Kid Sonic
  • I could actually see the saga section split into mini articles, but I rather the villain section remain as is: just about the villains. Maybe remove the Shinsetsu section (since a lot of what's there isn't true...or at least put it on another "Shinsetsu villains" page), but I think that this could be adjusted with the saga section. -StrangerAtaru 02:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
  • You could make a separate section for the Chrome Dome Big Four + Giga, Czar Baldy Bald III & IV, and Hydrate. Jelly Jiggler and Dengakuman got their own articles and Suzu is an ally. Kid Sonic

[edit] About Nightmare

I just had a thought, is Nightmare an argonaut? He seems to look like one with all that armor. Kid Sonic

• No, Nightmare is just...Nightmare: a freaky guy in armor. Most Bo-bobo villains are just plain random. -StrangerAtaru 02:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revisons

Sorry for the dissapointment, but a certain member got rid of the links to the pics. If you still would to see them, go here: Kid Sonic

• Hate to break the news, but we were hotlinking the pics from another website. Personally, if you want to use them so badly, just upload them to Wiki and put them near the right article. But personally, if we are to start adding the pics, we really should try to avoid every single character and maybe put up just certain ones, like the bosses of certain parts (Gunkan, OVER, Halekulani, Giga), crucial enemies who appear later (Despair/Sad Sack, Hanpen) or group shots that get several out of the way at once (like the Ultimate Five Assasins who work for OVER..though I hate the intro pic they use for that shot of Mesopotamia). -StrangerAtaru 01:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

• Maybe we should make a separate article(s) for the most important villains. But I think the pics should be formated to look like this page to save space from side thumbnails. Kid Sonic

• Want to probably make them smaller then, but I guess I put up the three I did (OVER, Giga, Hanpen) as an example for what we could do. I agree we maybe should use seperate articles for some of the most important of these characters (Gunkan/Battleship, Rice, OVER, Halekulani, Giga, Hanpen, Baldy-Bald the Third, maybe Hydrate, Be-bebe, Bi-bibi and Shigeki X), even if there isn't too much for them..but I've seen some characters from some series with extremely little info get Wiki articles. -StrangerAtaru 14:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Another interesting thought: if we put OVER and Torpedo Girl together, we could get one article out of it :p -StrangerAtaru 14:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Ok, let's do it. Kid Sonic
    • Anyway, here are some more pics you can upload:

Katsu (C Block)

Wall Man

Mary Go-Round

Doll Man

Captain Battleship's Special Forces

Radioman

Shou Mei

Elite Chef Units

Teacup

Chuunosuke

Gump

Also, I think we should make separate articles for the villains based on each saga or alleagence. Kid Sonic

• • • • Again: For the moment I don't think most of these villains even matter enough for a pic. In Bo-bobo, they move so quickly from one villain to another that most of them really have little or no affect to the overall pacing of the story. For the moment, here's who I think should get a picture (outside the ones I already put up):

1. Crucial Block Leaders (Geha the Gale and Robo Block may work here, maybe also Hagen and Maitel since they're block leaders)

2. The remains of the "Baldy-Bald Big Four" (I really don't like the pics of Gunkan, Purupu or Halekulani we got on that Spanish page...)

3. Characters who do return in one form or another (Despair/Unknown Sad Sack, Kancho, J, maybe Combat Blues or the "Associate Hair Hunters")

4. Groups we could pair together into one shot (This I'm thinking like the "Ultimate Five Assassins" or the Prison Murder Brothers)

5. Any key crucial villains post-end of series (Baldy-Bald the Third, Hydrate, Be-bebe, Bi-bibi, Shigeki X...if someone could scan in that shot introducing all the Reverse Maruhage villains (minus Halon Oni, who is defeated by that point), that may work too)

-StrangerAtaru 19:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

• • • • Well we can make articles of the division and then list the villains that are part of that division or work for the leader of that division. For example, we can first make a List of Main Villains in Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo article, mentioning Czar Baldy Bald IV, Captain Battleship, Kittypoo, Over, Halekulani, Giga, Czar Baldy Bald III, Hydrate(or make a Reverse Maruhage Empire for him and his Heavenly Kings), and Shigeki X. Then we can list an article of each division under the rulers of that division. For example, under Battleship, we can make a page listing Ochazuke Alien, Wall Man, Suzu, Doll Man, Special Forces, Loincloth Lloyd, Calendar, June 7th, Tough-Looking Guy, and Death Mask. Sure their pictures may not matter right in this exact article alone, but they will if the Pomade Ring(or any other division) has their own space for more importance. Kid Sonic
        • I like the organization idea but somehow we need to convince the Wiki heads there's a need for it. Somehow here's how I organize the whole idea in my head:

1. Villains in Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo (this would mostly be for the main Hair Hunt groups, from the beginning of the series to about when its all about teams and such. This would pretty much be every villain from the beginning to the end of the Tennosuke arc (outside the Ochazuke Alien and Wall Man, since they work for Gunkan/Battleship), then pick it up with the "Evil Blood Mansion" stuff, Z-Block, Hajike Block and other assorted Hair Hunters later like Nenchaku and Yami Yasha/Sambaman...heck, we could just call this the "Maruhage Empire villains" section. May also include Kitty Poo here too since...well, he never lasted that long.

2. Gunkan/Pomade Ring villains

3. OVER/Torpedo Girl/Ultimate Five Assassins

4. Halekulani/Hallelujah Land

5. Giga/Cyber City

6. Tsurulina the Third (he deserves his own section due to being both the Former Maruhage leader..and the Neo Maruhage leader)

7. Former Maruhage

8. Hydrate/Reverse Maruhage

9. Hair Kingdom (mostly Bi-bibi and his minions, but we could also have Bu-bubu...and even Be-bebe here...then again, no clue where to put Be-bebe, with the Hair Kingdom or with Reverse Maruhage)

Now all I need to do is get off my lazy butt and do it. -StrangerAtaru 23:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

• • • • • Good, but also include:

1. Main Villain Section(Leaders, Chrome Dome Big Four(For Kittypoo's sake), Rice(by himself), mention Jelly Jiggler and Dengakuman, but put links to their articles).

2. Gunkan/Pomade Ring villains (and mention Ochazuke Alien, and Doll Man)

3. OVER/Torpedo Girl/Ultimate Five Assassins( also mention Puckered Lips and Gump)

4. Halekulani/Hallelujah Land (Kane-Maru and Nightmare too)

5. Giga/Cyber City (The Water Cops as well)

6. Tsurulina the Third (he deserves his own section due to being both the Former Maruhage leader..and the Neo Maruhage leader)(fill me in on how possible)

7. Former Maruhage(does that mean villains like Nihiru, Rose-Lily Kikunojo, Rem, Hanpen, etc.?)

8. Hydrate/Reverse Maruhage

9. Hair Kingdom (mostly Bi-bibi and his minions, but we could also have Bu-bubu...and even Be-bebe here...then again, no clue where to put Be-bebe, with the Hair Kingdom or with Reverse Maruhage.

10. Everyone in Wiggin Block and the wigginist(except Don Patch the Wiggin Gang)

11. Z Block (mention and link Dengakuman)

12. A Block (Mary Go-Round, Wonk, Teruno, Katsu, Spikey, and mention and link Jelly Jiggler).

13. Everyone else(Intro/C Block/Iquana Town/House of Blood/Playoffs)

• • • • • Here's my reasoning behind my idea

1. I want to keep all Hair Hunters not tied to one of the big arcs together. This includes the intro, C-Block, A-Block, House of Blood, Z-Block, Wiggin Block and those who appear in the Playoff arc like Nenchaku and Yami Yasha. The only semi-major in this section is Kitty Poo, but only because he's rather minor in the whole scheme of things.

2. When I mention arcs, I include all villains. Halekulani's section includes Kanemaru and Nightmare (thus "Hallelujah Land" not "Hell Killers"), OVER's would also include Puckered Lips and Gump, the Former Maruhage would include the minions prior to Kikunojo appearing, etc.

3. Not sure if there's enough on Rice to do a full section. I just put Tsurulina the Third down because he has a lot going on and because he's a very crucial villain. He's the mastermind of the Former Maruhage with backstory, he reappears in the Hair Kingdom to "finish something", then is the mastermind of the Neo Maruhage. He is more than deserving a full section.

That should clear things up. -StrangerAtaru 00:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

• • • • • I understand all of that, but Kittypoo is one of the Big Four. You should include him in the mix, even if he is minor. Kid Sonic
        • I don't even know what to qualify Kitty Poo as though. Gunkan, OVER and Halekulani all have massive arcs, attacks and stories connected to them while Kitty Poo...gets knocked around by Don Patch, then thrown on the Clock Sacrifice board to raise Hydrate's castle. Compared to the other three, I don't consider him doing enough to put as part of a real section. -StrangerAtaru 14:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
        • Well let me give you a head start so you can see what I mean. What should I call the section for major villains?
        • Lets just call it Main Villains of Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo...though if we take that route, then maybe it should be the following: Tsurulina the Fourth, Gunkan (unless he gets his own section), Kitty Poo, possibly OVER (though I rather go down the route of a dual character page for him and Torpedo Girl), Halekulani, Giga, Tsurulina the Third (though I still say he gets his own) and possibly Hydrate...want to keep Hair Kingdom villains away since Bibibi-bi Bi-bibi and Shigeki X sort of stand on their own unless with other Hair Kingdom generals.-StrangerAtaru 22:51, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
        • Quick update: currently working on a page for OVER/Torpedo Girl, so we don't really need to add them to whatever we do with this villain page.-StrangerAtaru 00:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

We could even make the character section like this one, but I need to know is Jelly Jiggler is a main character. We can group the villains by divisions as they group people by villages. And I think you should give Over/Torpedo Girl their own article. --Kid Sonic 04:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

• Saw something similar for Bleach, but the biggest problem with Bo-bobo is figuring out the difference between a crucial character and a throwaway gag character. Many characters are there for just one gag and that's it, having no implications on anything in the story. (one of the few that somehow defies this is this weird guy who shows up during the Gasser/Wall Man fight who turns out later to be a Hair Kingdom general) Meanwhile, many other shonens even get a chapter or two for each of their characters. If we go with a "master list", I rather just stick with the mostly-important characters. -StrangerAtaru 14:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
• Well anyone that doesn't

Make a FULL appearance in at least one episode (for example: Calendar, Boss Bob, Lemon Fizz, Chocolate Munchie, MAX Kyokawa, Nightmare, Garbel, T-500, Pana, Sonic appearance through most of the episode).

Participate in the playoffs

Work for a major villain

Re-appear in any episode(even after their last ep. apearance)

Is too minor to be in the character list. Pretty much, the best I can think off is Ya-ya, Grin & Bareit, I'm Sorry Masked Man, Thread Man & Paper Man. Well I all ready started on the page. You can edit it for any changes. --Kid Sonic 02:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC) Was thinking some of the stupid Wiggins from ep. 3 like the Dynamite Brothers may fit here. Not sure on the pig or the bears since they're more running gags early on. -StrangerAtaru 03:24, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Well Before we can get this project under way, we have to worry about:

Over/Torpedo Girl's article

The Main Villains section

The layout for the divion articles, for example, Holy Guacamole Land:

Background info

Areas in that place

Halekulani(Leader Info)

A Few Good Thugs

His two assassins

• I finally made Over/Torpedo Girl's section. Made I need you the help me with Czar Baldy Bald III. --Kid Sonic 23:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
  • This page is the one I created. If it is sufficient, then we can probably make some changes (Wikify some things) and just use this. But if you have a page you think is better, show me. -StrangerAtaru 16:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
    • I can do CzarBaldyBald III If you want, And I can get a good Halekulani picture. -RunningWildGadget 16:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Great!, but I already made one, but maybe we can merge ours (the Over & Torpedo Girl) article. --Kid Sonic 22:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
• Let's start spliting this article.

Maruhage Empire villains

Pomade Ring villains

Over (can't think of a name)

Holy Guacamole Land villains

Cyber City villains

Former Maruhage Empire villains

Reverse Maruhage Empire villains

Hair Kingdom villains

Villains of Shinsetsu Bobob-bo Bo-bobo

--Kid Sonic 13:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

• • What about "Minions of OVER"? And while we're at it, maybe instead of doing it by villains, why don't we just combine this and arcs? That way we won't have two giant articles but several smaller ones. (BTW: debating on doing a full article on Be-bebe or Bi-bibi) -StrangerAtaru 15:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
• How about Over Saga villains(or something like that). And I think Bebebe and Bibibi should just stay in the Hair Kingdom. It would also be a bad ideas to merge the section with the arcs. Maybe we could name the sections by the Places like Pomade Ring, Cyber City, etc. or maybe we should look at some of the Naruto pages like this one. --Kid Sonic 21:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
• I need you to make an article for Czar Baldy Bald the III, help me with the Hair Kingdom Villains article, and look at this section. --Kid Sonic 13:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bababa-ba Ba-baba

Uh... Is it possible King Nose Hair is Ba-baba? there's 3 allusions to the fact:

• The title of the 3rd episode is "Bababa-ba Ba-baba! The Honorable King Nose Hair" which could mean "Bababa-ba Ba-baba: The Honorable Blah, Blah, Blah."
• Ba-baba is the eldest of the 5 brothers and The HKNH is way over 1,000 years old.
• Supposedly, Ba-baba has never been featured/noticed on Bo^7, so, if nobody pointed him out, Ba^7 could be anyone!

BUT, that's just my opinion. Im a bell(Don't ask) 23:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Enemy thought

• Are villains like Line-Drawing Guy and N & N really enemies!? --Kid Sonic 00:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
  • It was the only page I put them at the time. Line-Drawing Guy was semi-antagonistic, but N&Ns is one of the few allies they had at Hajike block...wish someone told me why they put him on this list. -StrangerAtaru 01:11, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bobobo's "Ancestors"

If it possible that Bobobo's assumed ancestors from ep. 54 are Bababa, Bebebe, and Bibibi (excluding the mouse character)? --Kid Sonic 03:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• No. Ba-Bi-Bu-Be-Bo are all siblings and did not exist hundreds of years ago. -StrangerAtaru 13:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• I know that, I mean the three characters shown in Bobobo's assumption. --Kid Sonic 16:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Oh, the humans? No...those were just Bo-bobo acting silly. If you want, compare the pic of the "Hair Kingdom" people to the Be-bebe pics on the covers of vol. 17 and 18. Bi-bibi hasn't shown up on any covers...heck, Ba-baba hasn't even physically appeared. -StrangerAtaru 17:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Some proof:

-http://books.shueisha.co.jp/search/book_image/4-08-873804-7.jpg (Vol. 17: Be-bebe is between LOVE and Byakko)

-http://books.shueisha.co.jp/search/book_image/4-08-873842-X.jpg (Vol. 18: Be-bebe is on the right side)

This reminds me: I need to add vol. covers to the manga section. -StrangerAtaru 17:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• Alright, so the story checks out for Bebebe, but what about Bababa and Bibibi?. Could 2/3 of the Hair Kingdom "ancestors" be any of them? And who or what is that flying saucer character in the middle of the second link? --Kid Sonic 02:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)