Talk:Visa (document)

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what is the full form of VISA

Contents 1 External Link advertising? 2 Name 3 Which Visas can you work with? 4 Visa prolongation 5 Prolonging of tourist visa 6 Visa-free entry stamps 7 External Links

[edit] External Link advertising?

It appears that the link to myrussianfiance.com is in essence advertising, as it does not contribute signifigant useful knowledge. I would suggest that this link be removed. --Heh3d 6 July 2005 23:17 (UTC)

[edit] Name

Shouldn't this article be moved to Visa, and Visa be moved to Visa (disambiguation)?

The Visa credit card is a fairly major use of the name too... Jpatokal 04:56, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Kuwait does issue tourist visas, to citizens of certain countries, on arrival at Kuwait International Airport. Benblaney

[edit] Which Visas can you work with?

Is it only when you have a tourist visa that you are forbidden to work? Can you work with an immigrant's visa? Through what Visas are you allowed to own property and/or live in property in the foreign country?

Thanks, Sogni

That depends on the country, obviously, as different countries have different visa laws. In the US, anyone can own property, but to live and work in the US one needs to have both a visa that permits work (A,E,F,G,H,I,J,L,O,P,Q,R or any resident visa) AND a work permit. In Colombia, you can live indefinitely with a "pensioner's visa" if you have non-work income of $1500USD/mo or more. The most common work visas in the US are the E, H, and L. Hwonder talk contribs 02:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Visa prolongation

Agree we need a section but is needs to be better written then that suggested. Text below for when I have time to look at this.

[edit] Prolonging of tourist visa

Among long staying tourists (de facto expatriates) do a Visa Run just before the visa expires. Reasons for Visa Runs include no issuing of other visa types to this persons or no possibility for a prolonged visa. A Visa Run is simply done by departing the country (mostly by bus) and return after a very short time (hours or days) to the same country to get another two or three months visa as a tourist. This is common especially in Southeast Asia (Thailand-Malaysia-Thailand being famous for that).

Spartaz 00:08, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Visa-free entry stamps

Aren't those stamps in the photos from Thailand and Sri Lanka just entry stamps for visa-free travel and not actual visas? FlyerBoy

Yes, I have removed them to the talk page in case anyone can do anything with the image or cares to upload sonme better examples of visas as stamps. --Spartaz 20:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

...where's the article concerning entry stamps for visa-free travel? - I think, this pic should be implemented again but with another caption, OK Scriberius 01:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

I have removed some country specific external links becausw I think the links on this article should cover more then one country.--Spartaz 07:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I have been very pleased with the site I have added to the external links section, http://www.visahq.com is a reliable source for information on visas and US passports. I have used their site to plan a few of my trips and haven't been disappointed yet. --Kbondar 18:54, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Kbondar. The problem with that link is that a) its a commerical site so linking it could appear advertising and b) It doesn't really add much to the other links that are both comprehensive and much less commercial. I have reverted you but I'd be happy to discuss further. --Spartaz 19:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation, however after reviewing one of the links that is already posted in the article, I found the www.projectvisa.com site very disorganized and poorly built. Quoting directly from the site: "Pretty much all countries require a visa, except nationals from Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Democratic Republic Sahraoui, Seychelles, Syrian Arab Republic, Tunisia and Yemen." Unclear language and poor use of grammar, its just not a site I would trust to tell me whether I will lose $5,000+ in tickets when I get stuck on a border of a country without a visa or not. Also, quoting the External Link policy of Wikipedia, under Links to avoid: "Links to sites with objectionable amounts of advertising." seeing how there is google ads and other ads on that site makes it fall in that category. It is unfortunate that http://www.visahq.com is removed, also both sites that are attached to the article are lacking specific visa requirements for each different citizen, while there is a commercial aspect to the site the general information I have described, even the application forms are free and accessible to the general public which meets the criteria of "Is it proper in the context of the article (useful, tasteful, informative, factual, etc.)?" also stated by the External Link policy of Wikipedia. Thank you, and I am trully sorry that you have made your decision as such. --Kbondar 19:39, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

A quick trawl through visaHQ suggests that a lot of the visa information is US specific - the entry on the UK for example just says that US citizens don't need a UK visa. True but somewhat excluding for the citizens of a hundred odd other countries that do require a UK visa. The layout is clearly designed to entice visitors to use the company to get a visa and as such a wikipedia entry will be free advertising for them. Project visa is reasonably well laid out - countries are grouped by region and you get a map to click on that has relatively comprehensive information (though, like all things, its a bit incomplete). There are far too many google ads for my taste but they are not company specific and the site will not be benefiting from free wikipedia advertising. Just so you know, its not my decision. We make decisions based on consensus and no doubt other editots who have this article watchlisted will drive by and offer their 0.02 of whatever their local currency of choice is. --Spartaz 20:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I would agree with Spartaz the visahq.com is a commercial site. I am also inclined to agree with Kbondar that projectvisa.com is not a great site. The remaining link seems sufficient, and remember, articles are just fine with no external links, so if there's something I'm missing about the remaining one, feel free to delete it too! -- Mwanner | Talk 20:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Cents eh? Anyway, I removed projectvisa as well per suggestion. Spartaz 00:00, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Am I the only one irked by a link to a site which is somewhat incomplete with information is removed but a link with information purely for United States citizens remains? I have to say visahq is almost useless for non-americans. Perhaps Wikipedia should be purely for Americans? Where do I get my green card to use wikipedia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.168.116.141 (talk • contribs) 03:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC).

What are you talking about? VisaHQ.com is the ONLY complete source for ALL nations around the world. Just open your eyes and select ANY nation from drop-down menu. Cheers...

IATA maintains a database from any country, to any country. Unfortunately, it is subscription only. Delta and Continental both make the information freely available on their websites here and here. I think that's about as good as we're going to get to still get the information and to keep it low on spam/commercial. Yes, both of these sites are commercial in nature, but they're not selling visa services. I've added only Continental's to the article because it offers more information and is easier to use. Hwonder talk contribs 07:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Does this link: http://www.metu.edu.tr/~e116443/visa.htm belong in the External Links section of the article? Its veracity aside, it seems to be more than a little biased...24.115.197.155 22:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

No - its been removed a million times already. I'll take it down. It also requires TK language support to access so its defn a no no. Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That same link keeps popping back up time and time again...can't you keep whoever it is off this page?

Only by protecting the page and that would prevent other anon editors contributing. I'll just keep an eye on it and remove it as I see it. Spartaz ^Humbug! 09:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)