Talk:Vixen (comics)
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[edit] Other African heroes section
- This is off-topic. This article is about Vixen. Wikipedia guidelines say to create a separate article and add a See also to this one. Otherwise, for consitency, you'd have to stick this section in every African comic-book character's entry. -- Tenebrae 13:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for removing the other Vixen references. --Basique 15:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] "model sheet" images
Model sheet images only occur in the Marvel Handbook, they are rotations, three separate images used to show three different views of a character's costume. They don't occur in Who's Who and they do not apply to a main page Marvel Universe image because model sheet images only occured on the second pages on the second version of the marvel Universe Handbook, they did not exist in the first version. So the criteria you used for reverting the image was wrong. Therefore i'd like you to put it back the way I had it. --Basique 22:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Many of the Who's Who images have been deleted, such as the pic of the original Batwoman (and it was not a model sheet either), and Darkstar from the Marvel Handbook. The consensus is that Who's Who and the Marvel Handbook are encylopedias and using their images violates fair use, as if we use their images for Wikipedia, then their is no reason to purchase the books. I didn't make the rule, so I don't feel I have the authority to return your pic. I have nothing against your pic of Vixen, it is incredible artwork, it just isn't fair use. NeoCoronis 03:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Then the people who did so interpreted what was written wrong and in that case we need a ruling on what this means.
it has been decided that images derived from "model sheet" images from the following sources:
* Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe * Who's Who in the DC Universe editions * the various trading card series released by the many comic book publishing companies
are not allowable on Wikipedia as their use would indeed infringe upon the original role of the image in question.
You'd have quite a few images to remove if we went by your interpretation, and you'd have to start with the huge amounts of pages that link here Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.. I think it's time the Wikiproject Comics community voted on exactlty what that list up above means otherwise you'll have to prune 3/4 of the Marvel pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Basique (talk • contribs).
- And don't think that doesn't make a lot of us flinch. However. The policy was written correctly and yes, it does mean we have a lot of work to do. Linking to the handbook is fine, but copying information whole-sale from it would not be. Plagarism=bad, after all. Think of it this way, we don't want to duplicate the exact work from another encyclopedia, including images. Some of us have been heavily re-doing pages with obvious copy-vio, but it's a work in progress. If you know of some pages, please come on over to WP:COMIC and let us know. We may have to add a whole lot more to the notice page, but so far it's been a one-at-a-time correction. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 15:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- In further detriment to any fair use claim to Who's Who images, you can't use images from a work that the article does not discuss. See counterexamples at Wikipedia:Fair use. Postdlf 16:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
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- I see, then i'll set about replacing my own images with alternates. I don't envy you having to replace those others. --Basique 16:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- I usually see Basique dealing with problem editors and taking care of problems; this is certainly a minor issue, and I am glad but not surprised to see how fast Basique has accepted that those images might not be appropriate. You're good dude, Basique. --Chris Griswold 17:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- I see, then i'll set about replacing my own images with alternates. I don't envy you having to replace those others. --Basique 16:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hey thanks Chris, I just finished three big builds in between pretending to be telecommuting, so i'm going to take a break for a while. --Basique 17:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
