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[edit] Vodafone in Europe
Vodafone necessarily operate in all the countries shown. In several of them it has a licensing arrangement with other independent operators. If it's not called Vodafone then it probably isn't a wholly owned part of Vodafone (although it's quite possible that Vodafone is a part owner - as it is with Verizon for example). This is certainly true for Swisscom and SFR for example. Mpntod 19:12, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
This is a pretty weak article. Yes, it should point out that Voda owns 44 percent of SFR (and wants the rest, having only failed to acquire it due to a quirk of French corporate law), 25 percent of Swisscom, and so on. The lists of operators don't tell us much. It also has partner arrangements with some networks that license the branding (such as Smartone-Vodafone and og Vodafone). The company would like a brand presence in the US but has an unhappy though lucrative arrangement with Verizon, tried to buy AT&T Wireless, and so on.
I might add some of this detail, if I have time. --ProhibitOnions 18:09, 2005 May 22 (UTC)
- The whole article needs to be rewritten. At the moment there is nothing on stategy or competitive position and the article doesn't make it clear what the key developments in Vodafone's history have been; Airtouch isn't even mentioned, and that deal was fundamental enough for Vodafone to change its name to Vodafone Airtouch for a while! I'm going to make a start by adding a finance section. Carina22 12:08, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Good work, and I'll add more history when I have time. I have removed the recent Controversies section, which someone added near the top of the article, and which is very POV. It was evidently written by a UK user with an axe to grind, as it mentions the likes of Oftel and Who Wants to be a Millionaire without any context. ProhibitOnions 13:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
You can either regard the controversies as POV or simple fact. I have checked the sources, it is fact. It makes no difference whether there is an axe to grind or not - if this is something Wiki readers should know, it should be included. What do you mean by context? This is the context within which the company operates. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context . I don't know what ProhibitOnions' connections with Vodafone are (if there are any), but you cannot use Wikipedia as another advertising stream. It is an encyclopedia. All is relevant. See entries on other companies which have committed misdemeanors, e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Andersen . 21:42, 18 October 2005 (GMT)
- It may not be POV if these are factual statements, but the current complaints section is overkill. Vodafone is a large company and it is expected to have issues with various authorities. If you cite the references for these complaints (e.g. newspaper stores, link to the Ofcom website etc) then the addition can remain in a smaller form - about three lines. --PhilipO 20:56, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Sadly two of these references are print only - so by your rules are not worthy of inclusion. It all sounds rather peremptory. I think Wikipedia can be a force for good - but it's certainly not worth my time reinstating other people's pro-corporate deletions the whole time, so I shall say goodbye.
Another victory for Vodafone.
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- I disagree. --PhilipO 21:00, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
21:12, 18 October 2005 (GMT)
- Citing a print source is fine. Wikipedia is a intended to be an encyclopedia, not a consumer complaints website or a corporate advertising medium. Complaints are accepted but they need to be cited and generally should be from an reptuable source. Joe Davis's community newspaper for example is unlikely to be a reputable source but something from the Guardian for example would be... Nil Einne 13:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] United States in Europe?
The current revision has the united states listed in the europe section (aswell as the americas). I havent fixed this incase it was intended, but it seems like it should be removed to me? PaulLakin 23:54, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proportional customers
Can someone please explain "proportional" Vodafone customers in Paragraph 2, and how they relate to the numbers posted? In this mix of numbers, the author links to a British site that states simply there's a 179 million subscriber base. Why not say straight up how many subscribers there are, like the China Mobile wiki entry, which says 200 million?
I am presuming that it is on the basis of holding in the network operator whose subscriber numbers are listed. Can someone identify that?
Venkatesh 11.52 AM IST (+0530 GMT)
Correct me if I'm wrong but the article reads proportional customers as of 26th January "2007", but the reference links to an article last updated January 2006. So surely this information is a year out of date?
212.219.27.120 14:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What about 50%
The article suggests if it owns more then 50% it's a subsidiary, less then 50% it's an affliate, 0% a partner. But what about 50% (joint owner-ship or 50% with small partners)? I suspect it's an affliate but then again, Vodacom is evidently going to be branded Vodafone even though it's a joint ownership... Nil Einne 13:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- We'll see about that (note that Vodafone does not own a majority of Vodafone Fiji), but AFAIK Voda has already made overtures to Telkom to buy a controlling stake. I think Vodafone is less averse to significant minority shareholders in developing countries, possibly for political reasons.
- I'm also curious whether Vodafone Japan will retain the Vodafone name (a la Vodafone Sweden) once it no longer belongs to Vodafone; becoming a franchise (another category, though not one that Voda currently recognizes). ProhibitOnions 16:58, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vodafone Logo Rollout
I can see there is a lot of movement here to re-write the article. Would you consider adding a section on the progress of rolling out the new 3D logo (and 3G services)? - just a suggestion. The only details of those are in the history section which can be confusing.
I have removed the suggestion that the name is VOice DAta FONE. Whe nit launche dit was an analogue only cell phone firm. There was no mobile data and I very much doubt management envisioned it.
- Firstly, please remember to sign your comments using 4 tildes (~). Secondly looking at Vodafone's offical website, specifically http://www.vodafone.com/article/0,3029,CATEGORY_ID%253D30102%2526LANGUAGE_ID%253D0%2526CONTENT_ID%253D231491,00.html? it states that in 1982 "Vodafone is chosen as the name of the network, to reflect the provision of voice and data services over mobile phones." Data was added in 1987 with AA Roadwatch and Financial Times CityLine. Vodafone launched a digital GSM service in 1991. Therefore they had data in the analogue-only era and so it is likely the name does indeed stand for VOice DAta FONE. I'm putting it back in the article, citing the above source. Alexj2002 11:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Without revealing to much info - i worked for Vodafone for many years- during induction we were told specifically where the name came from. and vo da fone is indeed correct.Ukbn2 23:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- That's right. When Voda started out it the "Voda" part was applied to Vodapager as well, which was obviously a data service. (Look at the company's annual reports prior to 1991, available at www.vodafone.com; the concern was styled Voda - Racal Telecom.) ProhibitOnions (T) 10:28, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chris Gent
To the person who removed the reference to Gent, please read Chris Gent. Shouldn't this resource be consistent in itself?! 86.7.208.240 23:51, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of CEOs
How about a section that lists the CEOs of Vodafone since incorporation?
Venkatesh 11.55 AM IST (+0530 GMT) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Venkatesh.sridhar (talk • contribs) 06:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] A suggestion for the Vodafone page
Okay, just something that I think could make it easier for people not familiar with Vodafone. Would it be okay if someone put in a section on the main services that Vodafone offers globally, using the UK as an example? -Daniel Blanchette 21:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] became 4th largest in india
Today Vodafone took over Hutch in a big deal; V bid 19 bn $ for hutch. Hutch was the 4th postion in india. Kittu 12:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
NB -- this deal has not yet been completed; anticipated early- to mid-April but not 100% in the bag.
