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[edit] Memorial Stones
193 or 199? Were 6 already installed before the construction re-started? Or is this inconsistancy highlighting an error in one of the two counts? JohnRuskin 01:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Measurements?
Is there anyone out there that can refer me to a link or provide accurate info that includes exact measurements of the Washington Monument? For instance, I have the overall height, width of base, width of shaft at top, but I cannot locate the dimensions of the pyramid on top (measures of pyramidion and capstone). Thanks, jh.
[edit] Half-finished photo?
Request: A photograph or engraving of the Washington Monument as it stood half-finished for all those years. Tempshill 18:29, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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- This one [1] credits the Library of Congress.
- This one [2] is more difficult to see but is hosted by the LoC.
- The National Park Service has a neat picture of a design sketch with the colonnade by Robert Mills [3].
- ---65.79.159.6 21:43, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
It would be great if someone could write about the renovation of the Monument (in the '90's?), especially if they could find a picture of it with the scaffolding on it. Also something about the increased security as time's gone on... Postdlf 4:28, 11 Jan 2003 (EST) my son needs measurements for hise project i cant find them anywhere HELP!!!! it is 555ft tall 55ft base but i want to know the 'surface area' now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[edit] Monolithic
I'm just going to cut "monolithic" out of the description, since it's big but it's not mono-lithic, okay? Wetman 00:13, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Here is how www.m-w.com defines monolithic:
Main Entry: mono·lith·ic Pronunciation: "mä-n&l-'i-thik Function: adjective 1 a : of, relating to, or resembling a monolith : HUGE, MASSIVE b (1) : formed from a single crystal <a monolithic silicon chip> (2) : produced in or on a monolithic chip <a monolithic circuit> 2 a : cast as a single piece <a monolithic concrete wall> b : formed or composed of material without joints or seams <a monolithic floor covering> <a monolithic furnace lining> c : consisting of or constituting a single unit 3 a : constituting a massive undifferentiated and often rigid whole <a monolithic society> b : exhibiting or characterized by often rigidly fixed uniformity <monolithic party unity>
The monument fits very comfortably within that definition since it is both massive or huge and it resembles a monolith even though, as you point out, it is not actually composed of only one part but the mere appearence is good enough to warrent the word.
- It looks like one stone only from a distance. -- Decumanus | Talk 01:37, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- Even when you are close enough to see the mortar, the building has a monolithic appearence in the way that word is commonly used. Notice that the first definition is the one that says of, relating to, or resembling a monolith : HUGE, MASSIVE meaning that it is used in that sense more often than any other --Qaz
- Applying monolithic could easily mislead, and it's not necessary to be misleading. -- Nunh-huh 01:38, 26 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- The article talks at length about the structure and composition of the monument so I do not agree that it is misleading. I said on your talk page though that I do not want to get into an edit war so I am not reinserting the term but I do think that the use of that word faithfully reproduces a persons experience of the edifice and leaving it out takes something from the explanation. --Qaz
[edit] Price of aluminium & zoning laws
I have several sources placing the price of both silver and aluminium at about $1 and ounce in 1884 and gold at around $20 an ounce. I've also looked up the actual zoning regs for DC, and they state that building heights are limited to no more and than 20 feet taller than the width of their street. There are also exceptions made for spires, towers, domes, minarets, pinnacles, etc. Both of these bad pieces of info were added by Jsonitsac. If anyone is really bored they might want to fact check his other article additions. --Pascal666 23:56, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Largest Freestanding Stone Structure
Does it merit mention that the monument is the largest freestanding stone structure in the world? [can anyone doublecheck that?]
- Depends upon your definition of largest. If you mean tallest, then yes, as can be seen at World's tallest structures. If you mean by volume, not even close. A number of pyramids have it beat. --Pascal666 01:43, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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- It is indeed the world's tallest free-standing stone structure. This from one of the monument's tour guides (I was there in August).--NPswimdude500 04:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A couple of things to look into
I do recall reading that the aluminum tip of the Washington Monument was valuable enough that it was protected by armed guards on its way to being placed on the monument.
Another note: there is a discrepancy between the number of steps listed in the article and the number of steps listed in the statistics section (893 vs. 896).
[edit] Washington Monument Jokes
I was occused for joke vandalism on this article, I came up with plan B. I want a separate article made; this one shall be Washington Monument in pop culture. It is a fact that my contributions for this article from the past exist in real life.
Some people tell me that the Washington Monument looks likes a penis making it a phallic symbol. I was also occused for making a redirect for the misspelled word for it (falix symbol). Will somebody consider this request? --TheSamurai 22:53, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- To be clear, I never called it "vandalism," I called it useless trivia, which it is. A more comprehensive article/section on the Washington Monument might be tolerable, but "The Washington monument looks like a penis" and a random factoid from a Beavis and Butt-head movie do not an article make. android↔talk 23:22, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Building Materials
The article states that it's made of marble, granite, and sandstone. Later, it says the exterior is marble and the interior is granite. Where did they use the sandstone? --JD492 01:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The sandstone is from Virginia, just like the cap rock. There is an inscription on the Peaks of Otter that state this. The bottom and top of the monument are from Washington's own state, so this would make the sandstone the base. PETN 11:40, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
The below extract paragraph from the article is in need of help. The stone is not "discolored" merely a different color. Likewise, more like one-quarter to one-third of the monument is one color, the remaining top part another. The color change is not due to the work stopage, it merely indicates where work had progressed to, when a new source of stone was used. Incidentally work had stopped. The monument could be the same color, stoppage or no, if the same quarry/stone source were used.
Quote as of August 14, 2006:
As one may see, there is a slight discoloration on the monument. The bottom half is a different color than the top half due to the stoppage of construction. When construction continued after the Civil War the builders were unable to find the same stone used earlier resulting in a slight discoloration of the monument.
--Yellowdesk 02:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Blodgett
The article states "just as Blodgett suggested" but no explanation is given anywhere else of who Blodgett is. This section at least was probably copied from somewhere else.
[edit] Image:US Navy Washington Monument 030926-F-2828D-390.jpg
I removed the image US Navy Washington Monument 030926-F-2828D-390.jpg from the Design section of this article because I found an actual design sketch to replace it.
It would be nice to incorporate the image I removed back into the article, but I just couldn't find a place for it as there are so many images already in the article. I felt it was more important to give an actual design sketch by the architect in the article somewhere. If someone can find a place to stick it, please do so. --ScottyBoy900Q∞ 19:40, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Annapolis Washington Monument
Can anyone find information of the supposed Washington Monument that is in Annapolis, Maryland. I have spent considerable time in Annapolis and have never heard of any monument to Washington there. I can't really find anything online either. --ScottyBoy900Q 03:09, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, and if I get a chance I will take a picture of it. I have not seen it but it is apparently a small monument. It is at the intersection of Routes 50 and 450. It documents the 3-mile-oak location where local Annapolitans road out to meet Washington as he road into town to resign his commission. --Noitall 06:02, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] New Picture
Is it just me, or was the top image that was here before better than this new one put in the article by Ruwan? It seems that in the other one you could see much more detail, and it wasnt as slanted looking. Any thoughts? --ScottyBoy900Q 04:55, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Ruwan's image is gone anyway, due to lack of sources. I liked the colors in Ruwan's image and how it framed the flags, though I like how Raul's image is cropped so that more of the image shows in the thumb. I might stop by there tomorrow (supposed to be nice and sunny) or next week and get more photos to upload. --Aude 13:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Okay. I stopped by this afternoon and got some new photos. I put one of them in the article, but don't mind if it's replaced by a different one (even if it's not mine). More of my photos are on commons, (some cropped to differents sizes). I also recategorized other Washington Monument images into there. --Aude 00:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
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- I just uploaded a number of photos from the 2006 Cherry Blossoms. Gallery -- These photos primarily include the Tidal Basin, Washington Monument, Jefferson Memorial, FDR Memorial, and National Mall. If you have any specific requests for images, just leave a message on my Talk page I should be able to get those by mid-June. Provide as much detail as you can for what you are looking for in the image. --Thisisbossi 04:38, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Deleted picture
FYI, The image to the right was deleted around April 12, 2006 without explanation. I have not invested enough time in this article to make a good judgement if it should be reinserted or not, but at least I thought it was noteworthy here. It was originally left justified, and sized at 225px. — Eoghanacht talk 13:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sarita?
Who is this Sarita? Is "Sarita rules the world" a cultural reference, or just a strange case of vandalism (this is the only article which contains the phrase). Could anyone who knows about it do something about it (and preferably write an article about it if it is a cultural reference)? 85.164.16.200 00:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fake obelisk.
I think this needle is hollow on the inside, with hidden steel grid structure to provide the skeleton. Only the outside applique is stonic, just like in case of Miss Liberty. The ancient egyptian monoliths in turn are truly single-crystal pieces of granite. 195.70.48.242 12:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
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- In hi-res photos you can see small windows (double holes) near the tip of the needle, which proves the monument is hollow on the inside. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.70.48.242 (talk) 12:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Regarding Pictures
Starting around about "Later History", there's a strip of pictures of the monument. Do we really need that many pictures? Unless maybe they add something to the article. But I don't see a point. --Cadby (talk) 19:20, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
