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Contents 1 Famous supporters 2 Question 3 Too much emphasis on the present 4 Honours 5 The "Baggies" and "Boing Boing" 6 Encyclopaedic? 7 First team in Russia 8 Moved list of managers

[edit] Famous supporters

I always thought the Lenny Henry was a Villa supporter. Does anyone have any support for this? Cutler 00:49, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Can someone British tell me what "Albion" refers to, as I know it is in a couple of football team names. Much obliged. Roadhockey 23:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

http://www.baggies.com/celebrities/ - John

Albion is an ancient mythical name for Great Britain and is well-explained in that article. I understand that West Brom's name comes from the nearby, but now defunct, factory the Albion Foundry. I have no idea about the other teams. Cutler 09:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Roadhockey 13:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too much emphasis on the present

I think we should resist the temptation to keep adding the latest news/speculation regarding Robson/Peace/the fans. That is not what an encyclopedia article is for. The sections regarding the last few seasons are too long and will need to be condensed. If people want to add things, there are some gaps in the history which need to be filled, not to mention many Albion player articles which could be created or added to. Jameboy 23:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Agreed Cutler 09:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I've added a comment to the 2006-Present section requesting this. Aabha (talk) 10:29, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Honours

The addition of runners-up 'honours' makes it look really ugly IMHO, much preferred the old formatting 86.128.180.142 19:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe runners-up honours are noteworthy, with the possible exception of the charity shield. I've improved it slightly by taking the bold off (old) and (new). This follows the format of the Man City article, which was a featured article. Now we just need to get the rest of the WBA article up to the same standard, which could take a while! Jameboy 15:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The "Baggies" and "Boing Boing"

I always thought the nickname derived from the fact that they were the first club to wear baggy shorts.

This is a popular assumption, but there is little evidence to support it. I've heard the theory about baggy trousers worn in foundries more than once. According to club historian Tony Matthews however (three or four years ago) the nickname arose because at one of the previous grounds (Stoney Lane?) the turnstile operators used to carry the takings along the touchline at some point in the match, in big leather bags or holdalls, and the cry used to go up "here come the bag men". This soon got corrupted to Baggies.Haydn01 15:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Where does the 'boing boing' chant originate from? Martyn Smith 21:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

No one really knows. It started around the time that Albion played in the old Third Division (1991/2 season). One of the more convincing theories is that it started in a public house during a conversation about Albion "bouncing back" to the higher divisions.Haydn01 15:45, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

According to WBA Unofficial it comes from the song Poing by Rotterdam Termination Source. Jameboy 21:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I always "understood" that the 'boing boing' chant related back to the club's foundation by spring workers, although I have no greater provenance for this than any of the other theories.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mbalmer (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Encyclopaedic?

Feel this article is too 'chatty' and not NPOV enough on the whole Martyn Smith 21:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

We also need a grown-up article History of West Bromwich Albion F.C. to help manage the content better. Cutler 19:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First team in Russia

"Albion were the first English team to play in Russia" - I was led to believe this was actually Arsenal, who played Dynamo Moscow in Russia on October 5, 1954. [1] When did Albion make their visit to Russia? Qwghlm 09:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Albion's Soviet tour was in the summer of 1957. They won two games and drew one; the ones they won were against Dynamo Tbilisi (Georgia, not Russia) and against CDKA, the Soviet Army side, in Moscow. The draw was against FC Zenit in Leningrad (now St. Petersburg), which was the first of the three. Albion were not the first English side to play in Russia, but they were the first British professional side to win a game there. They were the first to play in China. Haydn01 20:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up & correcting, cheers. Qwghlm 12:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moved list of managers

I've changed the section 'Managerial history' to 'Notable former managers', and moved the old list to its own article, List of West Bromwich Albion F.C. managers. The list was part of the clutter in this article which needs trimming. I'm sure there will be some disagreement as to what constitutes a 'notable' manager but I'm more than happy to debate it here if anyone disagrees with my initial shortlist. --Jameboy 22:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)