Talk:Western New England College
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[edit] Response to "Marketing Materials?" post
What facts are being ignored? Everything on the entry is undisputable fact. Please post on the discussion board any sort of other information you would like included.
[edit] School of Law merge
I agree and think the School of Law section should remain in the Western New England College entry due to its importance and uniqueness within the College.
[edit] Good work
It's too bad that they got deleted so fast. They are really iffy on allowing pics these days, so you have to be very explicit that "you" are the owner/creator of them. It's good though because it stops infringement. I'll get that message out to you later today.
I do respect you using your name because you are paid by the College to give their side. It was the ethical thing to do. But I have no formal connection to the College or any competitor, so it's different. There isn't the (disclosed) conflict of interest on my end. I was just a little concerned when deletions (rather than edits) were being made.
Also, what do you think of the Law School merger nomination? My feeling is that the LS section is so short already that it should stay on the main page and link over to the LS school (keep the status quo).
--Mimpvh 19:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] photo response
I knew since I would be updating this site, I didn't want to do it on the sly. I am in the process of getting some photos at the correct resolution for uploading. I uploaded some photos on the pages for the AHLC, Golden Bear Stadium, etc... but they were deleted quickly by wikipedia.
[edit] OK
Well, you did register with your real name (not exactly an expectation of anonymity), but OK. Fair's fair. How can I get it to you?
Also, is there a way to maybe get one or two campus photos up? I saw that the Golden Bear logo link was broken. Do you know the background on that or how we could get one up? Not the most important thing, but something to think about.
[edit] Lists response
I personally do not mind the length of the student orgs/sports. However, if there is a way to make it two columns, for say the list of men's and women's sports, I would not be opposed. Also, since you appear to know who I am, I am in interested in your identity.
[edit] Lists
Maybe BPayne4001 (a user I may disagree with sometimes but I admire for his/her persistance/interest in "getting it right") has some thoughts on this. The lists of sports and student organizations are very long and cumbersome. Can we agree on a more visually appealing (and compact) way to organize these? Is a two-columned table appropriate? What about seperate pages for these topics?
Mimpvh 19:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] eopinions
The citation from eopinions.com is not valid. Anyone can post on that cite and frankly is it unknown whether those post come from actual students or alumni whether or not the poster claims to be those people. Plus, the information included in the top section is also included in the Campus and Facilities section. It does not need to be included twice.
[edit] Agreed
Certainly we should keep the page factual, but Wikipedia is about full disclosure. It is not "un-factual" to repeat the statements of the college president and the vice-president for academic affairs (the provost). When the chief executive of an organization makes a statement, is that "speculation"? There is no innuendo. Every statement is cited. It is true that WNEC is not currently a university (and may never be, as the article says). But the fact that two top WNEC officials granted student media two interviews (and did nothing to correct the stories if they had a problem with them) seems to indicate that it is a real possibility. I made clear that no final decision has been made. That is simply reporting the facts as we know them. I've added a title to your Talk comment, so it doesn't look like mine runs into yours.
Remember, even if the inclusion of some information runs counter to our desires, we have to keep it there. More information (if valid) is preferable to less. To say otherwise is patronizing to the reader, effectively saying that we need to keep perfectly good info from them lest they get confused. An encyclopedia article, after all, is merely the culled facts surrounding a particular topic. It should have no spin, agenda, or aim (such as enhancing or harming the stature of the subject) beyond comprehensively noting what is known.
[edit] I Edit for Facts
I edit this page in an attempt to keep it factual. I appreciate the reorganization of the entry. I believe speculation and innuendo on possible changes to the College should be kept to a minimum as they are not representative of the current status of the College.
[edit] Problem User
Bpayne4001 has repeatedly deleted factual, relevant content (such as the possibility of WNEC becoming a university) that is documented by student and outside media. Although he or she has made some important contributions, this kind of chronic deleting behavior is very disruptive of the Wikipedia community. This individual seems to be trying to create an image of WNEC that is very narrow. It should also be noted that there is a Brendan Payne who is employed as a proofreader at the WNEC Office of Marketing and External Affairs. I don't know if they are one in the same.
[edit] Marketing Materials?
This article continues to read more like Western New England marketing materials. Although it has improved, it still ignores lots of important facts, especially those that could be interpreted as not positive. WNEC is not a perfect place, but any reader could not assume otherwise. Is WNEC more like "Williams" or "Amherst"? Come on! WNEC is what it is, and should be described as such - nothing more, nothing less.
I appreciate those who work on this article - hopefully they do so in order to make it a better, more factual article, and nothing more.
[edit] Cut and Paste
This article looks like WNEC marketing just copied and pasted a bunch of lists off the website.
