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[edit] Rewrite

Although it could certainly be rewritten, I think that the original version of this page which accurately described how this episode was formatted for viewing by the network executives vs. how it was formatted for television airing is certainly a "valuable" piece of Trek lore and should not have been edited out.

It really wasn't all that confusing. And no, I'm not the poster who posted it, so other than for the sake of enjoying interesting trivia, I have no dog in this fight. Sir Rhosis 21:49, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The primary reason was because there was far too much detail into a different episode in the lead of this article; not only was it potentially confusing in that a casual reader could think WNMHGB was the ep split into The Menagerie, but anything beyond the barest details required to establish this article fails relevancy standards anywhere but in that episode's own article. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 23:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
If we could get a source for this information it would be great: this is talking about the re-edit of this second pilot for the network/vs for broadcast - not the Cage/Menagerie thing. However, I would really like to see a source first, since most of what is here now is sourced. Morwen - Talk 22:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Source: Allan Asherman, The Star Trek Compendium, 1981, pages 50-51 Sir Rhosis 05:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Ace. I will see about putting this in the 'production' section. Morwen - Talk 09:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Per the work being done by a number of editors on and off the Cleanup task force, please do not place "trivia" into articles; this makes them, yes, trivial. For those of you who work on other articles, please make sure they conform to this ideal as well. Write notable facts into prose, and please make sure there is a purpose for each fact within the article, not just "Actor A later became famous in Role B." Thanks. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 13:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Status

So, um, how does this look to other folks now? it seems reaonably balanced in terms of plot/production/continuity notes. the obvious thing that is missing is a "critical reaction" section, which may be pretty impossible to source, unless someone has access to 1960s TV review columns. Maybe there are some fan polls we could source? Morwen - Talk 22:37, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and what do people think of the screenshot we have? I am pondering trying to get one with glowy-eyes Mitchell instead - would that be better? Morwen - Talk 22:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd say it needs a better cap. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:18, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Act I-II-III-IV

An early version of this pilot, which I saw aired once on CKCO Kitchener Ontario in the 1970s, blended the opening titles (cast, director, writer, etc.) into assorted scenes, and labeled each quarter hour of the program similar to how Quinn Martin did shows like "The Fugitive" and "The F.B.I.". GBC 18:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, it is the one we were discussing up the page where I gave the Asherman source. Sir Rhosis 20:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
    • The Asherman source should be in the post so I will add it once I've seen that with my own eyes (as is the Solow "Inside" book). Morwen - Talk 14:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, I cut the very long sentence regarding why Number One was dropped. This sort of A-said B-said thing stalled the paragraph, especially with the long phrase regarding Solow's credentials. Just now says she was dropped. (and hey, wasn't it not the performance that supposedly was the problem so much as allegations of nepotism?) This material should really be at Number One (Star Trek) if it isn't there already. Morwen - Talk 14:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] repeat date

i've realised the repeat date is here. some random AOL ip address added this a year ago, I considered leaving a note but this seems unlikely to reach the desired person. i couldn't find a source for this in my books, I shall try again, but any suggestions as to how I could find a source for this without having actual TV guide back-issues would be welcome. Morwen - Talk 17:33, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the name "Scotty"

what that bit means is that the name was established in the episode, but that it hadn't been decided at script/pre-casting phase. Morwen - Talk 15:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay (I haven't seen the ep in several years). The phrasing suggested that it wasn't yet chosen. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 16:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps it could be clearer. Morwen - Talk 17:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article

I've passed this article as a GA, since as far as I can tell, it looks like it fulfills all the criteria. Its more or less well-written, (I couldn't find anything worth commenting on in terms of bad writing) neutral which is nice for these sorts of articles, (You'd be surprised how many look like they've been written by television critics or something.) I think its fairly well-referenced, the one image has a fair use rationale, and really, everything looks all right to me. For a little improvement though, it looks like a few lines could still be cited yet in the production section, but not knowing the exact content of the references I can't be sure. To really get it up to as good as it can get, finding and listing the page numbers of each reference would probably be pretty nice. Homestarmy 19:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I think at one point some ref tags which were the same on the paragraph after the one which had them first were removed by someone on grounds of redundancy. I can certainly find page numbers : (although then we have the problem that cite book really can't do "ibid page x" type things) Morwen - Talk 02:46, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

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