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Contents 1 Character Infobox Question 2 New Infobox Suggestion: Engineer 3 Nobleman/Aristocrat 4 Model infobox 5 New Infobox Suggestion: Director 6 New Infobox Suggestion: Medical Doctor/MD 7 death date and age 8 Supreme Court justices

[edit] Character Infobox Question

I was going to list the {{Infobox character}} on this page, but first wanted to ask. I started reading that you don't support all infoboxes. Is it appropriate to add that infobox on this main article? Maniwar (talk) 13:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

No, because it's for fictitious characters, which our project doesn't include. Thanks for thinking of us though! --plange 17:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Plange! A fella Georgian I see :) I have been quietly going around fixing and adding infoboxes and since I come to this page so much, I was wondering why the character one was not in there. Thanks for sharing. I guess I'll go back to browsing and adding/fixing infoboxes. --Maniwar (talk) 14:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for all your hard work and glad you find this page useful :-) --plange 16:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Infobox Suggestion: Engineer

There are infobox types for Architects and Scientists. I feel there's a lot of scope for there to be one for Engineers. Any thoughts? -Bernard S. Jansen 03:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nobleman/Aristocrat

There's so many pages for nobles out there (such as in Category:Royalty and nobility work group articles needing infoboxes) that need infoboxes but don't really fit into any of them correctly. "Infobox Politician" does say they have governmental control but implies they're a member of an organized political body. "Infobox Monarch" implies they're royalty when they could be much lower-level. Other than things like "Biography" or "Person" are much to catch-all for someone of this notability, so I think we should add or create a new infobox for non-royal non-political aristocrats, nobles, gentry, lords and/or peers. VolatileChemical 23:06, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Model infobox

I just found this discussion page. I perhaps should have visited here first before raising questions re the model infobox at Village Pump (policy). I have been working on Bollywood films and Bollywood actors and actresses. A number of Bollywood actresses were beauty contest winners or models before taking up acting. Some of the male editors are determined to use the model infobox for these actresses. I feel that the model (and the adult entertainer) infoboxes are not only demeaning to women, they're necessarily ephemeral and at present, universally unreferenced. Dress sizes mean nothing, since they have historically trended downwards and vary by manufacturer. Weight and measurements vary from day to day, or month to month. Furthermore, there's no reason to believe any of the models or pornstars when they CLAIM certain measurements -- I have the impression that claimed measurements, like age, are tweaked for public consumption. Surely we can judge the attractiveness of the subject by means of pictures.

I'm arguing that the measurements should be taken out of the infobox and if given, should be REFERENCED, such as "On X date, model Y stated that she weighed Z" and then cite the publication in which the claim was published.

If there's anyone reading here, please comment at the Village Pump (policy) or leave a message on my talk page. Zora 05:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. You are letting your own personal point of view involved when you claim that model and adult entertainer infoboxes are "demeaning to women". Your entire opinion is void.Fistful of Questions 16:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Infobox Suggestion: Director

There are infoboxes for actors, artists, celebrities, and writers. There should also be one for directors. I've tried using the artist and celebrity infoboxes, but they simply don't fit a director's information very well. We need one for directors as well, and looking at the current ones for Alfred Hitchcock, Sam Peckinpah, and Cecil B. DeMille, they are not very adequate. Fistful of Questions 15:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Already a discussion at Template_talk:Infobox_actor#Template:Infobox_director. --PhantomS 03:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Infobox Suggestion: Medical Doctor/MD

I would like to propose we do an infobox for MD's such as Ben Carson, John Harvey Kellogg, and other prominent MD's. --Maniwar (talk) 02:59, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] death date and age

There is a TfD up for the "death date and age" template, which is for inclusion in infoboxes in a similar way to "birth date and age". Please vote keep/delete on the Templates for Deletion page. --PhantomS 05:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Supreme Court justices

There is currently two infoboxes that are used for U.S. Supreme Court justices, one for chief justices, {{Infobox US Chief Justice}}, and another for associated justices {{Infobox US Associate Justice}}. They should belong to the list here as well. Also, I see that there lacks an infobox for U.S. federal judges, for figures such as Richard Posner and Edith Jones, can someone create one? Thanks! Wooyi 20:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

These infoboxes could easily be merged into one Infobox Judge or Infobox Justice. There is no reason that I can see why these infoboxes are so specific. --PhantomS 20:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you. Yet now the current SCOTUS justice infoboxes are utterly unusable for non-SCOTUS judges, which caused famous people like Posner or Jones not having an infobox at all. I'm not very good at infobox codes though, but it would be good if someone can create a box that is suitable for all justice and judges regardless of what court is he/she in. Wooyi 22:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

See if the new {{Infobox Judge}} works for you. I haven't completed the documentation on it, but it seems to be pretty usable and looks like the two justice infoboxes that its going to replace. --PhantomS 01:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the infobox. I put the new infobox on Alex Kozinski, Richard Posner, and Michael W. McConnell, it seems fine now, just I don't know why the spouse name is italicized (see Richard Posner). Also it's hard to find some non-SCOTUS judges' predecessor/successor, I guess I might call Posner and Kozinski's office tomorrow to check out. Wooyi 03:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I accidentally had the spouse field italicized, which I fixed. As for predecessor/successor, it isn't necessary to fill in every field. --PhantomS 03:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Entries using the Infobox US Chief Justice, Infobox State SC Justice, Infobox State SC Associate Justice, Infobox SCC Chief Justice, and Infobox SCC Puisne Justice templates have been completely replaced with the new Infobox Judge, and the templates themselves have been changed into redirects. Supreme Court associate justice entries will take some more time due to the sheer number. --PhantomS 07:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I have finished converting Infobox US Associate Justice to Infobox Judge. --PhantomS 22:51, 11 March 2007 (UTC)