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Sports figures

I'm going to try to add some articles on some of Oregon's lesser-known but still notable sports personalities. I've started with Bob Gilder and I'll add more (suggestions are welcome!). Anyone know if using images like this one: [1] qualify for fair use under a template such as Template:promophoto? -Big Smooth 17:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Down here in Southern Oregon, we can often feel left out from some of this kind of stuff. A few Southern Oregon sports figures? How about Dick Fosbury, Sonny Sixkiller, or Marshall Holman?--DaKine 18:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

These articles already exist--are you asking us to expand them? P.S. This is a really old thread--in the future it might be better to add new posts at the bottom where they are more likely to be seen. Also check out Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oregon/People as a place to suggest articles that are needed. Happy editing! Katr67 18:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Added Oregon City Municipal Elevator

Anyone know what the other three elevators of the same sort are in the world? --EngineerScotty 05:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I looked, but couldn't find any others. I did find one which said OC is the only one in the US. That was a catalyst for reworking the article a bit. Hope it's okay. — EncMstr 01:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Infobox for project page

**WikiProject Oregon**
This WikiProject is about the US state of Oregon
Shortcuts:	WP:WPOR
Wikimedia Commons:	Oregon
Parent project:	U.S. states
Project notice template:	{{WikiProject Oregon}}
Participant userbox:	{{User WikiProject Oregon}}

For WikiProject Ski and WikiProject Wine I created a new infobox {{infobox WikiProject}} to clean up and format some of the usual metadata about a wikiproject. I was thinking of adding it here, but ran into some issues with formatting. I couldn't easily come up with a way to handle it that didn't harm the {{oregontasks}} box, or the main column content. Perhaps someone out there with a better head for CSS issues than mine could find a way to do it?

Here's the code for using the infobox, and if I included it right, what it would produce should be on the right (and yes, I "randomly" chose a pretty picture instead of something like the state flag - revise as you wish):

 {{Infobox WikiProject
 | name = Oregon
 | image = 031 wizard island.JPG
 | caption = This WikiProject is about the US state of [[Oregon]]
 | shortcuts = [[WP:WPOR]]
 | portal = 
 | portal_img = 
 | commons = Oregon
 | parent = U.S. states
 | notice = WikiProject Oregon
 | userbox = User WikiProject Oregon
 | footnotes = 
 }}

Figured out a way to do this, so I went a head and changed the project page. Let me know what you think. If y'all don't like it, just revert it. I won't be offended :). EvilSuggestions 07:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Invitation to new WikiProject

A new WikiProject has been started, and may be of interest to members here. It is WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. It covers all listings on the Register, in all states and territories. Should you be so inclined, please feel free to join. And spread the word to any other interested parties. -Ebyabe 19:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 19:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

First Portland WikiMeetup

Sorry for the late notice, but next week -- 1 November 2006 -- there will be a get-together of Wikipedians in Portland. The reason for this meeting? This guy named Jimbo Wales will be in town Wednesday & Thursday, & I thought some of you might like to meet him. (Please let me know if you're coming: we need a head-count.) -- llywrch 00:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Have fun everyone--maybe I'll see you at the next one. Katr67 22:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Climate

The article Oregon lacks a section on climate. Jcam 21:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I'm going to remove the template from here if that's OK with you. You can see it on Talk:Oregon. Katr67 22:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Legislature articles and the 2006 Election

Now that the elections are done, I've started to prepare the State Senate and State House of Reps pages for the 2007 session's make up and listings. I have everything ready to post in text files. Because the Sec State's numbers are unofficial, I am holding off on posting what I have edited until they release the official numbers. There are still a couple of really close legislative races.

As for officers of the both houses, I am also holding off on making a list, as the House changed hands, and the Senate may elect some new officers despite staying in Democratic hands.

I plan on keeping the lists for the last session up in a lower section on the respective pages, as California's House and Senate pages keep track of make up and member names going back at least one session.

Ajbenj 10:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Oregon Outback?

I ran across this article and thought perhaps "Oregon Outback" was just a tourist-marketing gimmick, however, The Oregonian refers to it in this article so I guess it is becoming a common usage, despite its origins. ODOT even has Outback Scenic Byway [2], so I guess it's official. Now after cleaning up the Outback article quite a bit, I'm thinking Harney Basin covers pretty much the same thing? My brain hurts so if anyone else wants to take a look at the two articles, that would be swell. As a side note, the Oregon High Desert might be a good related article to write, as this term gets used quite a bit in Oregon, and currently high desert just redirects to desert. Katr67 01:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Welcome our latest wikignomes!

I'm not sure who is paying attention, but I thought I would point out that a couple of our newest members, User:Jgilhousen and User:Aboutmovies, have each started up one of the subprojects of WikiProject Oregon, Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Government and Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/History respectively. We seem to have lost our fearless leader User:PDXblazers to teaching, but hopefully these new subprojects can breathe some new life into our project. I know several of us are quietly chipping away at the Oregon articles, but maybe we can continue to collaborate a bit too. Happy editing! Katr67 20:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Portland Hikers Wiki

Found your wiki project this evening. I wish I had found it a while ago. We have a non-commercial hiking forum (portlandhikers.com) that is three months away from going live with a wiki project we've been working on for the Portland hiking community. It's more of an online resource than an 'encyclopedia' but in many ways we will be redundant (or perhaps complementary) to your efforts here. I'd love it if a few of the folks working on Portland area outdoor pages could contact me so we could decide if we need to redirect some of our efforts. jeffstatt@portlandhikers.com. I understand if you find this inappropriate for this discussion thread. Edit or delete as you see fit.

Jeffstatt 08:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Some Oregon biotech

There are entries for AVI BioPharma and Gene Tools, both Oregon biotech companies, located in Corvallis and Philomath respectively.

JonMoulton 18:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've tagged 'em with the project tag, although I note that Katr67 has already reviewed them and not tagged them. I believe she has expressed an opinion that company articles don't belong in the project, but I haven't seen a discussion of that, and have no sense of consensus on the issue. I'm ambivalent. I have no background in economics, so my only interest in Oregon companies is when they have some historical or political significance. Bottom line, I think they should probably be tagged, but don't know when or if we will attract a project member with the expertise and/or inclination to work on them. I could also be swayed pretty easily by reasoned arguments on one side of the issue or the other. -- J-M Jgilhousen 18:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Though I don't understand the need to solicit tags from us (though it was nice of you to ask), I'm fine with them being part of the project. I just personally have little interest in companies, sports, high schools or random people who may have set foot in Oregon, so in the past I didn't tag things like that. But I think anything that's in an Oregon cat should probably be tagged, preferably by someone who is actually involved with the project so one of us has at least had a chance to see if the article has any glaring issues. That's all my personal bias/opinion though--I don't think there's ever been a real discussion about what is "tag-worthy". So far the only ones I've hesitated on are cross-regional articles and things that look like they might be about to be merged or deleted.

As far as the progress of the tagging project, I've got through Z-M on my watchlist and I see EncMstr has done a whole bunch as well. Katr67 19:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Yep. Got carried away following wikilinks in the Oregon county and river articles. It looks like there are a good number of town articles not yet created—perhaps as many as half mentioned in the eastern counties, and 20–40% in the western.

As for the company articles: Companies primarily operating, founded or based in Oregon should be included, but regional or bigger chains shouldn't be. I have interest in a few of the former, but natural features are my preference. I expect there are many people who would contribute to company articles if the right ingredients came together: knowledge, aptitude, sources, outline, and time. That likely could be bootstrapped by creating stub articles with a useful boilerplate structure: so a web search turns up the stub article in front of someone already interested. I went ahead and tagged those I could find. HP and Intel are also tagged, even though they don't follow my criteria. I think everyone would agree they are an important Oregon topic. — EncMstr 20:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like we're all pretty much in agreement on relevance/prominence issues as applied to including business entities in WikiProject Oregon. I like EncMstr's criteria, as a rule of thumb, and agree with his "exceptions." Companies based outside of Oregon become relevant to our project if they have major facilities here, seriously impact our economy, etc. I can also think of events that could trigger inclusion... for example, the Oregon AG filing civil suit or criminal charges against a company doing business here. I don't think the project is big enough to require codification of such things into anything resembling formal policy. -- J-M Jgilhousen 21:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

(unindent)Yep sounds good. In theory, Google might be included because of Project 02, the server farm in The Dalles (if it is verified). I'm just citing it as an example--the Google article has enough people looking after it without us meddling, I'm sure. Katr67 21:39, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

It's not only been verified, but officially announced; I have pictures of it, and friends working there. They had to lift the veil of secrecy when they started advertising for workers. -- J-M Jgilhousen 23:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello from Hermiston

Hi everybody, I've been working on the Hermiston page. You know, that place about 180 miles east of Portland where all of those delicious watermelons come from every summer. I added the wikiproject Oregon template to that page, hope that was ok. I didn't see any guidelines for making an Oregon city an "official" wikiproject, so let me know if there's something else I need to do. In the mean time, I'm continuing to edit and improve the page. EOBeav 22:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Howdy, EOBeav. Welcome to the project. I'm a relative newcomer to WikiProject Oregon, too, hailing from The Dalles. So far, my impression of the project members is that of a friendly bunch, ready to encourage anyone who is willing to roll up his or her sleeves to pitch in, and quick to provide help in learning the ropes. If your interest is simply making the Hermiston page the best it can be, go for it. I'm sure some of the Cities subgroup members will be checkin' your page to add their two bits worth, and you might want to check out that subgroup, if you haven't already. I'm focusing my attention right now on Oregon government and politics, but also am trying to make some minor contributions in other areas of interest. Feel free to let me know if you have a question... I ain't an expert, but I know several. Hmmm. And maybe it's time to post a picture of myself in my clericals, stetson and boots to my user page. Nah. Wouldn't wanna scare the children. -- J-M+ Jgilhousen 22:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome both of you. So far there's little danger of running low on work. Glad to have some new faces...er...fingers helping out. It is especially nice to have folks outside the big population centers to mix things up a bit. — EncMstr 01:58, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Marked historic Oregon places not on national register

Okay, here's the scoop. There are a number of buildings and other landmarks here in The Dalles and environs with historic markers bearing the Oregon State Seal (white plaques with Blue lettering). Some are on the National Register of Historic places, but many are not.

I seem to remember there having been a section on the Oregon Parks Service about these markers, how to qualify for them, and even including the application forms and a list of all the buildings and places that had been qualified. Since the redesign of Oregon.gov, the applicable section appears to have been deleted. Perhaps my websearch skills are just deteriorating.

Anyway, some of these sites, I think, are sufficiently notable that they merit inclusion in Wikipedia, either as examples of a particular architectural style or because of historic significance. I believe that the current owners of many of them have opted for state rather than federal listing to avoid restrictions on future development of their property. Anyway, if any of you can point me toward where I can find more on this, or have ideas about why such sites should or should not be included, I'm all ears... well, eyes... whatever. -- J-M Jgilhousen 03:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Is this it? http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/grants.shtml I didn't find a list of buildings yet. The SOS may have some stuff too... Forty million redlinks on the NRHP list and you want to add *more* stuff to work on? :P Katr67 04:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe. I'll do some digging from there. A small percentage ofthose forty million are within easy driving distance of here. I was thinking about some for which I already have photographs, and others I could easily take. I'l have to leave the other 39,999,980 or so to people who can more easily afford gas. -- J-M Jgilhousen 21:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

DYK

The project made DYK today with an item lifted from Charles Crookham.

...that U.S. judge Charles Crookham held a mock funeral for Roman numerals when they were retired from use in state pleadings?

-- "J-M" Jgilhousen 08:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hee! Katr67 15:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Naming Conventions as applied to Oregon Government & Politics articles

Although it has some application to all articles within the scope of the Oregon project, I raised this subject with Katr67 in the user space, and we agreed that it was better to discuss it on the Government & Politics talkpage. -- "J-M" (Jgilhousen) 23:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

No article on the December 2006 Windstorm?

I added a mention of it last Friday to Portal: Current events, where no one noticed I had put it under the wrong day. Are all of the people who would work on this article still without electricity? Best to strike while the newspaper links still work. -- llywrch 17:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

What are the criteria for the notability of a windstorm or other weather event? If the recent one is notable, then the 2002 "South Valley Surprise" rates one too. I see no mention of the recent storm anywhere, but that site is a great resource. So far, for storm articles, all I can find are Great Gale of 1880 and Columbus Day Storm of 1962. We also have Willamette Valley Flood of 1996. Katr67 18:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, it was noteable to me! Our power went out just long enough to screw up a bunch of work since I don't have a UPS (ahem... nor save my work as often as I should). Seriously, I haven't really had occasion to think much about notability at all, and certainly not as it relates to acts of nature. I should think that something along the lines of a 25-year (or maybe longer) frequency might apply. I still remember the "Columbus Day Storm of '64?" but given that tornadic activity is an annual event in much of the South and Midwest, I can't imagine our windstorm would warrant an article. Maybe I've just lived too long, and so have experienced so many. -- "J-M" (Jgilhousen) 21:20, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, this definitely deserves an article. Though I actually never much realized anything was going on. The power didn't go out (at least, for longer than a second at a time) and by the time I started walking home at 11:30 the winds had pretty much died down. Though one guy I know had a very large tree narrowly miss destroying his house. I don't think there are precise criteria for a weather event such as this (nor should there be) but as there were human casualties (at least 10) and 1.5 million homes were without power I think most would agree it is appropriate. Owen 21:44, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I was about to start an article but found out that it's been here all along. Owen 22:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict)That all makes sense, especially because this storm had an effect on the current events at Mount Hood. I believe things were worse up in Washington. (And having been through a nasty (ice, then snow, then wind) storm up there in December in 1996 when my power was off for 10 days, if this one was comparable, then the recent one is notable.) Didn't the recent storm result in some federal disaster declarations? (Here is a list of such things from Washington that mentions the "Major Winter Storm" of 1996.) That definitely adds to the notability. So what's the (cover your eyes, J-M) naming convention for such things? Katr67 22:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

...OK, never mind. :)Katr67 22:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Though that does bring up another storm we could use an article on: the Inauguration Day storm. Another article I've been thinking about lately is Climate of Oregon. Apparently three states have articles of this sort, and I think Oregon's climate is certainly diverse and interesting enough for it to make an informative article. Owen 22:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I have subscriptions to two full-text newspaper article archives. If you don't have easy access to old press accounts elsewhere, I could run searches on their databases, and use "e-mail this user" to send you any articles that pop up (assuming you have registered your e-mail address with WP). -- "J-M" (Jgilhousen) 22:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Please do. I'm not sure I could get to work on them any time soon, but having information on-hand would be a good start. Owen 23:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay -- headin' to those sites now. Follow-up, if necessary, on your talk page. -- "J-M" (Jgilhousen) 23:24, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Vanport's location

Wanted --an answer: This new user created an account, asked how to post a talk page at the help desk, then left the following message on the article. I was doing routine welcoming patroling and thought you folks might want to run this down in the spirit of public service or the holiday! Cheers! // FrankB 07:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused about how the location of Vanport is described in this article (and the Portland, OR article). It says Vanport was "located in Multnomah County, Oregon between the contemporary Portland city boundary and the Columbia River." Since I don't know where the contemporary Portland city boundary was, I still don't know where Vanport was. Was it at Delta Park? Or what?

Sylvia A 06:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I answered at user talk:Sylviaa, and pointed her(?) to this. The content should be included in Vanport, Oregon by clarifying the location. — EncMstr 08:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I answered from the hip at the article's talk page, too. Katr67 15:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Judges, U.S. District Court for the District of Oregon

Anyone have ready access to a federal judiciary directory that could provide me a list of the current U.S. District Court judges for Oregon? The directory on the Court's website lists senior judges, judges, and magistrates having offices in the courthouse in Portland without distinction. I can puzzle it out by individually looking each one up in the federal judge biographical database, but it would give me a leg up if someone has a list they could scan and shoot me via the "e-mail this user" function on my user page. Thanks. -- "J-M" (Jgilhousen) 21:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Gray Sails the Columbia River

I was hoping some folks could weigh in on the debate about a propossed merger of the above page, if anyone has time.Thanks. Aboutmovies 18:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Recent Changes Camp

This will be meeting next month, Friday 2 Feb. thru Sunday 4 Feb. Cost is free anyone interested in assembling there for a Wikipedia Meetup/Birds-of-a-Feather gathering? -- llywrch 02:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Inconsistent "Mt. Hood" usage

I just initiated discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(abbreviations)#Mount_.2F_Mountain_.2F_Mt._.2F_Mt in case anyone wants to offer their two cents about when and if abbreviation should be used. --"J-M" (Jgilhousen) 20:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Good idea, I commented there. -Big Smooth 23:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Article in need of help

I noticed Gopher Valley Oregon after clicking through random pages, but am not sure what to do with it. Perhaps someone from the area can make heads or tails of what is worth keeping? --Klork 19:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Wow. That's one dense block of text. Thanks for the heads up. We'll see what we can do. Katr67 20:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

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