Wikipedia talk:WikiProject edit counters/Flcelloguy's Tool

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Regarding the namespaces that are listed here, the current ones are for en.wikipedia.org. However, the namespaces for other languages are very different (example). (though, as far as I can tell, I think they're all at most "word1 word2:"). The best way that I've figured out so far is to fetch the language files via CVS (a copy is here), and extract the entries somehow. --Interiot 04:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

True. I haven't worked on inter-wiki operability yet. That'll have to wait until we have the tool working properly here, then deploy to other projects. Titoxd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 04:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Is there a .jar file I can download if I don't want to compile all that? — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 15:55, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Not yet. (We'll work on that... :-) ) Flcelloguy (A note?) 17:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Could you give an elevator pitch on what the tool does? (I got that it reformats contributions page entries, but now what for) Thanks! ++Lar 00:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

It basically does the same thing as the now-popular Interiot's Tool, but since it runs in your computer, instead of a remote web server, it is very unlikely that you'll be firewalled... :). It's under development right now, but any help is welcome... Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:16, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

CGI scripts can be run more or less privately as well. I'm not sure what the specific rules are about scraping, since edit-counting can be done with anything ranging from a human eye to a public webserver that gets tons of hits. I guess as long as you don't do a lot of traffic from a single IP, you're fine. *shrug* At least nobody has deleted User:Interiot/Tool2/code.js yet. (for what it's worth, if I were working without toolserver access, I would think that the .js version would be the best one to work on, because it's far easier for individual users to "install" and get running).

Anyway, do you have a screenshot of the current Java tool? --Interiot 02:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Shh! WP:BEANS! As for the screen shot, here's the UI: Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 02:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Filespace offer still stands 2 Jar and webstart 3 Sourceforge 4 Scraping? 5 JAR file timing out 6 Question 7 Other JREs 8 Code 9 Language/Project support 10 Installation template 11 Graphs 12 Deleted edits

[edit] Filespace offer still stands

Just drop me an email if and when... ++Lar: t/c 03:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jar and webstart

I will later today build a JAR file and a webstart module, and see if I can get those working as media from wikipedia. KimvdLinde 12:52, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I just tried the JAR file that was added, but that does not run. I will dig into it for the moment. KimvdLinde 14:40, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I asked on IRC (#wikipedia); the directions worked for at least one person (Suisui). You need to download and run the batch file, too. If there's a better way, please go ahead and use that one. :) --AySz88^-^ 14:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)\

I just copy and pasted every source file from the page, but I seem to miss the StringBuilder classI will download the version 4 stuff. KimvdLinde 15:08, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Hummm, 1.5 java, not ready yet to go to there..... O well. KimvdLinde 15:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sourceforge

Does anyone know about getting space on sourceforge? Then a lot more people might be able to contribute, and you'd have somewhere to put your jar files. enochlau (talk) 01:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I believe that SourceForge has to approve the project first, but that would make things a bit easier, true. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 19:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, we did get one: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wiki-flcelloguy/ is the address. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 02:15, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scraping?

Does this work by HTML scraping? Are the devs going to get upset if people start using this in numbers while the toolserver is frozen out? -Splash^talk 15:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, AFAIK, the only ways to do it are via the toolserver, or by HTML scraping. Also, the people to ask would be... the devs. While they've blocked one scraper before, it was blocked after the toolserver came back online, so it might be possible that they tolerate external counters more when the toolserver is down, but it's very well possible that they don't. --Interiot 15:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

It can be turned off by request too, and it is designed not to be automated. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 18:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JAR file timing out

The JAR file download seems to be timing out; see the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#how are my edits broken down?. Is the site simply overloaded? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 01:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay okay, I can host it on the toolserver, even if I have to manually update it every day. How big is this sucker, and how to do you send it sans hosting? --Interiot 01:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

About 70 KB. The current way is by copying the code and compile it, or wait until AySz88 turns on his computer (as it is hosted there for now). I have the development version of the tool - where do you want me to send it? Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 01:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, it's working right now, but I don't think it's possible for this to be a permanent solution.... I think my ISP might be blocking the port if they detect that an HTTP server's listening on it. If it goes down, please message me again, and you can contact me via an IM service if you like (see top of my talk page). :) --AySz88^-^ 05:43, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

If you need these files mirrored somewhere else, please let me know. I'm perfectly happy to do this for you - e-mail me with the files and I'll set it up. Technical info: nathanr.com is indirectly hosted by Telecom Ottawa - the link is (not sure of the exact bandwidth) fibre connection so the connection won't drop anytime soon. — nathanrdotcom ^{(T • C • W)} 20:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, we got permanent hosting now in Sourceforge, but thanks for the offer. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 22:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hi, I'm wondering why I can see other people's post counts but I can't see mine. QuizQuick 19:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Not sure... your edit count ran without problems in my copy. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 19:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other JREs

Will this work with kaffe? --maru (talk) contribs 04:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

We haven't tried it, but if it is Java-based, it might. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 06:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

No good. :( I tried it with whatever was the latest jar file on Sourceforge today, and with kaffe it is rather screwed up. It did generate a lot of error message, though, like this:

(.:1424): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed java.lang.InternalError: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:native) at java.lang.VMThrowable.fillInStackTrace (VMThrowable.java:79) at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace (Throwable.java:498) at java.lang.Throwable.<init> (Throwable.java:159) at java.lang.Error.<init> (Error.java:81) at java.lang.VirtualMachineError.<init> (VirtualMachineError.java:71) at java.lang.InternalError.<init> (InternalError.java:70) at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkImage.drawPixelsScaledFlipped (GtkImage.java:native) at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkImage.drawImage (GtkImage.java:601) at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GdkGraphics.drawImage (GdkGraphics.java:254) at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GdkGraphics.drawImage (GdkGraphics.java:267) at javax.swing.RepaintManager.commitBuffer (RepaintManager.java:666) at javax.swing.JComponent.paintDoubleBuffered (JComponent.java:1837) at javax.swing.JComponent.paint (JComponent.java:1564) at java.awt.Container$GfxPaintVisitor.visit (Container.java:1899) at java.awt.Container.visitChild (Container.java:1714) at java.awt.Container.visitChildren (Container.java:1685) at java.awt.Container.paint (Container.java:766) at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkComponentPeer.paintComponent (GtkComponentPeer.java:321) at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkComponentPeer.handleEvent (GtkComponentPeer.java:285) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl (Component.java:4968) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl (Container.java:1734) at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl (Window.java:626) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent (Component.java:2320) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent (EventQueue.java:474) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run (EventDispatchThread.java:75) at java.lang.VMThread.run (VMThread.java:123)

--maru (talk) contribs 15:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

The JAR file there is screwy... have you tried downloading the uncompressed source code from CVS? That's what the latest development version we're running, so if there's no bugs, it's just a problem with the bytecode compression by Sun's Java. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Code

I tried to compile the code, but it misses FrameResult class. Where can I find it? Nuno Tavares 05:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

That's for an old version... the current code is available through cvs at SourceForge, and will be copied back here when work on version 5.0 is done (currently underway). Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 05:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, weird. Anonymous CVS is not allowed, and the proxy server gives 502. I'll try coming back later. Nuno Tavares 06:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Developer access is down too. SourceForge is down. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 06:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Language/Project support

Hi. I've made to some hardcoded changes to support pt:. I'm posting some diffs here so you can check the changes. You will need a combo selector for either project language and family (pt/en, wikipedia/wiktionary, etc), at any time, so perhaps it's a good moment to add it. Excuse the awful format of the diffs, I'm still looking for a nice diff program for Windows (I guess I'll have to get the DiffUtils, anyway :/). I also added an extra flag to skip the confirmation ("5000 got. Continue?") dialog, so the task can be fully UI independent. Nuno Tavares 09:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Just found out that the diff is incomplete. It misses 2 or 3 changes on the upper level. It's pretty straight forward, though, so I guess it doesn't worth it to remake the diffs (I have to do it one by one :S). Nuno Tavares 12:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Installation template

Is there a generic installation template for Wikipedia- the current way the installation guide is written was baffling even for me! EVOCATIVEINTRIGUE TALKTOME | EMAILME | IMPROVEME 18:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Graphs

A graphic representation of the frequency of edits, edits per month/hour of the day, et al, as seen in the no-longer updated Editcount would be a great addition, if it's not too much of a hassle. Porfyrios 15:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Currently being worked on, will be ready in the next major release, hopefully by the end of the week. <:) Titoxd^(?!?) 23:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Can it output CSV yet? IMHO, that would be the end-all-be-all of graph options, since then the user can graph anything they could possibly want (eg. "edits by time of day, but only for edits to WP:ANI" or whatever they could dream of...). --Interiot 02:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

The only problem I've found with CSV is that some pages have commas in their names, which throws off a reader... however, a tab-separated value output function is coded and works properly. We need a switch in the GUI to put it on, though... Titoxd^(?!?) 02:17, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted edits

Does this tool list the number of deleted edits (the edits that are discounted from the contributions list)? Carcharoth 15:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)