Talk:William Faulkner
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[edit] "The Marble Faun"
I'm not particuraly skilled at wiking - but the page that "The Marble Faun" linked to was Hawthrone's - so I made it not linked to anything...
Isn't it true that he won the Nobel Prize for literature prior to winning the Pulitzer Prize? And that "some" historians view this as a function of racism in America (due to his subject matter)? Maybe not? But maybe it's relevant?128.36.66.155 00:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Luke
[edit] Critics/criticism?
Does anyone know about prominent critics/criticism of Faulkner? I know Nabokov disliked him and thought him a bad writer.
I'm pretty sure that some vandalism has been added to the short stories bibliography. "Fuck You, San Diego" and "..Party In My Pants" are quotes from the movie "The Anchorman." Definetly not legit.
I must be reading a different author, for in either of the two books I read, As I Lay Dying and The Sound and the Fury, neither of his prose comes across as long or serpentine. Mandel 12:47, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
- Really? Are you reading it in the original English? ;) In The Sound and the Fury, almost all of Quentin's chapter is written in very long sentences without breaks, sometimes spanning multiple pages and with parenthetical divergences galore. (Don't get me wrong--I love Faulkner!) Phil Bordelon 14:52, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC)
- Maybe I have been mixing As I Lay Dying up with The Sound and the Fury, where the sentences are extremely short. But even going back to The Sound and the Fury, those sentences are long not because the sentence structure are long (as in Proust or in Henry James), but because they simply lack periods and punctuation - a mark of stream-of-consciousness, not of any sentence construction. "Long and serpentine" gives the impression that he writes very wordy, very convoluted prose - which isn't true. That hardly suggest his general style is long and serpentine.
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- But anyway, if Faulkner has a penchant for long sentences, the wording still ought to be rephrased. "Experimental" could come in, "serpentine" should not. Mandel 15:28, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)
For an example of Faulkner's serpentine prose, check out Absalom, Absalom. The writing style is wordy and convoluted, and very different from the two novels mentioned above. It's like it's a different author (with respect to the sentence structure, at any rate).--Mycenae 18:05, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
"Sometimes challenging or even difficult?"
[edit] The Wild Palm
The novel I read was named "The Wild Palm". The link to this novel is named: "If I Forget Thee Jerusalem (The Wild Palms/Old Man)". The original name on this page was also named "If I Forget Thee Jerusalem (The Wild Palms/Old Man)" but someone changed it to "The Wild Palm". I have linked the older page with this link, but I am seriously confused as to what name is the real name of the novel?
- From what I understand, Faulkner's intended title for the novel was indeed "If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem". However, the original printing was released, against Faulkner's will, as "The Wild Palms". For those who havn't read it, the book consists of two interwoven tales, continually swapping chapters from one ("The Wild Palms") to the other ("The Old Man"). For a period, the publishers attempted to revert the title to match Faulkner's own preferences and it was released as "If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem". To avoid the confusion, recent reproductions of the novel have been going under the title "If I Forget Thee, Jerusalem (The Wild Palms/The Old Man)", or some similar form.
--sidd 11:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A Rose for Emily
The long synopsis on A Rose for Emily would probably work better as its own article, thus cutting down on the clutter on the Faulkner page. If nobody objects, I will move it. Otherwise we could wind up with synopses of every story that he wrote, which will detract from the article.
[edit] what are the theme , techniquesand styles that can be seen in the novel as i lay dying
[edit] Short stories?
I just discovered this website through a friend of mine and I've found the lengthy descriptions and interpretations of many of my favorite movies and comic books to be really fascinating. Because it has info on such things as The Maxx, I was kind of expecting it to have a complete list of Faulkner works as well as more then just a description of the basic plot. I am referring specifically to The Bear, Old Man, and Spotted Horses. Is there a specific reason they were left out? Or are they on here somewhere and I have just missed them?
[edit] Faulkners use of italics
While reading the sound and the fury I didnt understand how Faulkner used italics differently. The first place I looked was this article but it has no info on his use of italics. I searched the web and found out that Faulkner uses italics to show time shifts. Could this be included in the article somehow?
- Broadly speaking, it is usually as a means of providing some sort of clevage between on form of narrative and another. The specific use differs from case to case (though usually, he sticks to one purpose for each novel). In The Sound And The Fury for example, it implies a shift in time. However, in The Wild Palms and As I Lay Dying, italics are used to represent interior monologue.--sidd 11:14, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Be careful in The Sound and the Fury as 1) Flash backs and time shifts still occur without the use of the italics 2) Periods of different time in each section do not necessarily stay in italics for the entire flashback 3) Regardless of the use of italics, the time shifts can often be jarring and confusing, calling for particularly close reading.
[edit] Hemingway Rivalry
I am interested in seeing more of the details on this rivalry in the article, or a seperate article about the rivalry, since it was mentioned quite a lot in my literature class. I do not personally know enough on the subject to write anything, currently. Sirkha 00:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] All I can...
I have tried to seperate the text into seperate headings to make things a little clear. But I am not sure that I can classify texts further into the heading "Alcoholism." Plus more details wouldn't hurt either. Merishi 08:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requiem for a Nun
I came across this while checking the Faulkner page on the Italian wikipedia. It said that 'Requiem' was a novel and that French writer Albert Camus made it into a play. Now I checked Camus' complete works in the 'Pléiade' 1962 edition, and they reprint an introduction he wrote to Faulkner's works, (page 1866 ff.) where he seems to imply that while 'Requiem' contains parts written in drama form, it is rather a hybrid construction, and he still calls it a 'roman' (novel in French'), tha he has adapted to the scene . It's worth noting that Joyce's Ulysses, contains part which are written as a play too, so it was a device which could have come to mind at the time. I wonder if 'Requiem' is really Faulkner's 'only play', or isn't rather another experiment with form, undertaken after he had had experience with Hollywood scrrenplays (that would make him someone who wrote novels and movie scripts, but not theater, which is maybe interesting from an historical point of view)?--Cleversnail 12:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hawthorne
It seems to me that Nathaniel Hawthorne was another major influence on Faulkner.
[edit] Influences
I'm pretty sure that Camus and Sarte did not influence Faulkner. I would add Sherwood Anderson as an influence. Does anybody know if Faulkner read Thomas Hardy? I have always felt that there is a kinship between the two. User:badtpist
[edit] Nobel Prize anectdote
The story of Faulkner's nephew and the unnamed relative trying to deceive Faulkner into staying sober does not make much sense. I read it a few times, and I still cannot grasp how exactly the relative was trying to deceive Faulkner. Is there a citation for this?
[edit] Unsourced rumors removed from article
The text of the Nobel Prize speech is also available on the website of the Nobel Foundation [1], together with a partial audio recording. It is not specified whether this recording is live or if it was made later in a studio, but reverberation, echo, and ambient noises, along with hesitations and mispronunciations, plus minor differences of style from the published text, seem to indicate it is indeed live.
According to rumor, Faulkner's alcoholism was particularly severe after a major accomplishment, when he would go on prolonged binges. Normally, during his drinking bouts he would stay in bed and have various family members bring him his drinks and keep him company. An interesting anecdote describes Faulkner after his winning of the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1949, when he drank heavily in anticipation of his departure for Stockholm. His nephew brought him a drink and began to talk about his triumphs in a recent football game, which had taken place on the same day Faulkner had been told he had to sail for the prize ceremony. Despite his inebriation, Faulkner put two and two together and realized that a family member had intentionally lied to him about the true date of his Nobel Prize reception in order to ensure his sobriety at the event; he then resumed drinking steadily until the actual date. It is said that his speech was not noted for its greatness until the next day, when it appeared in writing, because Mr. Faulkner had stood too far from the microphone, had mumbled, and had spoken with his usual deep Southern drawl, making it almost impossible for those in attendance to hear or understand him. Recordings of the Nobel Prize speech—which appear on "Faulkner Reads" with sections from As I Lay Dying, The Old Man, and A Fable—were recorded in a studio after the actual event. In it he remarked, "I decline to accept the end of man [...] Man will not only endure, but prevail...." Both events were fully in character. An unverified story has it that before Faulkner's death in 1962, the author John Steinbeck called him to ask for advice regarding his own Nobel Prize acceptance speech. The two great American authors were not known to be great mutual admirers, but Faulkner is said to have told Steinbeck that he had no advice to offer as he was too drunk to remember it.
[edit] Fraternity
Please add that he was a member of the Sigma Alpha Epsilon fraternity at the University of Mississippi.
[edit] "marked"
In "Mississippi marked his sense of humor", the word "marked" is ambiguous. It could mean either "noticed" or "influenced".D021317c 07:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Another puzzling sentence
I don't understand the following sentence:
Interestingly enough, only two of what would be considered as Faulkner's "minor" novels were those to receive the Pulitzer Prize.
("Enough" is unnecessary -- but not confusing.) "Only two" suggests that there ought to be more than two, but why? "Would be considered" leaves me wondering who would consider. But it's "only two...were those to receive" that's the confusing bit. I guess what the contributor meant was that Faulkner's only works to win the Pulitzer were two novels which somebody (or everybody) considers minor.D021317c 08:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Author navigation box
Faulkner desperately needs a full author navigation box! Once done, there's no need for the massive bibliography section (Wikipedia is not a list or whatever)... By the way, I'm impressed by the number of articles that exist on his writings! Midnightdreary 03:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
