Talk:Witold Lutosławski

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Contents 1 Classified works list 2 Compositions 3 Huh? Article missing? 4 On pre-eminence 5 images

[edit] Classified works list

I don't think the article gains from having the works in a classified list. Each work has the forces for which it was written clearly stated, so the article does not gain any information; on the contrary, the chronology of the works is lost. Can I put it back to just a plain list, please? --RobertG ♬ talk 09:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

• However, the link to the Polish Music Center already gives a chronological list. I think it's better for us not to repeat the same thing. Also, since most people who visit will not be musicologists, there wouldn't be such an important need to list the works chronologically; it would be more systematic to group similar things together; it also helps people in remembering the contents. If the list is a short one, it is very natural to list them chronologically. But since this is a very long one, I support grouping items into categories, so as to be more systematic.

The list getting a bit long in any case, so it should be put on a separate page... there we can have different classifications and also a chronological list. Karol 10:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Compositions

Why has the list of compositions been unilaterally moved? This is a featured article, and doesn't deserve to be chopped up in this way. --RobertG ♬ talk 11:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I moved it, because it was very long. There's no point in listing _all_ of his works in this article, even if it is a featured one. There is now incentive to refactor that list and place the most important compositions in the article, and perhaps to add a summary of his compositions, some statistics, comments, etc. 16:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huh? Article missing?

I can read the discussion page, but when I try to look at the article, it tells me Wikipedia has no such page. Is there a database problem? DanB†DanD 04:09, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Strange ... I "fixed" the article by selecting the most recent version from the history, editing it, and saving it without changes. My edit doesn't show up in the history, but the article is visible to me once again. Is this a known problem wikipedia has? Or is it nothing but a caching problem or something like that on my end? DanB†DanD 04:12, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On pre-eminence

Regarding the statement "...and was the pre-eminent musician of his country during the last three decades of the century". I changed this sentence to "...and was one of the pre-eminent musicians of his country...", since, at the very least, Krzysztof Penderecki and Henryk Górecki too were pre-eminent during the last three to four decades of the 20th century. ---Sluzzelin 17:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] images

I noticed in the archives a reference to pictures of the younger Lutoslawski. I think it'd be nice to have them for variety -- all the photos there now seem to be from at least the mid 1980's. Esp. a picture w/ his family, for example, or Panufnik or another significant musician, would be pretty cool.

Also it occurs to me that for an illustration of his aleatory technique and notation, maybe a smaller-scale work would be easier for the novice to read. The analysis to the right of the symphony page is excellent -- clear and concise -- but I find myself squinting to try & make out what's going on in the score, and the notes themselves are nothing but blurs, so that the rhythmic variety in each part is apparent only if you click through twice to the larger image. Wouldn't the seminal String Quartet, for example, provide a clearer illustration for the novice? (provided somebody could find or provide an image). This example would still be valuable for the article on the symphony itself. --Turangalila (talk) 22:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)