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On 17 Oct 2004, 23skidoo added the comment "As a child, Worf was adopted by a human couple, the Rozhenkos, therefore his legal name is Worf Rozhenko, however he never uses it. His son, Alexander Rozhenko, does however." Was that name ever actually used in an episode? If not, then it is merely an original idea, and should be deleted, despite its being logically sound. --Keeves 04:38, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Are you referring to "Worf Rozhenko" or "Alexander Rozhenko"? I am pretty sure that "Alexander Rozhenko" has been used, although I cannot recall which episode may have used it. As far as "Worf Rozhenko", perhaps we should remove that part. What would it mean to be a legal name in the Federation? — Knowledge Seeker 04:59, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Whoops! Sorry I wasn't clear! Sure, the name "Alexander Rozhenko" has been used many times. "Worf Rozhenko" was the one I was referring to. My perception is that he uses his Klingon name - simply "Worf" with no associated family name - as an adult, but this may or may not have been how he was called as a child. Among humans, his name might have been Worf Rozhenko, but it could just as well have been Vladmir Rozhenko, Anatoly Rozhenko, or even George Rozhenko for all we know. --Keeves 11:56, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The page shows Worf's home planet as Khitomer. Although he survived the raid of this planet, I believe his back story is that he and his family were merely visiting the planet when it was attacked. Worf was actually born on Kronos, the Klingon home world.--SteveHFish 02:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

To add on to the name issue, Worf was always identified by Starfleet and Federation personnel as simply "Worf." He was identified by his fellow Klingons as "Worf, son of Mogh," so that would be his "full" name. ----Willie 08:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Worf as a full Commander?

When was Worf promoted to full Commander? I believe he was still an LCDR in Star Trek: Nemesis. A few users have posted he was a Commander. Is this accurate? -Husnock 23:50, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

I found the answer. Per Star Trek Nemesis, the last film put out, Worf was still a Lieutenant Commander [1]. He also doesn't appear to have a full Commander in Star Trek: First Contact either [2] although eh did serve as Commanding Officer of the Defiant. -Husnock 23:58, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Worf was promoted to Lt. Commander in "First Contact", and I don't think he was promoted after that, primarily because of the failure of his mission to rescue a Cardassian double agent. --SteveHFish 02:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC) Actually, Worf was promoted to Lt. Commander in Generations. ----Willie 08:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] baldric

Worf's sash is symbolic of being the eldest son of his family.

Is there a reference for this? Episode or source? — THOR 29 June 2005 20:04 (UTC)

It seems unlikely as he continues to wear a sash after joining Martoc's(sp?) house in DS9 despite Martoc clearly being older and considering him a brother. 69.3.92.105 8 July 2005 17:46 (UTC)

Isn't it lovely how Starfleet lets him wear that gross violation of the dresscode, too, despite not having any apparent Klingon value, even though Bajorans can't wear their religious earrings? Heh, dresscode nazis. --unsigned

"Er, Number One, you tell him about the Uniform Code." --ScottAlanHill 04:13, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Worf's parents dead?

I could swear in one episode he found out that his dad in fact survived, along with the others, and he was all concerned at their apparent dishonor at surviving a failed battle and not killing themselves.. Wasn't that his dad? If it wasn't, it was somebody's dad.

  • There was a two-part episode where Worf learned of survivors of the Khitomer massacre, and believed his father might have survived the raid. However, although he found other survivors, who had been imprisoned by the Romulans, they confirmed that Worf's father was indeed killed in the original raid. --74.12.77.163 02:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


QUESTION?

"He is the only character to appear as a regular on more than one Star Trek series, was the first regular Klingon character to appear in Star Trek, and has also appeared in more Star Trek episodes than any other character."

Granted he was the first regular Klingon in Trek history, and yes he was a regular cast member, but it could be debated as to Worf appearing in more Star Trek Episodes than any other character, here are two others: 1. O’Brien he was in at least 60 TNG episodes and was in 173 DS9 episodes, (grated the 4 TNG movies, helped Worf to beat him but Movies are not episodes, should they count?) 2. Majel Barrett who was in all 5 shows as the voice of most if not all of the Federation starships, listed as the ships computer in the ending credits for all Star Trek shows doesn't that count as one role and if it doesn't why? (if the ending credits said Enterprise computer in TOS & TNG, Defiant Computer for DS9, and Voyager Computer for Voy. then Worf is the longest running ST character) if it does it is a heck of a lot more then Worf! I am not counting her "on-screen roles" as she has played multiple characters)

[edit] After "Nemesis"

In the -Time Line- section, there's no mention of Worf's Starfleet career after "Nemesis". I wonder, has Worf become the Enterprise E's new Second Officer? What do Star Trek books say? GoodDay 17:34, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

The books say, In "A Time for War, A Time for Peace" that Ambassador Worf resigns his position and rejoins Picard on the Enterprise, so Alexander can become Ambassador. It is not mentioned what his position is on the Enterprise, but considering his previous positions it is likely he become either the Chief Tatical Officer, or First Officer, as all other main cast members are either transferring or, in the case of Data, destroyed. Although there is a Data-like android, B-4 and as stated in the book, Page 317 he has Data's memories, so he could take over Data's position as Second Officer, or potentially 1st Officer. It is likely that information will be revealed in other books about Worf's position. --211.28.125.161 07:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Colonel Worf

It is complete specualution that Colonel Worf is related Worf. Granted, they are both named Worf, and both played by the same actor, but it was never officially verified in canon. I am removing all references to this connection. - SigmaEpsilonΣΕ 17:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Worf... What about O'Brien???

"...appeared in more Star Trek episodes than any other character (TNG years 1-7, DS9 years 4-7, Star Trek movie 7-10) and the only actor to be a regular character in two Star Trek series playing the same character"

What about O'Brien?

O'Brien wasn'T a regular character of TNG

Agreed. O'Brien was a recurring character on TNG, but Colm Meaney was never listed as a regular character until he moved to DS9.--Tiberius47 06:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expanding the 'Duels' section

I think there are a few other things worth mentioning with regard to Worf's prowess as a warrior. For example, he did win first place at some bat-leth(sp?) competition, didn't he? And didn't he slay a number of Jem'Hadar in unarmed combat while incarcerated by the Dominion? It's also worth noting that he was unwilling to concede defeat in fighting the Jem'Hadar 'First,' even though he would have known that he was asking for death. Within the empire, Worf should have the status of a legendary warrior, shouldn't he? If someone has enough knowledge/sources to write about these things, it would be appreciated. 71.116.79.36 16:48, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Memorable quotes

I removed this section. "Memorable" is subjective/non-NPOV -- strictly speaking, everything he says is to some degree memorable, and we're not going to put all his dialog there. "Notable" quotes would be more significant, but lacking a citation about what makes them memorable, that doesn't work either. Additionally, rather than offering quotes, his "aggressive and authoritarian nature, awkwardness . . . and the otherwise unintentional humor" should be (and are) articulated in the main article. Lastly, straight-up quotes should be over in Wikiquote. If someone wants to move them over there, by all means... --EEMeltonIV 11:33, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

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