Talk:Z-variant
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[edit] no more simple "grep 不"
Oh no. Now I will have to grep for two characters instead of one. Say where they keep the master list of them.
Mention if color/colour is like X,Y, or Z variants.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.201.31.246 (talk • contribs) 16:34, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
- It's fundamentally impossible to unify Chinese so everyone will be happy. Like everything else in real life text processing, code is going to have to be sensitive to the issues, just like code is sensitive to casing issues. The Unihan file from the Unicode ftp site has some of this information.
- There's been enough bad analogies already. Making superficial comparisons to English isn't going to clear anything up; to understand the issue, you'll have to understand some of the concepts behind Chinese writing.--Prosfilaes 22:15, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] x-variant?
We have
- The X-axis represents differences in semantics; for example, the Latin capital A (U+0041 A) and the Greek capital alpha (U+0391 Α) are represented by two distinct codepoints in Unicode, and might be termed “X-variants”
But I think that's a bad example. In my opinion, Latin A versus Greek A are Y-variants or Z-variants or no variants at all, distinct only because of the source separation rule. I'm still not sure I understand the term "x-variant" correctly, but I think a better example might be U+00C5 Latin Capital Letter A with Ring Above Å versus U+212B Angstrom Sign Å, or U+03BC Greek Small Letter Mu μ versus U+00B5 Micro Sign µ, or maybe even U+0041 Latin Capital Letter A versus U+0042 Latin Capital Letter B. —Steve Summit (talk) 21:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- The fact that every Latin/Greek character set that wasn't trying to cram both in 7 bits has encoded Latin and Greek seperately shows that Greek users feel it's not merely source seperation. Conflating the two brings up too many problems. U+00C5 and U+212B are the same thing in Unicode; they aren't variants of any kind.--Prosfilaes 01:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
