Talk:Zeitoun apparitions
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Moved to "Zeitoun", about twice as many Google hits as "Zeitun".
Tualha 02:42, Nov 17, 2003 (UTC)
Details of Tualha's 16 Nov edit:
Was basically an ad for OP's website and severely POV. NPOV, "alleged", shortened, cut encomium and official statements, added pic.
Issues:
- Original version refers to an investigating committee, and a committee headed by Anba Gregorios. I have assumed these committees were one and the same, and rewritten accordingly. Please fix if in error.
- It would be nice if someone could find some NPOV discussion of this on the web, especially attempts at scientific explanation. I haven't, as yet, but I didn't look very hard either.
Tualha 04:13, Nov 17, 2003 (UTC)
Postscript: I realize the article is rather apparition-heavy and Zeitoun-light, but I haven't been able to find anything on the web about the town except apparition pages. I think this is the best way to handle it - start out saying it's a town and why it's worth putting in the wiki, then focus on its claim to fame.
Tualha 04:40, Nov 17, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Daylight photographs
What interested me the most is that seemingly we don't have any photos taken in plain light of the day! Curious, no?
I've been reading about the apparitions at Zeitoun for about five years. I've never thought about that. However, that also assumes that the apparition would have to happen during the day also to be authentically supernatural. Apparitions to individuals did happen during the day albeit not above the the St. Mary's Coptic Orthodox Church in Zeitoun. I think the book, When Millions Saw Mary, by Pearl Zaki explains several instances of individuals who were contacted by a divine being in their homes, including a Muslim man who had been whipping stones at Coptic Pilgrims. Mary, according to the story, instructed him to paint white crosses throughout Zeitoun as reparation. Also, scietifically there has been put forward an explanation for the phenomena, which is that of "tectonic strain". It's a somewhat unknown theory that holds that during times of increased seismic activity, people report seeing luminiscent beings and spiritual experiences. Some people have criticized this as going out on a limb, particularly because in 2000 in Jordan, white lights were recorded above an Orthodox Church during daylight while there was not a jump in seismicity. Either way, it makes for an interesting story.
[edit] Citation needed ?
I added two references. They are very thin brochures, and probably nowhere to get, except in their (complete?) form on the 'Zeitoun Web Gallery. It's a bit double, because this website is already in the External Links section, but I thought it makes sense, also because the two texts are not readily found there. Main question: Is this enough to cover the 'citation needed' request in the article? I have assumed that it is and removed the request.Geke 18:10, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
