Talk:Zoning
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I just pulled the discussion of "grandfathering" in the Atlanta billboard case. While grandfathering has some tangential relevance here, it is a general topic well covered in other discussions of the law. The text came across as a distraction in this discussion of zoning. (Of course, it didn't help that the example used language such as "eyesore" - pretty clear that this would be very hard example to use and still stick to our NPOV policy. Rossami 15:35, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Zoning is patricuarly susceptable to corruption. Plus most laws require a person to be on another's property, public property, or interfering with another person to be invoked. Thus enforcement of z laws should be approached with great discretion to avoid violation of the sanctity of home. But z enforcers are often the lowest of the low, who would want to be a z enforcer, entering upon citizens proprety if they had another choice? yet they have police powers! There are laws limiting the height of hedges to 4.5 feet where thousands of properties have 12 footers, yet z enforcers have no problem giving first "offense" tickets for $250, subsequently they go to $500/day! Trees with limbs less than 7feet are illegal ( even in one's backyard ) yet palms grow through a phase where this is impossible. I have had tickets for too tall grass ( I HAVE VITUALLY NONE ), for parking a commercial vehicle ( a moving van, it's illegal to have lunch while loading, unless lunch last less than 30minutes! $500 fine ) and "storing" the car I drive ( new, ten day old tag, $500 ), charged for violations which the DCA had previously overturned ( eventually $12,000 in fines), and denied first time extensions of "administrative hearing" for " urgent health care" etc & etc! The laws are neither criminal nor civil, sort of a twilight zoning, and the game is rigged. It is easy for enforcers acting under color of law to step over it and become criminal organizations, especially when there is pressure to raise revenue, but how can one prevent them from engaging in this destruction civilization ?. Incidently, I live in Miami, where most civil "servants" are not born American, perhaps things are different elsewhere, but here the tempation to abuse law is too great for the minions of the city to resist. And if they force the old and infirm out, they can raise the tax base on the housing based on the selling price. If you would care to discuss issues relating to this topic please click my link. ta WblakesxWblakesx 00:04, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I live in NY City and as you can imagine these z-enforcers are not working the headge patrol. There are a number of instutions that enforce a varity of zoning related issues, from land managment to air rights revocation. HUD makes shure that buildings zoned industrial do not rise in res. areas, enforce low income responsibilities on landlords forces develupers to comply with safty codes, etc. The fire department enforces fire safty building codes, and inspects to make shure the sprinklers and such work. There are elevator inspectors, health code inspectors, and innumerable other public goods provided by people in agencys that work to prevent disaster or just llousy living/working enviorments from taking root. There is even a department that makes certin that no historic buildings are demolished and in fact helps inshure they are properly maintatined. Miami aside NY would be sunk with out most of our Zoning laws, no need to impune the people doning mostly good work in most places because of some overzelous enforcement of silly local legislation. If the Zoning laws in your area are excedingly bad, you have leagal and civic recourse; if the court fails you go to your ellected official, they love that sort of thing, or run for local office.
the link to the german wikipedia is wrong and should be changed. i don't know how it's done or i'd do it. the wrong link goes to "raumplanung", which is spacial planning and which is done at the federal and provincial / state levels. the correct linkt must go to "bebauungsplanung" which is done at the local level. Sundar1 11:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
i figured it out! Sundar1 11:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
