Talk:Boris Yeltsin

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Contents 1 Yeltsin became Russian President in July 1991 2 In seventh grade at school he had two fingers on his left hand blown off by a grenade 3 Yeltsin died in 1999? 4 Life after resignation 5 Yeltsin and Alcohol 6 Early life 7 Religion? 8 NPOV? 9 Yeltsin drunk 10 Elvis link 11 Was this guy an oligarch? 12 Grammar 13 Full text not displayed after editing section 14 Image 15 Life after resignation 16 Conflict with the parliament in 1993 17 Poverty 18 Value of chalet? 19 Logical breach 20 He's dead?

[edit] Yeltsin became Russian President in July 1991

Primo: Yeltsin became Russian President in July 1991, and Ivashko was acting secretary general in August Secundo: Ivashko wasn't Soviet Union leader, only acting party leader for few days after Gorbachev resignation

See Talk:Mikhail Gorbachev re:his predecessor. When there are only two entries, I don't think the navigation bar is useful at all. --Jiang 19:49, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

See Talk:Mikhail Gorbachev. Mikkalai 20:56, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Disagree. Many millons of people may not know there are only two entries. Shouldn't wikipedia inform them? Why have a prime minister X page if when we mention prime minister X in a different entry we can't link to it? Illogical. Moriori 21:43, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

Just noticed there's been a bit of to and froing re content on this page. Wasn't my intention to join in, just to try to make the entry better. I'm outta here (this page). Moriori 21:49, Mar 3, 2004 (UTC)

prime minister X page discusses the duties of the office, not the person. The purpose of the navigation bar is so people can read a bunch of entries in succession. There's no such need here and Boris Yeltsin did not succeed Gorbachev - Gorbachev was never President of Russia. --Jiang 07:48, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Discuss before reverting, please. --Jiang 06:29, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

[edit] In seventh grade at school he had two fingers on his left hand blown off by a grenade

In seventh grade at school he had two fingers on his left hand blown off by a grenade.

What is seventh grade? Edward 20:28, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

The seventh year of primary school eduction, usually around the age of 12.

[edit] Yeltsin died in 1999?

Russian "yellow" press back in 1999 speculated whether Yeltsin died before/during/or after the heart surgery in August 1999. And that he was replaced by a double (look-alike) on August 7th, 1999. I've read several articles about it in Russian: some of them sounded totally schizophrenic, whilst some others seem very logical and almost convincing. But, unfortunately, the photos that accompanied some of those articles were not so convincing. Yes, they show certain differences in ear shape, physiognomy features, but it's not very obvious on those low-quality photos that I saw. It could be just some editing in Photoshop, or simply an effect of different lightning and camera angle. Generally speaking, I think it could very well be true because I personally noticed myself how Yeltsin's manner of speech has changed after the surgery.

He didn't die. He attended his 75th birthday this yeat, attending it with government officials.

Why did I suddenly remember about it five years later?

First, I got reminded about it because several days ago (on July 21, 2004), there was an article in "New York Times" written by Stephen Sestanovich from US State Department. He mentions the fact that CIA agents from Moscow back then sent a message to CIA headquarters informing that Yeltsin has died. And later backtracked it...

Second, it's about him disappearing from public life. This is weird. You can see Gorbatchev appearing on Russian TV almost every week, giving interviews, appearing in commercials. Yeltsin is totally gone. He does not appear on TV, does not give any interviews, does not write any memoirs and is not even planning to do that. It's extremely unusual. I can't think of any other big leaders who were like that. Maybe, some Roman emperor?

This info is solely for discussion purposes, because, of course, it does not make sense to include on an encyclopedia page some stuff which only appeared in a couple Russian tabloids. rydel 12:42, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Life after resignation

Ha, so he is a drunkered. That may explain how he can be able to live without feeling guilty of the number of life he has destroyed with his mis guided actions. Sure, the freaking communist government canned anybody who tried to be vocal, but at least there was only 2% of the population living in poverty.. Now, a solid 40% a living in poverty and if life isn't broken by Mafia within Russia, then they forced prostitution in West Europe will do you in. Thanks again for going along with IMF and Wall street. And thank you also Western government and media for standing firm along the Mafia who sold out their citizen

I agree. I think the Soviet Union would've did very well after that whole "cold war" thing. Now the women are being prostituted, exploited, and systematically ruined by foreignors. Ever hear of mail order bride businesses? The ugly side of Capitalism. They exchange women for money, and then they are subjected to perverts in the US, and elsewhere. It's all very true, very documented. I'm actually a US citizen, I just think the system here is horrible. I'd like to give Participatory Economics a go. Crud3w4re 08:21, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yeltsin and Alcohol

An aquaintance attended a state reception where Yeltsin was the guest of honor. The table was laid out in such a way that each guest had several drinking glasses, the smallest (a shot glass) ranging through wine glasses, brandy glass and a large glass for water. When the vodka came around and the waiter tried to pour Yeltsin a vodka into the shot glass, Yelstin covered it with his hand, grabbed the water glass, raising it the waiter, and said "I only drink from this one tonight!". He got it filled with Vodka. What a guy. Commking 2 October 2005

[edit] Early life

Just added small piece of trivia about how yeltsin lost his fingers in an accident involving a grenade.

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[edit] Religion?

What was boris yelstin's religion?doles 18:26, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Eastern Orthodox. He was baptised as he was an infant and he has labelled himself an orthodox christian. Constanz 17:15, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV?

I don't see any discussion here on NPOV, removing tag from article. Ckampmeier 08:01, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yeltsin drunk

Must the part about his half clothed, pizza driven wanderings be included? It is unnecessarily mocking of Yeltsin's personal life.

Allegations of alcoholism belong in this article [1] Andries 18:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elvis link

Are we sure that that link about him being an Elvis fan isn't a joke? The page doesn't seem reputable. 128.175.205.52 04:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Was this guy an oligarch?

It might be worth it to specificly say that he was a member of an oligarchy and not just mention asking for pizza in underpants... Dzerzhinsky 13:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar

The article needs quite a bit of revision, focusing on grammar and proper sentence structure. There are also a host of spelling mistakes that should be corrected. Cumulus Clouds 01:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I think this article is horribly written.

[edit] Full text not displayed after editing section

Something went wrong when I was editing a section - all the text after that section was not displayed on the page after I saved. I tried pasting it back in, but it's still not displayed. The full text of the article plus all categories and other language pages etc are still in the edit box - just not displaying. I've asked at the help desk already - Wikipedia:Help_desk#Full_text_not_displaying_after_editing_article_section. —Maiya 15:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

The main image has been removed by OrphanBot and will soon be deleted unless its original source is found. I have put up another image to save the article from being imageless, feel free to replace it if you find a better one.--Konst.able 07:43, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Life after resignation

This section doesn't seem very neutral to me. The tone of the article seems definitely accusatory, as if the author has made up his mind and wishes to convince the reader; I guess it also carries over from the end of the previous section, which seems to ramp up its anti-Yeltsin bias near the end. I'm putting the non-NPOV tag back for that section only. It could use a good editing.--Roland 17:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I hope that Boris Yeltsin gets burned at the stake as he deserves. He's a thief of the worst kind.

[edit] Conflict with the parliament in 1993

The story on Yeltsin's actions in 1993 sounds a bit biased. As soon as the author mentiones a historical event, especially such a controversial one, the tale should include description of the activities of both sides of the conflict. From the currently published piece one may conclude that Yeltsin was a child-eating beast who attacked a flock of angels. Not a word about MPs leading crowds of people to invade the national TV station, or vice-president Rutskoi trying to send Air Force to bomb the Kremlin, or many other things. Yuniq 20:19, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

It looked accurate to me. Crud3w4re 08:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poverty

Should it be noted that he's oftetimes the guy Russians blame for their misfortunes? There was 2% poverty in the SU, now it's up to 40%, and their GDP never recovered. I think that there should be some mention of public opinion of him in Russia. He really isn't liked at all, that I know. Crud3w4re 08:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Value of chalet?

They also allegedly own a villa in France worth US$11 million, a chalet in Courchevel, France worth €.5 million

The villa is worth 11 million and the chalet 0.5 million? Is it really half a million or should it be 5 million?71.32.56.91 18:31, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logical breach

"He was fond of sports (in particular skiing, gymnastics, volleyball, track and field, boxing and wrestling) despite losing two fingers when he and some friends snuck into a Red Army supply depot, stole several grenades, and tried to dissect them."

This doesn't quite make sense, as sports and "trying to dissect grenades" are not related as such. Rephrase?

[edit] He's dead?

Either the AP and Reuters are taking Sunday off or some joker listed that Yeltsin died January 17th of this year on the template. I'm removing it. - Throw 00:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)