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Contents 1 Versus is a latin phrase 2 Trailer? 3 Completion 4 Characters 5 Protagonist's Name

[edit] Versus is a latin phrase

Yeah... Unlike "Aeris" or perhapth "Aerith", Versus is a word that exists in English, and in English it means opposed to... I know the FF creators were all into opera and knew a bit of latin, but I doubt they were that deep to name it versus because they were changing the direction of the series... I could be wrong, though... I was wrong one other time.WhateverTS 01:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

They stated it during the press release when they first announced it and also in several interviews. I don't want to surprise you, but English isn't the only foreign language people know about in Japan, so it should come as no surprise that they choose a latin word or phrase over an English one. Also it appears that they have some sort of latin specialst in their staff, as he's done Japanese -> Latin translations of song lyrics for the composers. WtW-Suzaku 09:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Nomura stated in an interview that both the English and Latin meanings of "versus" apply to the game. Machinamar 15:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Any particular reason why we have that little latin translation just put there?.... Its real charming to know what a latin word means, but maybe someone should bother to edit the page and expain WHY it is relevant to the article? Pstanton 02:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Probably because all the other FFXIII games have Latin words interjected into their titles with an explanation provided by Square Enix?--Claude 05:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trailer?

The article says "image from the trailer". There haven't been no FFV13 trailer if i recall...

Well you recall wrong then—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big Boss Inc. (talk • contribs).

It hasn't been leaked to the internet yet.—ウルタプ 13:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

But the picture that is shown on the page is actually a screenshot; whether there is a trailer or not, that picture itself is from one of the many pictures that were released during E3.

And it's a screenshot of trailer.--Claude 07:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The real question, I think, is where can we see the trailer online? It looks to be as gorgeous as the main Final Fantasy XIII and many want to see it. If it's not on the internet then we'll just have to wait for it. This in no way means the trailer doesn't exist.(SilverFalcon 18:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC))

The trailer is going to be shown on the Japanese Square-Enix Members Only site on December 8th. They're currently showing the Crisis Core trailer for a limited time before Jump Festa. Go register now if you want to see it. WtW-Suzaku 09:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

How do you know that WtW? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikipedia is for Queers (talk • contribs) 13:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

To the above: http://rpgfan.com/news/2006/1579.html Machinamar 15:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.33.113.84 (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

It didn't seem that you needed to join. I tried to join but it says that the verification email would be sent within a week. Just enough time for the trailer to go poof. In any case, here's a link to the trailer http://www.square-enix.com/jp/members/special/ffv13_01/member_movie.cgi Once again, it didn't seem to require any sort of login. This trailer is available with lesser quality on YouTube as well. (SilverFalcon 15:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC))

There seems to be a glitch on the Square Enix site. I was able to view the trailer twice but when I returned the member login page came up. I tried again later and the trailer site was back. It seems to be an on again and off again sort of thing. The link to the trailer on YouTube was already posted in External Links. There is no difference except for the quality. (SilverFalcon 15:57, 8 December 2006 (UTC))

That was seriously one of the coolest trailers I've ever seen, I can't wait for this game to come out. Yea I think there is something wrong with the Square Enix site too, so I just watched it on Youtube, the one I found had really good quality though.--67.174.128.249 7:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

So was the new trailer that was shown at Jump Festa made available to the public?--User:Soccerguy1039

[edit] Completion

There has been much dispute as to whether the game's completion is 1 or 1.3%. This only confuses the people and so I think that it should either not be included in the page, or say something like, it is arguable whether the game's completion is 1 or 1.3%.--User:Soccerguy1039

I think no one cares enough for it to be included. Obviously, in a few weeks, that figure will change and it's not necessary to be reported every time it's mentioned. The final article after the game is released won't have anything of the sort, so why should it now? Axem Titanium 19:57, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Axem, it's really not that big of a deal so it might as well just not be included in it, but some people might want to know so it might be a good idea to put it's maybe 1.15% complete, that way it's an inbetween. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.128.249 (talk • contribs).

Wow, that's even worse. It shouldn't be included at all since it is basically pointless info. It's at 1% completion. So what? Knowing how far a game is to completion doesn't help anybody because they can't do anything about it. Axem Titanium 21:01, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually the game's completion is at 1.3%, not 1%.--User:Soccerguy1039

As I said: NO ONE CARES. It's not notable enough for inclusion, especially since it's changing as we speak. Axem Titanium 03:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Well Axem if it's not notable then just delete it from the page, otherwise stop complaining.--User:Soccerguy1039

Then stop adding it! Seriously, you're the one who's adding it constantly, not me. I've been removing it each time. Axem Titanium 22:42, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Have you forgotten that I said the completion is 1.3%, why would I put 1% if I know that's wrong? My account's not old enough for me to be able to remove it, so if you just delete it then I wont care.

AH SOMEBODY JUST GET RID OF IT! I'm so tired of hearing about it, and by now the percents pretty different so it doesn't even make a difference anymore.

I'll tell you what Axem, if you just get rid of it I'll leave the Fabula Nova Crystallis page alone, but if you don't then I'll continue adding to it.

Get rid of what? Many editors have been getting rid of your stupid 1.3% thing over the past few days but you keep adding it for some reason. Axem Titanium 03:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

That's what I'm talking about, if you get rid of the 1% on this page, then I'll stop adding that stuff on the Fabula Nova Crystallis page.

It's gone. Are you happy now? Now please either go away or make some constructive additions to Wikipedia rather than vandalising pages with false information. Axem Titanium 04:14, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes I am happy, and it's not called vandalism when you're adding factual information, but I will leave the Fabula Nova Crystallis page alone as agreed, as long as the 1% stays off this page.

Which is why it's factual, and not vandalism.--Claude 05:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I've request Unprotection for the pages, now that you have agreed to stop editing. Just out of interest - how do you know it's 13% / 1.3%? Don't just quote FF Insider, actually tell us how you know so (given that in the photo it says 3% / 1%). SynergyBlades 17:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I know that it's at the completions I've stated multiple times because I've checked several websites, and just stated the one I know best since the others I'd never used before. And that's why the information is factual. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.57.145 (talk • contribs).

Then you have to cite the source (something you should have learned in middle school so as to prevent plagiarism). Since you didn't cite any sources, it is original research. Also, FFI is not a reliable source and therefore cannot be cited. Axem Titanium 04:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Well every bit of info I've ever looked up on FFI has been correct, plus there were 2 or 3 other sources that said the same completions. And my middle school didn't make us cite any sources since they had a good web searcher to check if you just downloaded the paper.

Doesn't matter. FFI has no authority on the subject matter of FFXIII's completion. There are two completion percentages floating around the internet, and neither one of them are official or confirmed in any shape or form.--Claude 08:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually it does matter, FFI is reliable, so shut up.

How about no, not reliable, so shut up.--Claude 06:42, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

It's very reliable, there's a reason that wikipedia is known as not very reliable among gamers you know, so you're the unreliable one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.57.145 (talk • contribs).

Shut up, it doesn't matter and this arguments pointless. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.57.145 (talk • contribs).

If the argument is pointless, then why continue arguing about it and deleting people's posts? Just let it rest, kid. EvilReborn 22:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not in on the argument, I just got in and said something to shut them up cause they're being retarded, and that was the first time I deleted any posts, I can't let racist comments be up in our discussion page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.57.145 (talk • contribs).

That's 8 deletions. And "racist comments" too now, eh? Even though there were none as I've checked every edit. Somebody pass me the popcorn, this kid's hilarious. :) SynergyBlades 00:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

This is like a movie: someone says something reasonable, then someone else says something extremely ridiculous over and over and over. Oh, and SynergyBlades: don't expect your comments to stay around too long. Every day this kid deletes ones he doesn't like. And "OMG ADD THE PERCENTAGE YOU n00bZ" kid: deal with it. There are no official numbers on the completion. If everyone who reads the FF Versus XIII article doesn't know it's at 3% or 13% or 1.3% or whatever they report, nobody cares. It's a difference of a couple of months, tops and that's way in the future. And while you're at it, try learning some correct grammar—"up in our discussion page" isn't. EvilReborn 02:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you tell us what somebody said that was racist? I didn't see anything either.

Oh and Synergy I'm pretty sure those were my deletions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.128.249 (talk • contribs).

I'll give you a hint about what he said that was racist, I'm left handed.

Wow, you're not very smart. At all. You keep deleting comments you don't like then pull things out of your ass about racist comments. And you think you can comment about retardation. Just...wow. I haven't been this entertained by someone's antics on wiki in a long time.--Claude 10:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

That's not cool Claude, I wanted to hear that joke, and I can since my parents are from Taiwan.

That doesn't mean that he can tell racist jokes, if you want to hear the joke have him tell you it some other way. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikipedia is for Queers (talk • contribs) 13:21, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

First, stop having conversations with yourself. It's strangely entertaining, but you weren't fooling anyone the first time you did it, and you're not fooling anyone now. If it wasn't obvious from checking the history, then the bot blew the cover off of your genius plan when you decided not to sign your comments. Second, that's the THIRD time you removed my comment from the talk page, which is an offense. You're working towards a quick block, aren't you? Third, making false accusations about racists comments is also an offense, I'm sure. Next time you might want to tell those kinds of lies on a site that doesn't have a full history of the page and its edits.--Claude 04:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

First off I don't talk to myself, the other guy might be talking to himself but not me, and fine I'll start signing my comments if it'll make you happy. I just think it's a waste of time since you can check the history if you really want to know who said what.--67.174.128.249 5:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I still want to know what that guy said that was racist, don't you guys?--67.174.128.249 8:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I already told you, I'm left handed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.120.57.145 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Characters

Whatever happened to the characters section of the article?--67.174.128.249 8:09, 10, December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know about the rest of you but I'd like to know what happened to it.--67.174.128.249 3:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Whatever since you guys are ignoring me I just re-added it.--67.174.128.249 7:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I think some kid said it was just saying what was in the trailer and wasn't actually about the characters so he deleted it. --User:Soccerguy1039

[edit] Protagonist's Name

Has anybody else heard that the protagonist's name is Night? Cause I haven't found that anywhere. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.128.249 (talk • contribs).

No, I haven't seen that used anywhere. I think that whoever added that was basing it off of something they heard; it's unsourced and I've seen no support for that anywhere. EvilReborn 21:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

About the soldiers, it says that they are rumored to be from Pulse, but isn't Pulse a part of the world from Final Fantasy XIII?--User:Soccerguy1039

Yes. Final Fantasy XIII and FF Versus XIII exist in the same worlds, albeit with different characters and time periods. Oh, and good job--you actually signed your name. EvilReborn 22:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

That was really stupid, were you trying to sound cool just now?--User:Soccerguy1039

No, simply answering your question. EvilReborn 14:30, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

No, you were trying to sound cool but ended up sounding like a retard.--User:Soccerguy1039

You're one to talk. EvilReborn 21:28, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Not exactly. "As Square Enix explained, the trio is linked through a common mythology but do not have any common characters, worlds, or stories. They all take place in the same universe, but aren't related to each other directly". [1] SynergyBlades 21:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

The protagonist's name has not been confirmed yet by Square-Enix. I haven't heard Night yet, but I have heard "Storm," "Sutomu," and something like "Sawayana." Many fans have adopted TEK (That Emo Kid) or TREK (The Red-Eyed Kid) as his unofficial nickname. Machinamar 15:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

So then shouldn't we take out the part about the soldiers supposedly being from Pulse? And I don't think that the name Storm really needs to be in there right now since there's no evidence backing it up.--67.174.128.249

Who keeps putting that the main character's name might be Storm? That's pure speculation with nothing to back it up and doesn't belong in the article.--Emokid200618 17:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

The upcoming video game template clearly says that the article "is likely to contain information of a speculative nature." The main character's name is a rather important piece of information which should be included, whether speculation or not. And concerning the claim of it being "pure speculation with nothing to back it up": as the article stated, Nomura has named several major characters after natural phenomena. Therefore, I think that information should stay in the article. Others: what's your take on it? EvilReborn 00:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

…Just because something very well might be doesn’t mean we have the right to say it is.—ウルタプ 01:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

All of the other speculation involved in the article have some sort of evidence backing it up. Other than Tetsuya having in the past named many characters after natural phenomena there is nothing to back it up, and just because he has a habit doesn't mean that all characters he designs will be named after natural phenomena, and therefore should be left out of the article.--Emokid200618 00:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Point taken. I see what you're saying: it's not important enough nor does it have enough evidence to back it up. EvilReborn 01:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)