Talk:History of the Long Island Rail Road

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Thank you, NE2 for catching the references and other important paraphernalia. The split seems mostly done, a little quicker than I feared it might be. This is something like the fourth or fifth split I've done, and by far the biggest. Fortunately the big article was already very neatly laid out, so keeping it neat wasn't terribly diffiuclt. In the next few hours I'll go over the now small LIRR article, and see whether any other bits ought to be moved, copied or otherwise patched, but probably you're way ahead of me in every way. Jim.henderson 02:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it might actually make the most sense to place fleet in a new article; there is a lot that can be added but that I'm not interested in. --NE2 02:30, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Still a big article

Yes, a lot of fans love the rail more than the choo-choo. This article still exceeds guideline by some 60% but that's not so important for a topic that people only read for love rather than practical information on how to get to Cedarhurst. If someone actually adds a lot more rolling stock, then certainly a new article for it would become appropriate. As it is, the fleet material is quite slim. If we really wanted to slim down the article to fit the guidelines, the red links for South Side and other predecessors would point out the places to move several fat sections into. This work would require more knowledge of substance than I've got; my ignorance of railroading suits me better to deal with questions of style. Jim.henderson 02:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually there's a lot to say about those predecessors; I only included a paragraph on each to give the basics. --NE2 03:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Goodness yes, much can be said. Already the article goes well beyond the conventional encyclopedia formula of just hitting the high points. Its more a matter (sorry, my apostrophe key is stuck) of how much fun it is to write. Were it vital to fit the length guidelines, then the B&J article, now a stub, could accept almost all that the present article says on that line. The late 19th century could be moved into the Tobin biographical article, one or three articles could cover the various Flushing railroads, the tunnel articles could soak up nearly all data about Manhattan, and otherwise things could be moved out from this fat article.

But often an article, like a railroad under construction, has one guiding spirit driving it, and for this one it isnt me, so I shall butt out except where there is a clear need, as there was a need to split off the history from the railroad article. Oh, and three sentences for the History section of the railroad article was my plan, too. One for 19th century, one for Pennsy and its tunnels, and one for MTA. Anyway it is done, and at least as well done as I could have. Jim.henderson 16:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Names of lines in 1877

This information is from Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Long Island, August 22, 1877, page 1 and [1]. --NE2 00:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Main Line: Hunter's Point to Greenport
- unnamed: Mineola to Hempstead
- Glen Cove Branch: Mineola to Locust Valley
- Port Jefferson Branch or Smithtown and Port Jefferson Branch: Hicksville to Port Jefferson
- Sag Harbor Branch: Manor to Sag Harbor
Southern Railroad of Long Island Division, Southern Railroad Division, or Southern Division: Hunter's Point of Bushwick to Patchogue
- unnamed: Valley Stream to Hempstead
Flushing, North Shore and Central Division or Flushing, North Shore and Central Railroad Division: Hunter's Point to Great Neck or Belmont Junction
- Great Neck Branch: Flushing to Great Neck
- Woodside Branch: Woodside to Whitestone
- Central Branch: Flushing to Belmont Junction
  - unnamed: to Hempstead
Rockaway Division or Rockaway Branch: Valley Stream to Rockaway Beach
Atlantic Avenue Division, Atlantic Avenue Branch, Atlantic Avenue Railroad Branch, or Brooklyn Division: Flatbush Avenue to Jamaica