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Contents 1 Maiden covers performed by other bands 2 Archived 3 Logo/Band Picture 4 News Item Inappropriately Included in Article 5 Made In Tribute: A Tribute To The Best In A Whole Goddamn World! 6 2007 Tour and some other things 7 Infobox image 8 All CD's creates an artwork 9 Genre(s) 10 Too many dividers? 11 Significant Edits Imminent

[edit] Maiden covers performed by other bands

Since a lot of bands seem to have covered songs by Maiden, I'd suggest a section which lists all these. A seperate article would be fine too. I guess they are very likely to increase so an a seperate article would be good.

Here are some i could think of now:

• aces high - children of bodom
  
• children of the damned - therion
  
• Fear Of The Dark - graveworm
  
• Flight Of Icarus - etos
  
• powerslave - darkane (mistagged a lot as CoB)
  
• the trooper - CoF
  
• wasted years - helloween (couldn't confirm this)
  

all songs from, A tribute to the beast album all songs from, The Piano Tribute to Iron Maiden album and Numbers From The Beast album

there'll definitely be lots more —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.1.192.6 (talk) 21:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC).

There already is a page dedicated to them (check the bottom of the page) -TheHande 10:14, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I can't see this seperate page you're talking about. I can only see "Numbers From The Beast" and "Piano Tribute" mentioned under "See also". IMO, there's enough Maiden covers to make a separate article for it.

[edit] Archived

It was high time to archive the talk page. -TheHande 10:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Logo/Band Picture

Should I add the bands previous logos and pictures of the band line-up over the years in the biography section? And shouldn't the main picture be the band's current logo and a screenshot of the band from their latest album? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Defunct Lies (talk • contribs) 22:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] News Item Inappropriately Included in Article

Why is there a press announcement under Download 2007?
"Following the official announcement this evening on BBC Radio 1's Zane Lowe show"
Can anyone confirm the actual date of this? --Chrisirwin 18:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Made In Tribute: A Tribute To The Best In A Whole Goddamn World!

http://www.discogs.com/release/384453

Shouldn't that album "Made In Tribute: A Tribute To The Best In A Whole Goddamn World!" be mentioned? It's a Maiden cover album by various death/black metal atists. I couldn't find it mentioned in the article (didn't read it all, just checked a bit). :p

[edit] 2007 Tour and some other things

Figured it made sense to refer to the new tour as a tour not 'download and the odd other gig' since that's what it is and that's what Maiden's calling it.

Lets divide up history a bit better. Firstly we can slap dates on it. I think for now the basic thing ('creation' 'early success' 'golden age' 'experimentation' 'decline' 'reunion') is fine...but lets clearly divide it into eras a bit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Elfoid (talk • contribs) 00:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Infobox image

Wheres Nicko? Hopefully a free use image can be obtained with the entire band.--E tac 11:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Or Bruce, for that matter. I'm going to see if I can find a free image to replace it. --Mark ^(Talk) 17:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Why was the old one removed? I thought that was preety fine190.48.29.68 22:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

The old one wasn't fair use. A user who is currently blocked from editing Wikipedia evaded his block to try and re-insert it with a false edit summary about being administrator approved. But it was still a policy vio and was reverted. Free use images will always win out over images that are fair use. If a better pic is desired then someone will have to go out and take one themselves. 156.34.221.2 23:18, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] All CD's creates an artwork

Okay, my english sucks so this will maybe suck but I hope that you will understand. If you have all Iron Maiden cd's and in order so you can see the back of the record sleeves, doesn't that form some kind of artwork? --Jocke666 13:39, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, with the 1998 remastered editions. It's a closeup drawing of Eddie. Hardly important enough to be put into the article though. -Mark ^(Talk) 15:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

It might be worth adding to the Iron Maiden discography article though, it would be better than having the Different World single cover on it on the top.--E tac 21:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre(s)

I think we need to have somewhat of a vote on what genres Iron Maiden fall into, as there seems to be a lot of arguing on the page. I think the three current genres sum Maiden up best - Heavy metal, NWOBHM and Hard Rock. The other ones that are repeatedly cropping up are progressive metal, classic metal, power metal and speed metal, although I especially disagree with the last two. Thoughts? --Mark ^(Talk) 15:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I go for Heavy metal and NWOBHM only. Iron Maiden have a lot of influences from other genres, and some of their songs have elements that incidentally could be labeled as progressive metal, classic metal, speed metal and Hard Rock, but those influences should stay out of a strict genre definition. Additionally, I think both terms are the universally recognised main genres where the band is usually labeled, thus being excellent candidates for consensus -- · Ravenloft · ^{· (talk) ·} 19:07, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

HM and NWOBHM are enough. The rest are either false or just simple superfluity. 156.34.222.15 19:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with both of you. --Mark ^(Talk) 22:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I think Iron Maiden are heavy metal, at their core. That's the only one we NEED up there. Anything else is a nicety. Them and Def Leppard are the only real survivors of NWOBHM and both have changed hugely since then - we can't really judge if they fit any kind of mould for 'NWOBHM survivors) so they fit in there. It means I think they must have the 'classic metal' tag though too - as genre definers.

Iron Maiden's never really done anything hard rock. Some Virtual XI could be called it, but nothing else. The album's un-characteristic sound for the band, low sales, experimental nature and the fact that it only JUST could be called hard rock means I don't think so. Speed metal too...Be Quick or Be Dead's bloody fast, but other than that, The Trooper, Aces High and Run to the Hills I can't think of any.

A Matter of Life and Death is a progressive metal album in a lot of ways. The X Factor, Virtual XI, Brave New World and Dance of Death all had elements of it too.

NWOBHM, Classic metal, progressive metal and heavy (The Elfoid 09:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC))

Infact, after more thought...let's divide it up by era. List NWOBHM/Punk-Metal (early material), classic/heavy metal, progressive metal (recent material) (The Elfoid 13:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

Heavy metal and NWOBHM are the only 2 genres that should be in the infobox. Technically NWOBHM isn't even a genre - it's an era, but IM are tied to it so closely that it might as well stay. Classic metal is one of those "teenage twit" genre labels invented to try and appease young people who can't grasp that heavy metal started in the 60s and not the 80s. Prog metal shouldn't be used simply because the band have never played Prog metal in their entire career. Keep it simple it's just an infobox. Heavy metal/NWOBHM and that's it. Fair Deal 14:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Totally agree with the above; keep it as Heavy metal and NWOBHM. It's template guidelines to give the most general genres and discuss others the band may be associated with in the article to avoid confusion. ĤĶ51→^Łalk 21:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too many dividers?

I think that splitting it up album by album's too much. I also think that it should be split up differently. While I am aware Dickinson's arrival was the most important lineup change, I think 'Early Days' should cover the first three albums. Following this we should have the Piece of Mind - Seventh Son lineup's albums. I know it only removes one divider, but I still think it would be a valid change.

If people approve this, perhaps others too? We could easily put Iron Maiden/Killers under one heading, Piece of Mind/Powerslave, Somewhere in Time/Seventh Son, No Prayer for the Dying/Fear of the Dark and The X Factor/Virtual XI. Why? There's few major changes during those times, particularly to the band's sound. Since the reunion is worth of it's own paragraph and the newest album (it's their most critically acclaimed since Seventh Son, and sales are the highest they've been in a long time) too I suppose Dance of Death should get one. Unless someone thinks we can stick it into the 'reunion' paragraph.

Early Days, Classic Era, Troubled Times, The Blaze Bayley Era, Reunion and A Matter of Life and Death/Recent Events as dividers?

(The Elfoid 00:27, 8 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Significant Edits Imminent

Just a forewarning - I'm gonna make this article less biased and more streamlined towards IMPORTANT details since it's bloated a bit. One paragraph per album is excessive given they each have their own page. (The Elfoid 19:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC))