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Contents 1 External links 2 Illegal rips 3 Man or Penguin? 4 Fansites 5 Category? 6 The New Version 7 Toronto Star article 8 User Box 9 Glitch Section? 10 Copied from linerider.ca 11 New update? 12 How to draw a straight line 13 Curves 14 Nintendo DS and Wii versions coming 15 Official Version out 16 Something to be fixed 17 Zada? 18 "Boštjan Čadež of InXile Entertainment" 19 More Pictures- Techniques 20 "Official LineRider" 21 Want it on the Wii? 22 Features 23 Protection 24 Official-Linerider.com Version 25 Nintendo DS and Wii 26 Vandalism 27 Line Rider is NOT a penguin 28 GDC Award

[edit] External links

After adding some information regarding copycat flash games and a few external links to them, I noticed that in previous edits, one of these links (Line Flyer) had been added and then later removed. I think that the addition of context for these links make them a reasonable addition to the article now. If for no other reason, the existence of these copycat/hacked versions act as evidence of the popularity of the original. Thoughts on this? Seph Vellius 08:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

If any of the copycats becomes noteworthy enough to have its own article, then the external link should be added to that article. Linking to copycats here doesn't appear to fall within WP:EL. -- JHunterJ 20:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I changed my mind on the matter after the discussion below. In fact, although I continue to believe these copycats should be mentioned, anything above that, including screen captures of them, should not. --Seph Vellius 05:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I added Line Rider "Die at the Slopes", by far the most popular clip, with currently 668,363 views. NauticaShades 18:13, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Most popular YouTube video does not meet WP:EL either, though. Reverted -- JHunterJ 13:42, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Due to the excessive vandalism in the last few days, I only recently noticed the addition of Unofficial Community into the external links section. Has this been left in the article because it is generally accepted as meeting WP:EL, or should it be removed? If there is no opinion one way or another, I intend to remove it. --Seph Vellius 17:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Note: There should also be a warning about Porn links on the game now. I can't let my 11 year old play the game anymore because of the Porn ads. Thanks a lot!

cool porn let him try it

I added a link to - a top ten linerider videos, as its a great place for people to actually see some of the best linerider videos around...so therefore relevant. It was removed. The site has no advertising and the list was compiled on the linerider.org forum, so is a useful tool for those wishing to discover and understand what linerider is. there is no copyright violation as the videos are embedded from youtube, where they were added by those who created them, and the creator is cited. I think it fits WP:EL

AS I've had no response to the bit above. I'm going to add in again the link to lineriders...if you remove it please explain why. thanks

[edit] Illegal rips

Lineflyer is an illegal rip, meant to bring in money for the site owner through ads. I think they should not be linked to on principle.

In that case, perhaps the link should be removed, but discussion and acknowledgement of its existence, and the existence of other copycats, should remain. Seph Vellius 18:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I removed the direct link to LineFlyer and added a note about the legality of the copycat versions.

It seems someone (the owner of LineFlyer?) keeps reverting the page, removing the note about questionable legality and restoring the link to lineflyer.com.

I believe the wikibot, while correcting some obvious vandalism, reverted the article to a point prior to the addition of the legality comment. I don't believe anyone has intentionally harmed this article beyond that obvious vandalism case. Seph Vellius 08:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps the illegal rips, particularly LineFlyer, are getting a little too much attention in this article compaired to the original game? I don't think a normal game like, say Mario, would have image examples of its flash copies in its article. --Seph Vellius 05:55, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Another copycat is linerider.com while it isn't a rip it does host a copy unoffically with out the original authors permission Atomic1fire 00:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right to say that Mario games wouldn't have links to the flash clones. The clones probably wouldn't even be mentioned. kevipapo.

[edit] Man or Penguin?

I noticed that the game description changed the protagonist from "man" to "penguin." Since the original creator hasn't specifically noted whether the geometrcally simple character is a penguin or not I substituted "penguin" for the more universal description "character." That way the article is correct regardless of what the creator intends the figure to be. Seph Vellius 06:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't be 100% I think he is supposed to be a man. The proportions are wrong for a penguin with his long arms and legs. I can't remember fsk calling him "a penguin" or "the penguin" in all the time we discussed the game on irc. "Character" sounds nicer than "man" or "guy" anyway... Jheriko 12:22, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fansites

I would like to add a link to a fansite (the only one I believe) for Line Rider and have already, but it has been taken down. The site is free and does not receive revenue from ads so by putting the link there I do not consider it advertising. I know that fansites in general are looked down upon, but when there is no harm to come from putting the link up I don't see why this is unacceptable.

LineRiders 19:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The WP:EL guidelines are against adding that one three ways: links to sites you own, links intended to promote a site, and fanlists. One downside is that the next editor with a fansite will feel justified in adding his or hers as well, as will the next, and so on. On the other hand, if there are many fansites, the guidelines do allow for listing one, the most popular, but that condition does not appear to be met yet. -- JHunterJ 12:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

The most popular fansite by far is www.linerider.org, I think www.linerider.de is another. But if you look you will see that linerider.org gets by far the most traffic. Is it now suitable for the external link to be added? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.34.81.175 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 12 November 2006 (UTC).

Are there "many" fansites? -- JHunterJ 11:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

How many fansites is many? -- Lumb 17:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Lineriderfun.com is another one. -- A person.

And linerider.ca, but there's an official site out now, at official-linerider.com. Frizzle 16:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category?

Should this be put into the deviantART category? That's where it originated. SteveCentra 20:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Seems reasonable to me. --Seph Vellius 12:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Added. 203.214.64.55 13:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The New Version

Although obviously "anticipated", are the features listed for the next game based on any particular evidence, or just random speculation? --Rai 23:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Most of the anticipated features come from a list provided by Line Rider's creator, Boštjan Čadež, on DeviantART [1]. The addition of future hack prevention is based on his comments explaining the delay of the new release. --Seph Vellius 04:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

There is some kind of new evrsion on linerider.org when you click play, click the bit where it says "do you want to play the new version?"

The new features are: Some pencil thing which I don't know what it does; An acceleration line; An eraser; A flag marker; A zoom-in/out feature.

Yes, fsk has made comments about planning to add desired features such as erasers and other tools. Also, on virtually every discussion about linerider updates, those things are ones that are wanted (I don't know how to cite that though). Also, the new pencil in Line Rider Zada is the scenery pencil. It allows things to be drawn without them affecting the character. Tere is also a line snap feature and a straight line feature. -da newb

[edit] Toronto Star article

A new article about Line Rider has appeared in the Toronto Star:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1163890209760

Added to external links - Lumb 17:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User Box

I've created a line rider userbox. Putting {{User Line Rider}} will result in

--Pacaman! 19:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Glitch Section?

I'm a new user, and would like to check if it would be okay to add a section about a glitch I found with the physics engine and so that other users may place information pertaining to other glitches that may benefit people reading this article.

KLink-NiN10col/Neotendo123 23:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I think that would be OK. SteveCentra 12:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copied from linerider.ca

The "update" from linerider.org is almost an exact copy of an earlier update from linerider.ca. Should we link to linerider.ca instead?

[edit] New update?

On his journal, *fsk (Boštjan Čadež) has said that the new "update" is NOT an actual update, but another clone made without his permission. Should we re-word the section? Perhaps remove it all together? It sounds like someone from linerider.org hyping his site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.237.164.90 (talk) 22:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

I think that we shouldn't confuse the official update with ZaDa. For example, we don't know that the acceleration lines wil be red in the official version.

Or even if there will be acceleration lines. - da newb

[edit] How to draw a straight line

Hi, I'm new to this discussion. I'd like to point out that there's another way to draw a straight line (It's for the application version of Line Rider Only, though. It's the one where you download on Boštjan Čadež Deviant Art page.

[edit] Curves

Hi, I just wanted to suggest that someone post that the "near flawless curve" some users create is called a parabola.

[edit] Nintendo DS and Wii versions coming

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061219/latu021.htm 69.243.128.26 18:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

"Yahoo - Document Has Expired"

[edit] Official Version out

http://official-linerider.com/play.html —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.252.233.94 (talk) 21:51, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Something to be fixed

"inXile will have to include some extra content in the package to convince gamers to pay for the Wii version". that doesnt seem right, someone fix?

"It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness." - Phorque 21:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Doc, on Wikipedia, if you light a candle, somebody will blow the candle out, replace it with twenty neon arrows pointing in every which direction, and then freeze it in carbonite for fun. 80.47.190.123 02:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC) Well said.--Pupster21 16:39, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zada?

Could someone clear up the relation between this Zada version and the "real" one? The artcle is a little confusing, going right from discussing unofficial modifications, then linking directly to what appears to be just another one of them. Should the linerider.ca thing be there, or not? Errick 23:09, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, my name is Matt. I'm new to line rider. How do you record your videos of line rider to upload them? Please answer quickly. Plus, how do you save your tracks, whenever I save it it dissapears.

Matt99

through desktop recording software such as http://www.camstudio.org --Atomic1fire 06:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Boštjan Čadež of InXile Entertainment"

Mr. Čadež works with InXile and not for them, doesn't he? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Niccus (talk • contribs) 03:51, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

the cam studio thing did not work

Yes that is true, he doesn't work for them. disconnect277

[edit] More Pictures- Techniques

Should someone add a picture of an example of a curve?72.79.59.54 00:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Official LineRider"

The site is down. Anyone know what happened?

The site works for me. Tinlion09 23:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Want it on the Wii?

They speak of a Wii version, which we all know to be a great idea (I hope). Now, what if your patience can't hold. Hack the Wii. The hack where you change a few advanced settings and then you can connect to the internet through the wii shop. The homepage becomes google, you search line rider, click on the link, and play! Ah, what fun. But, seriously, I'm not gonna post this on any page, except here. User:kevipapo (I'm really not good with wikiscript :P

Wii browser is now out. No more hacks required.

[edit] Features

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[edit] Protection

Do we STILL need protection on this after at least one month? 68.39.174.238 00:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It's been over two months now, actually (Nov. 14, looks like)... I've requested unprotection. --Czj 00:58, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

But note that it's on watch lists, and protection can be reinstated at any time. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd keep it protected. Hangfromthefloor 22:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official-Linerider.com Version

I think this version, with the background pencil, acceleration lines, straight line tool, eraser, etc, should have its own section in this article. I am going to add a whole section on it soon. --Brain 01:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I added a section detailing all the tools. Does anyone work on this page anymore? --Brain 01:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nintendo DS and Wii

I think that it should be posted that it will be released on Nintendo DS and Nintendo Wii sometime in Spring 2007. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WCS92 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Vandalism

I think the article should be put up for protection again seeing as all the "children" (And I use that term loosely.) are vandalising the article. - Jigsy 15:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Line Rider is NOT a penguin

Please stop changing man on a sled to penguin on a sled. This has already been discussed above and it was determined that the character is an abstractly represented human being. I don't want to start an edit war, but penguin is incorrect. Hangfromthefloor 02:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Umm, the creator says the Line Rider is a "dude" on his DeviantART blog, and since he's the creator of Line Rider... The Conundrumer^T_C 18:31, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I got the source (http://fsk.deviantart.com/journal/11022495/), but I don't know how to cite sources x_x The Conundrumer^T_C 00:00, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GDC Award

Line Rider got an Innovation award at this GDC. See http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=13040 and try to include that in the article. -- ReyBrujo 03:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)