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Contents 1 Screenshot(s) 2 zh/en cross translation 3 Wikified 4 Shortcuts removed 5 List of things that could be added? 6 Starting a Wiki without me 7 Housing (castles/homes) 8 About the skill of Paladin 9 Cleaning up a bit 10 Rearranged 11 Vandalizers?

[edit] Screenshot(s)

I'd like to upload a screenshot of this game. But MMORPGs are just too massive. --Kakurady 10:17, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Could someone tell me if this is a Free to Play game? -Izaak

• China:Yes.
• Taiwan:Yes.
• Japan:Yes.
• Korea:No, if user does not subscribe they can only play 2 hours per day.--Kakurady 14:23, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Someone should add something about the quest and exploration systems :)

I added a bit about this and the gameplay, but it probably needs some finetunning.0cm 17:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] zh/en cross translation

I suggest someone should cross translate the Chinese and English version of this article (Japanese/Korean would be nice too, pity that I don't know them).--Kakurady 12:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't know any chinese at all, but I could try to add more info (titles list, NPC's, maps, etc.) from other sources, like the japanese Mabinogi Wiki... when I have a little time :)

I think the article structure could use some changes though. In any case, it would be nice to have as much info as possible, but if the english version will be released soon, I think it will be easier... 0cm 20:25, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I am a Chinese, and if you like I would translate some materials. I think some changes in generations could be added. Lugiadoom 09:33, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikified

Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! Cleaned up the skills lists. JubalHarshaw 18:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! :) 0cm 20:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shortcuts removed

If the shortcuts are not useful to the article because they resemble a game manual too much, please elaborate on the gameplay mechanics/controls a bit more (as it is right now, there are no indications about this).0cm 18:19, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of things that could be added?

Please add to the list and contribute with a write-up if you can?

• Monster overview
• Title list
• Dungeon list
• Enchant scroll info
• Minigame info
• Item repair/upgrade overview
• PvP
• Marriage system

0cm 18:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia first and foremost, and not a game guide. I can't see anything other than PvP being added to the article. --Wafulz 19:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Mentioning game features isn't exactly a game guide, I think. I'm mostly going by the information present on the korean/japanese/chinese articles (please see them and let me know what you think) and important/notable game features. (They also have specific server and update info, for instance, but that would be a little tricky to work into the english page, granted that there isn't an english service yet? :p) 0cm 19:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Wafulz is currently right, Monster overview, Title list, Dungeon list, Enchant scroll info, ect. except PvP being added to it. However, for the game features, we already have something in relation to titles, dungeons, and others I believe.... --Achiel 05:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Looking at other game articles (World of Warcraft, for instance), I'd say there's still info that could be added. Not saying that you'd have to, for example, explain step-by-step how to repair items or everything on enchant scrolls, but mentioning this would help people understand what kind of features are available. Enchant was a big update, btw? I don't see how mentioning PvP is more relevant than letting people know that their characters can get married. But I guess if people are happy with how the article is right now, I won't add any more info. Oh, about the continent move, it's free in the japanese version too :) 0cm 01:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

The point is that it would have to be relevant out-of-universe stuff. For example, a list of classes selectable is alright (if kept brief and to the point- ie, don't go in and tell me all the advantages/disadvantages). However, a list of monsters is a little overboard. Keep in mind that WoW is one of the most major games in existence today, and having a list of its classes is not going over well. The best rule of thumb I can think of for this is the following: If you can use it as a strategy guide, then it probably doesn't belong- any in-universe information should be kept very brief and to the point. --Wafulz 02:57, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, excuse me for being mistaken about the "Continent Move" I always believed something like that was a luxury to the game and would be available to those with a paid service, besides, the people shouldn't be lazy and take the boat ride in the game. EDIT: Don't know about PvP being notable, but PvP areas are activated in dungeons using their respective Battle coins for the certain dungeon --Achiel 07:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

It is free to use on the Chinese server, too. I thought that Continent Move is not a necessity, but the ship port is at the southmost of the continent; imagine having to run all the way south without a horse. --Kakurady 09:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, people have ways of getting around running all the way there. It usually has to do with the involving of the Housing area and Return Coupons. Oh well, I guess it's better off that way. --Achiel 10:21, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Like someone points out on the WoW talk page, it depends on what each person's idea of a game guide is. I never said I'd like to see a full monster list though, I mentioned a monster overview (a bit more elaborate than it is now). I also didn't imply that each of those topics would have to be a new section on their own. But I'd say mentioning them could be useful. I stopped playing Mabi for a while and then picked up after the huge Iria update, I didn't realize there was a continent move option and actually walked all the way to the ship a few times! Yes, continent move <> very useful! :D 0cm 19:10, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Starting a Wiki without me

So this is what everyone has been doing? Why haven't anyone told me about this? But on subject I can add info on each generation mainstream plot, but that will force me to have to introduce npcs also (alot of "normal" npcs are needed for mainstream plot). Also in Iria they have Mana Gates, not Sun Gates.

Also shouldn't there be a section for the english population of the foeign versions. --Herro Yaki 9:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I think everyone calls them sungates (mana tunnels) because they're the opposite of the already existing moongates The english speaking population figures might be tricky to come by, no? 0cm 19:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

It may be desireable to put NPCs into a seperate article.--Kakurady 06:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

I do not think anything else is needed on each generation mainstream plots, really. --Achiel 02:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Can you add link to english comunity site or forum,it will help us who alone in server a lot. and info of lona and pan 's video . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.154.146.7 (talk) 04:54, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Housing (castles/homes)

Does anyone know if housing has been implemented yet? It hasn't in the japanese version, at least I don't think so, but maybe the korean version has this feature already? Seems to be interesting, especially the castle taxes, hooray for feudalism! ;) 0cm 16:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

The Chinese and Taiwanese servers have implemented housing, and since everything has to be implemented in the Korean version before going global, I'd say yes... but one exception: Mabingi Knight Fight (that's what they are nameing the Chinese version - I'll have to say this name is so lame, The Paladin War might be better) is the first version to have PvP combat and PvP ranking outside arenas (as much as two channels out of four at Nao Server is dedicated to PvP), while the Korean version will not have PvP ranking before G5S3, and only 1-on-1 is allowed, similar to Pet vs. Pet system currently implemented (i.e. you cannot WindMill a dozen players standing on the enterance of dungeon, mass killing them all).--Kakurady 04:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

As for the castles, it is a very interesting system. First, guilds bid for the castles (mininum bid is one million gold - but the highest on our server is like a hundred MGs), then they collect building material (the system does the actual "building"). Then the guild can choose to build houses on the threehundredsomething pieces of land. (If the land have previously owned houses the newly in control guild can choose whether to keep them or destroy them.)

Built houses can then be leased to players (who have purchased double storage play package). The player with the highest bid gets the house. Then you'll have to pay the taxes (it is more rent than taxes) from the second week of acquiring the house.

The tax rate can be set from 10%-90%, in increments of 10%, however the system always get 10% of your bid price from the taxes, and the guild get what's left over. The taxes are paid until a week before the player stops to own the house, at which point the system returns their bid money. So you actually only pay (number of weeks owing the house -2)* bid price * tax rate (though you need as much as that plus 100% of your bid price), and the guild gets (number of weeks owing the house -2)* bid price * (tax rate - 10%). The cost of a house can be some two to ten thousand golds.

• Houses can be used as a gallery, a shop, or whatnot.
• A brownie is fixed (position-wise) in the middle of the house and he cannot be moved. This one provides the functionalities of guestbook and address confirming. Additional brownies can be hired to provide goods.
• Houses have their own, dedicated channel (normally hidden in the channel selection dialog), which is curiously named "house" (all lower case, in English - shown as Channel 0 in the in-game independent messaging system).
• One of the bosses of the Senmag Plains Castle Dungeon is an Incubus. The dungeon can only be entered by purchasing a pass from the (only) castle guard, the price of the pass can be set by the guild in control of the castle.
• Maybe someone can do a cleanup of above text and put it into the article.
• Trivia: Operating under the name of TianCity, Shanghai Posts and Telecommunication Technologies Co. Ltd. (rumours says that it is owned by a company called Le Xian, which in turn is a joint venture between Nexon and a Chinese company) is known for its [high-quality | totally @#%^*!] translations. Some examples I have recently seen include "Shakespeare Fibers" for shark's fin soup, misteranslating Chocolate brownies as Brownie Elves (lit.: puppet dolls), and Pixel Dark 1.1 (Pixel Shader 1.1).

--Kakurady 05:07, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, it does sound very interesting! 0cm 02:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the skill of Paladin

Now there's someone talking about the paladin skills. "other skills are avaliable anytime and you just need to finish the collecting of pages of the book of paladin", but i remember this quest is avaliable in G3S4, if i haven't forgotten..? 210.0.211.153 00:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Someone put G4S3 last time, and I thought wait a minute, that's not right. --Achiel 04:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Just searched the forum...and I found that the quests are avaliable in G3S3. --Lugiadoom 09:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaning up a bit

I tried the best I can to get rid of excessive information already said, and to get rid of most of the first/second person statements in the article. --Achiel 02:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

That's cool. I hate it when people mark something that needs correction but never bother to fix any of it! I think this article could also use a word or two about the actual game engine (that it's cel-shaded and so on). I thought the dungeon info fell under the game guide policy? All those stars just seem copy-pasted from another site :P Also, it seems no one added the info about housing, left above? Please do if you have some time. 0cm 23:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

OH MY GOD. The person who edited the article. Jesus, now I have to go and clean it up again. Too much useless information that doesn't need to be said. - Achiel 08:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rearranged

I've changed the order of a couple of things (mostly, the summary and gameplay sections). Please check it out if you can and fix anything that's "not quite right". Oh, and please verify/fix the release dates on the info box, if you can! Another thing, isn't the "summary" already the first paragraphs of the article before the index of contents? Should the contents of the summary be moved up and disappear as a section? Only a thought. 0cm 18:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I find nothing wrong with it so far. Rofl. All looks pretty good and green. - Achiel 21:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalizers?

It seems that vandalizers that can't even play the game started to spread hate on this wikipedia article. = = - Achiel 13:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)