User talk:Osborne

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Hi Osborne, in case you haven't seen them:

• Wikipedia:Northern Irish Wikipedians' notice board
• Wikipedia:Irish Wikipedians' notice board

Great work on the Ulster Museum page by the way. Must make a visit soon, haven't been in years. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 14:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prof. Jones

If you've still not "read the manual", read this article WP:N. It'll help. --Dweller 11:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article on W.E.Jones

I've copied over my answer from Requests for feedback - if you are still confused after this, drop me a note and I'll try to help.

I gather it may be unaccepted. Ok. I need help - I'm new and confused. May have to give-up! Osborne.

I think the problem with the Eifion Jones article is that it does not establish notability. In order for an article to merit inclusion on Wikipedia there must be some assertion that the subject is worthy of an entry in an encyclopedia. You can establish this in the article by giving references from third party works that prove that he is recognised as an expert in his field. In addition the article has several point of view statements such as "He was a well-liked lecturer and his enthusiasm was imparted to students". All wikipedia articles should written from a neutral point of view so this type of expression is discouraged. Yomangani^talk 12:06, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eifion Jones

Well done for your perserverance. It'll be a good article. I'm sure Wikipedia can use some more botany expertise... please do stick around. --Dweller 13:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Helping you further

You might want to check out Portal:Biology and Wikipedia:WikiProject plants, particularly the latter. The WikiProjects always welcome newbies with enthusiasm and/or expertise. You appear to have both. --Dweller 13:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouraging note (on re-reading this page!) . However I am too lazy to read all the instructions. I have just jumped in at the deep end and get help and advice from helpful people as yourself.Osborne 09:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

On looking through the Talk page I noted again your helpful comments. I would be grateful for a not ion how (an when) I should enter a "piped-link". That is how do I do it? Osborne 14:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belfast WikiProject

As you have contributed to an article relating to Belfast, I hope you could take some time to read this page about our new project: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Belfast.

Thanks. --Mal 01:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Had a quick look at it - Oh it's quite beyond me! But take a look at Ulster Museum, or Algae or History of Phycology and you will see my positon - or rather my ability at this contraption. Best wishes. Osborne 16:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading images

Hi Osborne, take a look at Wikipedia:Uploading images, it's fairly comprehensive. But image copyright tags can be a minefield, very confusing. If you upload anything and are having problems give me a shout and I'll try to help. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 09:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk pages

You can find a guide to using talk pages over at Help:Talk page, hope this helps! Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 09:23, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Algae and Seaweed

I would ask at the Village Pump. They can be of more assistance than I can. Sorry. --Kf4bdy ^{talk contribs} 19:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kelp/Laminaria

I have not mastered the "Talk" page. However if anyone out there "hears" me please advise. Re. Kelp & Laninaria. I suspect Kelp shouls redirect to Laminaria - it seems to be the "Master" page. But is it. Will be grateful for advice please. Is this the way I ask for advice? Osborne

Hey Osborne - the best way to ask for help is to add a tag called 'helpme' to your user talk page - place two { and } around the tag to create it. I'm not entirely sure what you're asking - Kelp and Laminaria are two separate articles, Kelp doesn't redirect to Laminaria (and we don't have an article on Kelp shouls). Does this help you at all? If you want to discuss it with people who've written about Kelp and Laminara, the pages you need are Talk:Kelp and Talk:Laminaria (edited the same way you edited your own talk page just now). They don't seem to be very active, however, so I'm not sure how much help you'd get. Please don't hesitate to reply either here or on my talk page if I can help you any further. --Mnemeson 15:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I will see if I can take your kind advice. I am wondering whether Kelp and Laminaria should be redirected or merged! I was in error We do not have an article on "Kelp shouls" probably I ment "Kelp" and added "shoul)d" in a "typing" error! I need a little practice.Osborne 08:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ALGAE - History of...

On further thought perhaps the details of Harvey's life should be left to the link - q.v. Osborne 08:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] W.H.Harvey

Any corrections on the publications of Harvey will be welcome!Osborne 09:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I think I will have to rewrite this article! Does not look too good. Osborne 10:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm having trouble entering the References ==<.../>== If you can help I will be grateful. Osborne 12:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History of Phycology

Thanks to those who have corrected my spelling! Osborne 11:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Osborne, you might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Science and/or Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Biology. Cheers--ragesoss 22:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Have tried to move "References" to the end " - did not work. Now a bit mixed-up!. Will stop for a while & recover! Osborne 14:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC). Should this be translated in other languages? and by whom?Osborne 10:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

{{Help me}}...is this how I request help? If so I would be grateful: see "William Henry Harvey" I have not got the references quite right. {{help me}}Osborne 12:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you asked for help correctly. I've fixed the references for you; see [1] to see what I did. I hope that helps, if you have any further questions, place the {{helpme}} tag back up. --ais523 12:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I will keep a note of "Ais523" for help in the future. However I'm not sure what you mean by: ..."tag back up."

I have one other question - I'll return to Ais523 for that! Osborne 14:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

I would be most grateful if someone could explain to me - in a simple way - how to enter a reference. ^[1]

And in the references:- Morton 2006 ^[2]

....But how to get these in order both in the text and in the list of refs in alphabetic orded.

I'll try again! Osborne 12:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] F.T.Kützing

Hi, Osborne! I am a student from Ukraine. I'm interested in algae too. Have you any information about F.T. Kützing (e.g., scans from books)? Dmitry Kapustin 13:04, 7 January 2007 (UTC) Try: /kbo/utst/stil/ktzing.html.en and: paper by Woelkerling, W.J. 1985. A taxonomic reassessment of Spongities (Corallinaceae, Rhodophyta) based on studies of Kützing's original collections. Br.phycol. J. 20: 123 - 153. We in the Ulster Museum, have some specimens of Kutzing (Specimen nos. F1171; F10281 - F10318).Osborne 15:23, 8 January 2007 (UTC) Further: Try :- Algae-L This will enable you to contact other phycologists.Osborne 16:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC).

or:- www.seaweed.ie Osborne 16:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Dmitry Kapustin 17:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wrack (science)

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Wrack (science), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Oo7565 20:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the template, beause I think the article can be expanded or combined, and you should right now try to do one or the other, because it will undoubted be relisted for deletion, though not by me .DGG 04:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Have started extension. Is the article worth keeping & expanding? Osborne 15:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S what does "UTC" mean??

Oh dear - I wanted this to be laid out as a list will try again.Osborne 15:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't think this article is needed at all, see "Fucus" - cross-ref? Osborne 16:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

(Just helping with the formatting) Hows that? Leave a blank line to start a new paragraph, UTC is Coordinated Universal Time - basically GMT. « Keith ^t/_e» 12:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing question

Hi, I'm just letting you know that I've answered your question about footnotes at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Please Issue Easy Guidlines for Footnotes with Links. invincible 15:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks I think I have mastered it. See: History of Phycology. Osborne 09:52, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Answers

• How to add images

I depends. If there are images you want to add that are found in other Wikipedia articles, then you find the file names for the images (by clicking on the images in the articles), then using the following markup: [[Image:nameofimage.jpg|thumb|This is the image caption.]] .

If you have these images on your computer and the copyright status is acceptable (i.e., either you took them yourself or they have been released free of copyright or with a Wikipedia-compatible license), then you can upload them. After uploading them, you can use the same markup as above to add them to the article. To upload images, go to Wikimedia Commons and create an account, then click "Upload file" on the left. Follow the instructions on that page, making sure to include a good description of the image and where it came from, as well as selecting the appropriate license. If you have any trouble, let me know.

• On translation

Translation is an informal process. If someone from another language Wikipedia decides to translate the article, they will; simple as that.

--ragesoss 16:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Ummmmmm! Thanks09:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)Osborne 09:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:(User talk:Ais523) Future help.

I have no objection to you asking me questions in future; you can contact me by editing User talk:ais523. However, I'm not always online (that's why it took me so long to answer your most recent question), and using {{helpme}} is likely to produce a faster response in such cases, so it's your call really. You can visit this page (your talk page) any time by clicking on the 'my talk' button at the top of the screen, and it contains the signatures of all the users who you've corresponded with; this should help you keep track of the people you've talked to. Hope that helps! --ais523 16:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks. "My" History of phycology needs to be "wikified" - I fear there is a lot to do! I may have to come back to you on this! Osborne 14:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belfast Naturalists' Field Club

The article you wrote, Belfast Naturalists' Field Club, is uncategorized. Please help improve it by adding it to one or more categories, so it may be associated with related articles. A stub marker or other template doesn't count - please put in an actual category in the article. Eli Falk 16:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, how do I do that? Probably it is not worth keeping anyway. Regards.Osborne 16:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Category for technical detail. Beyond that, see WP:CAT - the link I already gave you above. Eli Falk 16:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll see if I can get round to it. ThanksOsborne 16:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh it seems you have done it for me - thanks very much. I will be careful not to open an article again! I have other things to look out - like "endash"–—−|.... and the like. Thankls .Osborne 08:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: (User talk:ais523) Two questions

1. The link Halichondria panicea that you came across on Algae is what's known as a redlink. As the link is displaying in red, it means that an editor thought that it would be a good page to have an article on, but that no article existed. Redlinks are created the same way as normal links (bluelinks) except that you link to a nonexistent article. If you know enough about the subject, you could try writing an article at the target of the link yourself; if you don't, or you don't feel like writing that article, and you want an article created at that link, you could try requesting it at Wikipedia:Requested articles if it isn't there already (although bear in mind that requests often take a long time to fulfil, as it depends on whether someone who knows about the subject wants to write that article or not).
2. The markup for an en dash is –: –. (Special character codes go between an ampersand and a semicolon.) You can also insert a literal en dash into the markup by clicking on the en dash in the 'insert' box under the 'save page' buttons, which looks slightly clearer in the markup (and if you use the – method, it's quite possible that an editor or bot will change it to the literal en dash for you).
3. And yes, I am replying on your talk page; if you ask a user a question and don't ask them to put a reply anywhere in particular, they're most likely to reply either on your talk page or their own talk page. Many users will write down their policy for replying at the top of their talk page.

Hope that helps! --ais523 10:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. As I have written much of the article I have taken on myself the responsibility of "de-linking" Halichondria. It is possible I was in error myself by clicking the internal link "button" in error instead of the Italics! I will have to take a detailed look at your answer to my second point. Thanks. Osborne 11:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I screwed up the markup in my answer to the second question. I've corrected it now, sorry for the confusion! --ais523 09:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Laminaria

{{helpme}}

Ref four edits on a Laminaria articla: dated 28.02.2007 I have added four species of North American Laminaria, with refs. However only two of these are shown in the 09.28 version. A box "North American Pacific shores" appears in an earlied version of today and the reference has vanished in one version. The four versions between 9.00 and 10.00 o'clock. In these three or four edits bits have been lost and others have come unwanted.Osborne 10:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed it for you. When repeating a reference in the article, use <ref name="..." /> (as opposed to <ref name="...">...</ref> for the first use); note the extra slash that is needed when repeating the reference. Hope that helps! --ais523 10:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

|== An article you might have some interest in ==

Its no biggie, but you might be interested that I started a page for the Ulster American Folk Park, thanks to your question on the NI Project talk page. I also copyedited the Ulster Museum article, only a little.. and just for style really. If you've got the time, and haven't already, please take a look at both articles and change anything according to your own knowledge. Cheers. Keep up the good work. :) -- Mal 05:31, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm still not at ease with Wikipedia. Where is WP:NI/NI Project ...see what I mean I can't even repeat the site as you have written, nor can I find the talk page you refer to! Ah well I will find out some day. I must say I like your colours - I will have to play with that some time.Ah I know. I will simply copy & paste:- NI Project However I stiill cant type ..that wee upright stroke between NI and NI! I better do some work of types now.Osborne 09:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phycology/psycology

These are two different words sometimes confused. Phycology is the study od algae. "Phycos" is the Greek from which "Fucus" (Latin) is derived (I understand). Fucus is the generic name for certain big brown algae common on European shores.Osborne 11:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Osborne, thanks for that. You learn something new every day. My bot doesn't have a rule for phycology but it does have one for phycological. Is that what you saw? (What article was it in BTW?) In any event, I'm removing the rule for phycological as I did a search over an entire enwiki dump and every use of phycological was correct. Cheers, and apologies for the confusion, Cmdrjameson 13:56, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Great. I'm not quite sure what a BTW is! good for it.(I suppose it is something to do with "word". Anyway I am a member of the British Phycological Society - try that in Google - it should work. All the Botanical (new word?) in Latin will be new words to your "bot". Some plants have lovely latin words: "Ceramium shuttleworthianum" and "Chrysosplenium oppositifolium" . Many people don't like these but can use Rhododendron and the like. Osborne 14:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading algae images

Hi, Osborne, I hope you intend to upload algae images, as the algae species of Ireland are well-researched. KP Botany 04:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The algae are fairly well researched - I did a fair bit of it see: Marine Algae of Northern Ireland. 1994 ISBN 0 900761 28 8. As for images I don't know how to upload images and a little concerned about copyright. So I'm careful, perhaps too careful.Osborne 09:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC) I would be grateful for your help -how to upload/download an image. Osborne 09:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flora section you added to the Waterford (city) article

Hi Osborne, I'm going to remove this because a) The article is about Waterford City and not Co. Waterford, where presumably the Algae is to be found primarily, b) a flora section with just a reference to algae is not very good, and really a separate article on Waterford Flora would be more in order anyway, and c) your link pertains to Co. Wexford, not Waterford at all. Merlante 17:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

OK. The reference gave the list of species as from Wexford & Waterford & did not distinguish! Anyway it did not give much info & I'm not sure whether it is worth putting anywhere. Any advice will be welcome, I'm still new at this contraption.Osborne 08:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)