User talk:Physchim62

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[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Standard test

Template:Standard test has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --Oden 21:15, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] No personal attacks

With regards to your comments on Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 January 12: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Oden 14:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

Hi, I found that this stub: Models of atoms is a copyvio of this article by Michael Fowler: Models of the Atom. Please delete. Thanks: --Sadi Carnot 18:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Blatant copyvio, and blatantly incorrect as well! Physchim62 (talk) 10:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A copyvio page

Hi, I need an admin again! I have been in minor conflict with a newbie User:Mikeguth, who was trying to write a bio of his father Eugene Guth, one of the founders of polymer physics and polymer PChem. It got a copyvio tag on it. The stuff in the article was essentially the late Eugene Guth's home page which his son has the copyright for. He just did not do it properly and got cross. I have written a decent little stubb in the temp page referred to on the copyvio notice. Could you please fix it and install the stubb? Many thanks. Maybe I'll try for admin soon. --Bduke 01:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anglicisation

Hello - I'm contacting you because of your involvement with many French articles. A few have undertaken the task of "Anglicising" French terms in Wiki articles (eg/: "Région => Region"; "Département => Departement") - there doesn't seem to have been any discussion about this, so your point of view would be welcome. I think a good place for this discussion would be the WP:FR page. Thank you. THEPROMENADER 14:26, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please do not make personal attacks

Please see Wikipedia:No personal attacks. If you feel you cannot comply with it, you may well become unwelcome on the English wikipedia. You should take the trouble to read the policies before you threaten others with them, as you cannot conceivably make a case that I commented on any contributor. Chicheley 20:10, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I note that you were last referred to Wikipedia:No personal attacks just 5 days ago. Please keep cool and do not expect higher standards of others than you observe yourself. Chicheley 20:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

No, you did worse, you attacked a whole group of contributers, those of whom English is not the mother tongue. I certainly do not expect higher standards of conduct than I have myself, but neither do I accept blatent bullying, in either of the cases you refer to. Physchim62 (talk) 16:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] template:chembox new

Hi, I have been tampering with the chembox new. There were problems with the images in the NFPA diamond, which I have now resolved by copying the {{NFPA 704}} into the {{NFPA-chembox}} and adapting the code of all templates. The {{chembox new}} now has a new parameter 'NFPA-O'. Now there is a problem, if NFPA-O is there, but has no value, it shows up as the name of the variable. I hope this does not bite your ideas with this template too much, if so, feel free to revert my actions (should be 5 templates and ~4 pages). Otherwise, would you mind having a look at that variable-problem, my template knowledge seems to be insufficient here? Cheers. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 21:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

This was one of the hardest parts of coding {{chembox new}}: if your changes didn't work, I think you'd know about it by now! :) all improvements on my "patch" solution are welcome: I think the criterion should be the ease of recoding old templates and the correction of bad information. Physchim62 (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, cheers! I will have a second look in that case, there are some things that seem superfluous now, and some things seem missing, but I'll see. I may try some things on an offline wiki to get things to run properly. See you around! --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 16:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] American non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term

Thank you for your recent interest in m:American non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term. However, I just wonder whether simply writing "section 104A" in "When section 104A started automatic copyright restoration" is clear enough. That section of the USA Copyright Act is where I consider a major obstacle to the development of Wiki sites. This is why I wish to eventually gather various Wiki users to request American acceptance of the rule of the shorter term.--Jusjih 18:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] S## templates in List_of_S-phrases

Hi! I see you started this nice little article, but I'm wondering whether any of these templates are seeing use elsewhere. Thanks! // FrankB 05:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

• These templates are widely used in articles about chemicals, see Ammonia for just one example, or WP:Chem for a wider picture. Physchim62 (talk) 10:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Montserrat virgin.jpg)

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[edit] S-phrases in brackets

Hi. Your have created the templates for R- and S-phrases a long time ago. The are no templates for S-phrases in brackets yet. Please have a look here (at the end). Maybe, you can give a good imput on this topic. Thanks. --Lucido 13:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Replied on Edgar's talk page. Physchim62 (talk) 14:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to say thanks for creating the template S2. --Ed (Edgar181) 15:07, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling of Macau/o

Re [1] [2] - Macao isn't actually a wrong spelling, and is in fact the spelling the Macau Government uses in its publications in the English language. I don't quite agree that the spelling of Macau/o has to be consistent throughout Wikipedia, just like we accept different spelling traditions like colour and color, centre and center, and so on. — Instantnood 17:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disrespect

Hi,

I'd like you to warn about what I regard as a very unpolite action by the user Maurice27 at the WikiProject Catalan-speaking Countries talk page.

I don't mind about his political ideas, but it's very uncivil from him to write such things, ain't? He claims to fight against nationalisms, but he is acting as a very aggressive nationalist when he laughs at whoever doesn't agree him or defends minorized languages and cultures.

Thx for your attention, --Casaforra (parlem-ne) 21:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page move

Hi, Psyschim62. Can you do a page move. I've cited the reasons here. Thanks: --Sadi Carnot 22:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I have redirected your article of "Ripoll (river)" to the one I created: Riu Ripoll

I created the article "Riu Ripoll" without having knowledge that it already existed another article named "Ripoll (river)". When I saw it, as it was just an stub, I redirected it to the one I had created.

By the way, are you catalan?

Onofre Bouvila 16:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caistor

It's funny. I see Caistor from my bedroom window every morning. I live in Hibaldstow. --Asterion^talk 07:58, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Posting from WP Council thread

Thanks for bringing over the WP Council threads to the WP Spain page, but I didn't see where those threads came from. Could you add a link to where they came from? Thanks! EspanaViva 18:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey Invitation

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[edit] Capitalization

Hello there! Haven't seen you for a while. I'm just wondering...do you know what are the guidelines for capitalization of article titles when the subject begins with a number? For example, take 18-Electron rule: I'm tempted not to capitalize the "e" in electron, but it seems to be a convention to capitalize the first non-number character. --HappyCamper 02:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barcelona

Well, the GA/R started all the way back in January, and it looks like the article has been edited quite a bit since then, some of the objections may not apply anymore. I know all about the systematic bias thing, but the thing of it is, this is the English encyclopedia, and I think its fair to expect the majority of readers to be primarily english readers, while we can fix bias problems on our end, we can't fix bias among Wikipedia's readership. I didn't start that GA/R because I think having references in other languages is a terrible thing, but when almost every single one of them is in a non-English language, I think that's a bit too much. Homestarmy 13:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Customs Regulation 3295/94

Hi. You have created this article. I have renamed it (a shorter title seemed better), and it actually seems it was repealed by Coucil Regulation (EC) No 1383/2003 of 22 July 2003 concerning customs action against goods suspected of infringing certain intellectual property rights and the measures to be taken against goods found to have infringed such rights, Article 24. The box needs to be updated. Please could you check whether this is alright, thanks. --Edcolins 16:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe you're correct (my EU regulations are on my other computer, so I can't check immediately). I will see what I can do to update the relevant pages, when I get a moment.... :) Physchim62 (talk) 14:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] titration

"I will dig out the reference" <-- sounds useful. The data file I got from User:Atropos235 also includes an attempt to calculate the second derivative, but it is not easy to pick out the signal from the noise in the data. --JWSchmidt 18:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bot

Hi Physchim.

Luckily seems like the infamous Land of Valencia is at low ebb, hopefully extinguishing in its former stronghold. Now, I think we should ask for a bot to remove LOV from all the articles (is spread everywhere like a virus) and replace it with Valencian Community.

You are more knowledgeable than me with these things, so...do you think you could do that for me? or, alternatively, you could just let me know the procedure required for that. This, of course, in case you agree with this measure, which I wholeheartedly support. Thanks Mountolive | Talk 03:41, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

No, at least for the moment, and for several reasons:

1. technically, it is not as simple as you think. By past experience, WP has found that bot article changes can get some very strange results: this is why we usually keep them to defined areas of the 'article' text, such as infoboxes or interwiki links.
2. the debate is not yet closed on Talk:Valencia (autonomous community), even if most editors agree that LoV is a bad translation. It is bad politics to make a wide-ranging step while other discussions are still in course. IMHO, the priority should be to get a general agreement on how the Valencia (autonomous community) article should look like.
3. the title of Valencia (autonomous community) is still in dispute, even if we have managed to move our debates onto areas where improvement is easier. My own preference for the article title is fairly clear, but I do not want a "move war" to be added onto the other disputes. I think that once we have improved the article to GA-status, the problem of the title will resolve itself (even if the decision goes against my current opinion, but that is a question for further debate).
4. there is an ongoing process of renewing articles about Valencian municipalities, which may well result in much of the same change being brought about without the need to use the "hammer" of a bot run.

Patience is not always a virtue, but I feel that it is the best course it this situation at the moment. Thank you for your many contributions, and best wishes Physchim62 (talk) 13:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

On the technical aspect, this bot could, per your comments, then be restricted to infoboxes and interwiki links: any help is needed and, if automated, that's even most welcome ;)

Now, on the substance of your reply, I was fearing a similar reply. I concede that the matter is not clear but, lately, it has cool down and resistance to removing LoV is at low ebb.

As you know, sometimes it is a human behaviour thing to refuse to say "ok, I give in" and we might never hear such words from certain people we know. That is why I am thinking that applying euthanasia to LoV is a legitimate option: for, yes, they may implicitly give in, but they won't tell us, nor, of course, do anything to mend this gaffe themselves.

Anyway, I guess I can request this bot by myself, but I will refrain of doing so just to give some more time to cool off if you think is needed.

I'm just fearing that, like some wild fires, if you leave it glowing, it may come back as bad as ever. Mountolive | Talk 17:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

p.s. in any case, I'd appreciated it if you replaced LoV anywhere you find it. I am doing that myself already, but, as I said, it is fairly spread and I don't have any interest in restraining myself to sniff this term here and there to erase it. I still want to continue enjoying wikipedia in its many aspects, not become any zealot whatsoever, probably like those guys I mentioned above. Mountolive | Talk 17:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I have stub articles (including infoboxes) for the 542 Valencian municipalities just waiting to be uploaded (where needed), so I am likely to be looking at a lot of Valencian Community pages over the next couple of days! Unfortunately, I have spent all day travelling to reach Catalonia, and I must get some sleep! I will try to respond to your other points (later) in the morning, as well as taking a look at Names of the Valencian Community. Best wishes, Physchim62 (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I checked Valencia (autonomous community) (one day someone should change it to Valencian Community, I guess) and I have to say that I do like the new solution proposed. I have even checked the page again in my watchlist, because if this gets stable, we could resume work on more interesting and rewarding aspects of the matter. It looks like an incipient and still fragile equilibrium, but hopefully it will work out.

Then I also took a look at the new "Names of the game". It also looked to me like a good effort and mostly ok. I edited what I thought was reasonable, let's see if you all agree.

Have a good time in Catalonia: it is supposed to keep rainy for the next few days...but that's ok. I will be looking forward to your comments on the above. Mountolive | Talk 05:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

ps. by the way, if you ever hit anything in Valencian Community related articles which you don't have a clue of, don't hesitate to let me know, I might be of help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mountolive (talk • contribs) 05:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

Yep, it's certainly raining in Capellades! I've just taken a break from uploading stubs and infoboxes for municipalities (and doing the associated cleanup work) to take another look at Valencia (autonomous community). Apart from the naming issue, we are going to have to do some serious work on the history section... I would like to see a short politics section as well, if only to provide a correspondance list of Valencian and national parties (where they go by different names). As for the title of the article, it may well end up being moved to Valencian Community but I don't see this as the most urgent issue. There are some editors who have commented quite strongly that "Valencia" is the 'correct' English name for the AC: I don't agree, and I have seen no evidence in favour of this position, but this is one of the "disputes" I referred to above which will need to be resolved at some point.

For some time now, when I come across references to LoV in other editing, I have been changing them: I was going to say that the sky hasn't fallen in yet, but given the current weather that might not be the best analogy! This Google search gives the current state of play on the issue (don't forget that it also includes talk pages and transcluded templates in the number of hits). I really don't think that a bot run is going to be much help at all: too many of the references are either in the article text or scattered around in category references. By the time you have persuaded a bot-operator to do the run and defined the scope, you might as well have changed them by hand!

I'm not at the point where I am on a systematic blitz against LoV references, although in practice I expect to have changed all references in articles about public administration quite soon... Although I am fairly convinced that "Valencian Community" is the correct term to use when referring to the AC as an AC or in other administrative circumstances, I do wonder whether "Valencian Country" as a translation of País Valencià might be more appropriate for some of the cultural articles... But then I rarely edit cultural articles! I'll weigh in on 'Names of the Game' in the next day or two, I hope there aren't too many fights brewing there ;) Physchim62 (talk) 00:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Being myself a technology dummy, I 'oscillate wildly' between both unfounded skepticism and unfounded optimism as to what automated agents may do for us. I was not aware that a bot will not operate (or, at least, it is not so easy) with un-linked text. Nor I was aware that getting a bot may require the same negotiation skills as lobbying in Washington ;)

So, yes, that is fine to do some good ol' manually work here and there. I am not myself in a systematic blitz against that either (that would be kind of depressing), but I indeed remove them whenever I hit them. It is good to know that I am not the only one ;)

If you see the google search, all the damned LoV seems to come from wikipedia...sigh!

Names of the game, despite some skirmish between myself and Pmmollet seems fairly stable now...dunno, though, whether is like the drought going on for weeks in Catalonia before you arrived or what :P

As for opening a Politics section...mhh...my advice is: be careful man, that may well be opening Pandora's box! I'd say that opening a table simply listing the parties would be much more appropiate in order to avoid new World Wars...damn, Valencia and politics is a potentially hazardous mix, you know? What I think is certainly needed is (I wrote that in the talk page) to create the own articles for Gastronomy and Sports, because the way these are displayed there give the article -in my opinion- some unencyclopedic "tourist info" touch.

I wouldn't say that Valencian Country is more appropiate for cultural articles, but that is another story...

Have a good time....by the way: do you know how to swim? hope you do! :D Mountolive | Talk 16:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

On second thought...what a stupid question whether you can swim...I am sure the large wet haddock has obviously taught you how to do that! :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mountolive (talk • contribs) 16:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] ELAC

Did your "Extra-Long Article Committee" ever get off the ground? I have just blown my top on Talk:List of registered political parties in Spain, which is so long as to be functionally useless! Physchim62 (talk) 02:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, we almost did. In short, we were gaining joiners at a rate of about one new person per day. We trimmed down a few articles and developed some new organizational techniques for long articles. Over two weeks we got up to about 12 participants. But then I posted a note to the featured article talk page stating that because certain featured articles are way over the limit that in the future there would likely be conflict between the two projects. From here the whole thing blew up. A heated argument erupted between a large number of people and the entire project ended up getting scraped. You can read an old version of it here. The talk page to that project turned out to be a nighmare. Since then, I have been actively avoiding anything having to do with long articles. Later: --Sadi Carnot 03:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Avoiding the featured article cabal is a pretty good move on WP as well! I only ever get involved with FA's as a favour to other editors, the whole thing just get my back (and my blood pressure) up too much! Never mind, if you're not doing long articles any more, that will mean that you've got more time for thermodynamics, no? ;) Physchim62 (talk) 03:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

For whatever reason, some people like odd and long lists? Go figure. I did break up the List of states in the Holy Roman Empire, which used to be the longest article in WP; the best way to break up a list, aside from vfd, is to add a side template or top bar box, and then paste each category into it. Also, in WP, I’ve learned, you have to know when to cut your losses and to try to stick to only those contributions which don’t become too involved. This week I'm researching the development of chemical thermodynamics in the time of Helmholtz, with his famous 1882 paper. I hope this helps? Talk later. --Sadi Carnot 06:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Valencia

Thanks for the friendly warning. You didn't have to, since Maurice27 edits were not based on arguments but on an ad hominem accusation of purported xenophobia, they were considered vandalism. Per policy in WP:3RR, which I assume you read thoroughly before bringing your friendly warning (or spurious accusation, depending on the crystal through which you see it) 3RR does not apply when treating vandalism. Nonetheless, thank you for your concern. If you are truly a neutral user in this matter, you should have noticed his accusations in the first place, instead of condoning his edits which were based on an direct attack. --the Dúnadan 02:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)