Talk:Simulation game
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[edit] Total makeover
This page was a complete mess. It seems as several editors had been confused whether the article was about table-top or computer simulations. As a result, the content was disorganised, the discussion incoherent, the initial definition, the bullets and lists were a mixture of computer and table top items. I restructured the article in its entirety, divided things more clearly into table-top and computer sections, added material about vehicular simulations, and synchronised the computer genres discussion with the current state of wikipedia computer games genres classification. Also corrected the categories for the article. I also pruned the lists of titles, which can be found --better updated!-- in at least two more articles (will add link to those), and a totally incoherent list apparently orphaned from an earlier context but that now only appeared misplaced. The article is still far from good and needs more work, but now at least is is coherent and somewhat structured. Mikademus 11:13, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Re-reading the other articles and discussions about (computer) game genres, I think this page is problematic. First of all it is named according to thte scheme used for computer game genres, but it is also about non-computer games. Secondly, the non-computer games are treaded only marginally and sort of seems like an appendix that cannot be removed out of guilt. Thirdly, simulation games, or simulators, are predominantly understood to be vehicular simulations and it is highly problematic to include strategy games etc here. In fact, any game remotely based on reality becomes a simulation, based on the criteria set up by this article. This is a problem inherent in the word "simulator" itself, but that is unfortunately too late to do anything about now. So since the genre lists has "strategy" and "simulation" as separate top-genres. And this article, as it is, only adds confusion. Unless someone objects or beats me to it I will in the time ahed redo and prune it for consistency with the other articles. Mikademus 14:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
It has gone a three months since I wrote the text above. Since there has been no objections I will shortly redo this article fundamentally:
- I will change the simulation game (this) article to a disambiguation page linking to "simulation game (table-top)" and "simulation game (computer)".
- I will extract all computer-related contents from the table-top article, but otherwise leave it intact since I feel that there are other, more qualified, editors to work on that page
- I will change the contents of the computer article to discuss the confusion inherent the "simulation" term, and then briefly outline what "simulation" means as a computer games super-genre and provide links to the major simulation sub-genres (f.i. flight simulators, racing games, etc).
Unless someone beats me to it, if course... Mikademus 13:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More work
Hello! I think this is a valuable article that could use some more work:
- Add links to example games to other Wikipedia articles (e.g., Caesar)
- Discuss role of sim games in education
-- Sitearm | Talk 09:44, 2005 August 7 (UTC)
[edit] Added material
I have added material which I have previously released under the GPL Version 2 and which I am now also releasing under the GFDL. My additions are now dual-licensed and can be reused under either license. I also added some links. Eterry 19:08, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] What about vehicle simulations?
Is it me, or does this article leave out a lot about flight simulations, tank simulations and the like? It seems especially odd to me considering that a lot of the games in this article are considered real-time strategy more than anything. Take the Age of Empires series, for example. -Escapeartist 17:08, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- There's also a lot of genres listed that I wouldn't consider related to simulation games. Role-playing games and RTSs, for instance. -SharkD 05:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WikiPrpject Role-playing games
There has just ben started a new Wikiproject regarding Role playing Games. If you would like to join, please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Role-playing games and ad your self. Angelbo 12:58, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Adding external link to ODP?
Can someone add Simulation at the Open Directory Project (suggest site) as an external link. Sahbbg 04:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)