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Contents 1 Can someone please alphabatize the caracters table 2 Games that Young Link and Link debued in 3 Smash Brothers Online 4 Series of First Game? 5 Is the Ice Climbers/Young Link/Mr. Game and Watch rumor false? 6 Non-playable fighters table fix 7 Protection request 8 Smash Syndicate Forums 9 Does Dark Link really have to be there? 10 Polygons and GameShark 11 Giga Bowser info 12 Super Smash Bros Brawl Princess Daisy 13 Yoshi 14 NPC Section: Aplhabatized or Not? 15 Smash Bros. For DS 16 Removed Zero Suit Samus from the character list 17 This article is suppossed to be about what the SSB series is "generally" about

[edit] Can someone please alphabatize the caracters table

it would make things alot esier, can someone do this.PLEASE?!? 041744

[edit] Games that Young Link and Link debued in

Which games do you think should be listed for Link's debut? I think LOZ for Young Link and Zelda II for adult, since Link was an adult like he is in Super Smash Bros in Zelda II, but still a child in LOZ. Takuthehedgehog 11:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Y'know...we could just look at the debut info on their trophies...RememberMe? 17:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smash Brothers Online

I'm going to remove that link, as a fan site known for being of notoriously poor quality and consists of 99% speculation of SSBB (and doesn't mention the other games in the series) does not belong here. Xubelox 23:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Poor quality my foot, but yeah. It's all speculation. Needs to be removed. RememberMe? 01:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Series of First Game?

Currently, it says the first game the characters appeared in, yet it says "Mario from Donkey Kong". I sounds like Mario was only from one game (Donkey Kong). I think It should say "Mario from the Mario Series", or at least, "Mario (debued in Donkey Kong). This goes for all other characters too. What are your thoughts? --Shadow2 18:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is the Ice Climbers/Young Link/Mr. Game and Watch rumor false?

If I'm not mistaken, wikipedia is a website for displaying facts, not frivilous rumors, especially when no reliable sources for information(like www.smashbros) have been displayed. The rumor, however, is from a very dubious source, a 1up article leading to an even more dubious French site.

If no visible evidence, like a screenshot of those characters fighting, has them appearing; the information should be changed or disputed.

EDIT: Sorry for informing you people, the character part has already been changed

http://www.livewii.fr/news/9350/Des-nouvelles-tetes-pour-Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl.html http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151290

(sigh) When will these people learn? It's a hoax. Unless Sakurai announces it himself, it's not true. I doubt an unreliable news source and a FAN VIDEO on Youtube is proof. It's only proof if it's listed on the official website. So we'll have to wait until the release or "if anything noteworthy comes out". Shadoman 14:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

For some reason, these people seem to believe anything they see. I say that if it isn't in an official trailer or on the official site (http://www.smashbros.com/en/main.html), we don't add it. Unoriginal Username 02:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Non-playable fighters table fix

The non-playable fighters table needs several fixes. I propose that Giant Donkey Kong be removed (he is hardly a special character - large versions of nearly all of the characters are fought in the single-player modes and it's just a permanent version of the mushroom power-up). Also, Sandbag is not a fighter. Unless we include an "other characters" section he should probably be removed. The existences of Metal Mario and Dark Link can be tolerated as a reference to the N64 game and prominent characters in adventure mode, but they're questionable.

Dark Link and maybe even Metal Mario need to go. If we include characters like them, why not characters like "Giant Bowser" (not Giga Bowser) because he was in that one Event match (along with Tiny Peach and Tiny Mario)? 199.126.137.209 00:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection request

People on the NSider Smash boards are having fun constantly vandalizing this page so that they can say "SO AND SO IS CONFIRMED!" or to prove that anyone can edit wikipedia by adding bogus info. Until this dies down, I suggest protection. 199.126.137.209 00:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smash Syndicate Forums

I've seen this forum linked over and over again on all of the Smash Bros. related articles. This forum has a whopping 19 members, and I'm pretty sure that puts it in the unnotable department. So if anyone sees the forum linked on any of the SSB related pages, do your best and delete it. Paji out ^_^ Comrade Pajitnov 22:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Does Dark Link really have to be there?

Dark Link is merely a palette swap of Link, with all the same attacks and all. I don't think its required to put him in the NPC sections.What do you think?Aramjm 15:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the characters who aren't significantly different or original. Axem Titanium 18:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks Axem Aramjm 20:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Polygons and GameShark

Is it possible to play as the polygons via a GameShark? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mathsexpressions (talk • contribs) 19:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Perfectly possible. Sign your comments please Aramjm 20:09, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Giga Bowser info

Okay, I added some info to Giga Bowser's part of the article a few days ago, and you guys deleted it all without giving a reason. I saw info on the attacks and stuff like that for the 2 hands, so why can't Giga Bowser have similar information? Plus, his REAL size is just about the same as Regular Bowser at twice normal size. Giga Bowser was the right size inadventure mode, but was made bigger than normal in Event Match 51... I did the comparison by using my Action Replay to put a half sized Giga Bowser, next to a normal size Regular Bowser, and they were just about THE EXACT SAME SIZE! All the other info on attacks I added was also researched using my Action Replay... I'd like it if you guys KEPT this info. And if you do decide to delete it, then you may as well delete the attack info on the other NPCs as well, because they all have Attack info, yet Giga Bowser didn't... Joe EchidnaFox 18:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yours was a little too detailed, so I made it shorter and better. Your welcome. Comrade Pajitnov 19:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to think that my edit summary was enough of a reason to delete it. I guess not. Maybe I should have linked it to WP:NOT#IINFO. Axem Titanium 20:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess you didn't read what I said... I said if Master Hand, Crazy Hand, and the Wire Frames and Polygons can have info on their attacks, then why can't Giga Bowser have that type of info too. Since you removed Giga Bowser's attack info, then the same should be done for the other NPC's as well... Plus, your edit summary simply said "rv game guide"...Joe EchidnaFox 00:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Wait, never mind, I see some attack info was kept...Joe EchidnaFox 00:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Super Smash Bros Brawl Princess Daisy

• Is Princess Daisy confirmed for Brawl and she is going to be in it for sure. And she will be using her own attacks for Brawl. 70.16.149.9 at verison 21

We can't put information in without sources, and I never saw anything about Daisy in Brawl. Depressio

[edit] Yoshi

Some videoes put on the official website say that Yoshi's Island is an arena in SSB:B. Surely this means Yoshi's in it? - Davros27

Yeah, you'd think, but no. It's still speculation. Axem Titanium 02:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree that it is speculation, but it is valid. For one, they are very unlikely to add an arena without the main character of that series/sub-series. Also, Yoshi is a very iconic character, and I doubt Nintendo would take him out. I think it would be very safe to assume Yoshi's in. Unoriginal Username 03:00, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPC Section: Aplhabatized or Not?

I aplhabatized this section a long time ago, but some people have changed it back. I guess they're trying to make it conform with the preceding section on NPCs, but I think it should be alphabatized to conform with the Characters table. What does everyone else think? Comrade Pajitnov 22:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Alphabetizing would help, as it would be easier to find a character if done. Aramjm 20:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smash Bros. For DS

There's no credible evidence for a DS game in the works, and the source included in the article doesn't support its claim. It merely says that a DS game "is not currently in the works, but is certain in the future" or something to that effect.

This looks like fan speculation and nothing more... 66.178.141.175 23:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I've removed it. A translator's interpretation that Sakurai is trying not to rule out the possibility of there ever being a DS version ever is far from a confirmation that Sakurai has expressed interest in making one. The translator merely stated this:

#111-120: Sakurai is thanking this guy for sending him an email from Korea (I guess no American sent a Japanese email). And Sakurai also says that there is no helping dreaming about a DS version of SSBB, but right now people should look forward to the Wii version that they are working so hard on.
Sounds like he doesn’t want to say for sure that there won’t eventually be a DS version…

The paragraph was up for months, more than enough time for the original contributor to find sources. Dancter 23:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Zero Suit Samus from the character list

She isn't a standalone character, as we all know, and is playable through in-game means, and thus is the same character. -Chao9999 07:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

However, the characters are still in the games, so taking them off the page doesn't make any sense. I'm adding them back in. Comrade Pajitnov 18:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

But it isn't a real character. They said that it was just going to be one Samus, and that one Samus can access the Zero Suit. So keeping them on the page doesn't make any sense. Because I think that keeping it on makes less sense than taking it off, I think it should be removed. ~ 71.126.173.111 22:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC) ~

That would be just fine and dandy, if it weren't for one tiny detail; it doesn't matter if Zero Suit Samus and Sheik aren't standalone characters, because they're still in the game. Just because you can't pick them from the character select screen (technically you can with Sheik, and we don't precisely know with Zero Suit Samus, it could change) does not mean they aren't in the game or anything. That's where removing them makes no sense. Comrade Pajitnov 00:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article is suppossed to be about what the SSB series is "generally" about

So why do we have whole sections on Giga Bowser, Fightig Wire Frames, Home-Run Contest, etc.? These sections should be merged with the SSBM article. They don't belong here. Besides, I think we can all agree that the SSBM article could use some more information.Tj terrorible1 15:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I agree with you. It's pointless to have those sub-sections on here. Comrade Pajitnov 19:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK, the sections on those characters used to be the content of a Smash series NPC article, and it was merged here by concensus. If there's now consensus to merge that into SSBM, then by all means. Erik Jensen ^{(Appreciate|Laugh At)} 23:44, 28 March 2007 (UTC)