User talk:TBC

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Contents 1 Other projects 2 Loofah is more common according to google 3 WikiReader 4 Hello 5 Amsterdam 6 Thanks 7 Here's the thing... 7.1 Replies to above comments(taken from Netoholic's talk page) 8 Thank you 9 List of Wikipedians 10 Simple? 11 your signature 12 Thank you 13 Hi 14 thankyou 15 Barnstar 16 Miscellaneous templates? 17 Templates and trailing spaces 18 Good articles? 19 misconceptions 20 Dates 21 Barnstar 22 Administrator 23 Email settings 24 Gaining Respect 25 Email 26 Beam (structure) 27 Welcome to Esperanza! 28 Requests for comments/Blockinblox on Simple English Wikipedia 29 Selective restoration

[edit] Other projects

Barnstars and so on are regarded as pretty much useless over here. If we grow, and have all the core articles sorted, then maybe. Also, would you mind changing your signature? The image isn't visible over here and I can't read any of the links in Mozilla. Archer7 17:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Loofah is more common according to google

[1] vs [2], and "luffa" isn't recognized by a UK dictionary at all[3] (and is just a variant according to a US dictionary[4]). I think it should be at loofah. Freshstart 22:18, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I've lived all my 45 years in the US and had never seen it spelled "luffa" until I saw you move it. Scanning the initial hits for luffa, it appears that that spelling is more common in scientific circles (which makes sense since that is the Latin/scientific name for the Genus), but loofah more common in the everyday vernacular (probably not really so much of an AE/BE issue). As for EN, I've sometimes seen an elitist streak there, which might explain why they seem to be using the scholar's spelling instead of the common people's. Freshstart 23:15, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

I haven't really changed my mind, but won't lose any sleep over it either way. I need to get back to work. Freshstart 03:40, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiReader

Would you mind taking a look at my WikiReader proposal on Wikipedia:Simple talk? I think it could be a fantastic way to go for the Simple English encyclopedia. Archer7 16:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Why do you think I am a vandal? I have written many nice stories on here, and am trying very hard to write good stories. Please can you look at them for me. I was banned from the English Wikipedia, and it was supposed to stop today, but they have forgotten to unban me. I was not banned for vandalism. I was banned because I wanted to improve an article on the Port Arthur massacre and add references, when the article had no references before. I did not vandalise any article. I tried to make them good. 203.122.203.145 12:35, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Not a vandal? Then why were you banned from the English Wikipedia?--TBCΦtalk? 08:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amsterdam

Actually, it's not that unsourced. Besides that it's well-known that indeed many tourists come for the red light district and the coffeeshops, it was also in the papers a few years ago that tourists gave it the nr.1 reason to be in Amsterdam.
Furthermore, Amsterdam has no dikes. The Netherlands does, nearby the sea, but Amsterdam isn't nearby the sea at all. 213.84.109.51 16:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar, it's much appreciated! I just wish I could be around a bit more now. Archer7 - talk 18:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Here's the thing...

You're making an all-too-common mistake that many people make when they com from en: wikipedia. You feel like simple is missing some very critical templates, categories, and articles... and are just copying them here to help. I understand that desire. What you need to realize is that "Simple" does not just refer to the language. We choose to focus on core articles. We use a small set of templates and a very loose categorization. We are not another en: wikipedia. You will find that several things you've added are going to be deleted; and where you've intentionally created stubs, you'll be asked to merge the articles into more major areas. -- Netoholic @ 06:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Core articles are about what you'd learn in school during a typical education, or "one step removed". Simple will not be another index of video games. Merge the same information into one article. See Sega for example. -- Netoholic @ 06:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

IF you would like to redirect them to Lower Saxony, I am not opposed. Just do not intentionally leave dozens of stubs around. All that does is require more work from people in the future. Quaiity is emminently better than quantity here. -- Netoholic @ 07:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

RfD is for pages which require discussion. -- Netoholic @ 07:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Nothing about what I've said should make you feel like I think you did anything but act in good faith. CORE is not a policy, it is a philosophy, to keep Simple from drifting into complexity. -- Netoholic @ 07:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Meta:Foundation issues describes the core items wiki's need to follow. The "wiki process" as the final authority on content. Consensus, per se, is not mentioned. When someone comes out of nowhere and starts creating dozens of intentional stubs and complex templates, etc... I think the proper wiki process is to contact that party and reverse things to a more natural editing pace. -- Netoholic @ 07:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replies to above comments(taken from Netoholic's talk page)

Deleting articles created out of good faith without any discussion or consensus whatsoever is a clear violation of Wikipedia's basic guidelines. Please remember that Wikipedia is a community-based project.--TBCΦtalk? 06:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Also, why did you delete all the district articles? Couldn't you have redirected them to Lower Saxony?--TBCΦtalk? 06:59, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Even so, you shouldn't be speedily deleting them without any discussion. If you personally feel they violated WP:CORE, you should have nominated it on WP:RfD instead.--TBCΦtalk? 07:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

BTW, speaking of RfD, could you please restore the recently deleted articles and then nominate them on RfD instead?--TBCΦtalk? 07:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I urge you to stop speedy deleting articles immediately without discussion. As I've stated before, this is clearly violating Wikipedia's principle's on consensus and community.--TBCΦtalk? 07:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:CORE is a very vague policy. It doesn't explain clearly how important a subject has to be to be considered a "core" article. Thus, due to this issue, discussion on WP:RfD is highly reccomended, especially since the above articles were obviously created out of good faith.--TBCΦtalk? 07:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

If you think what I did was in good faith and not vandalism, then why did you delete it without discussion? Please, for the love of god, restore the articles and nominate it on RfD so that the community can decide if applies to WP:CORE or not, like what a Wiki is meant to be.--TBCΦtalk? 07:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you trying to say that Wikipedia is not based on consensus? Then's what's the point of having pages such as RfA, RfD, or ESP? By "wiki process", the Foundation Issues page is clearly referring to the collaborative nature of wiki's. Also, why can't you just restore the articles and nominate them on RfD instead? If it really does fail the WP:CORE policy, then would it really matter either way? Cheers, --TBCΦtalk? 07:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar Ksbrown 18:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Wikipedians

Blocking I was blocked on en., so I was using this as a sandbox. You'll see that I'm putting {{delete}} on these pages, too. Koavf 17:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Simple?

I think that welcome message was the most complex simple English I've ever read. ;) Anyway, thanks for the welcome. Cheers! BillG | Talk 12:40, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your signature

Thank you for removing the smiley image from your signature, since that's a bad practice for many reasons and now shows up on dozens of pages. I think you can go further also by removing the font tags, just so that the page source is easy to read. -- Netoholic @ 20:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

TBC, thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate it. :) Happy editing, Tangotango 16:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Just wondering if there is such thing as "Good Articles" and "Featured Articles", like in the main English Wikipedia??? RaNdOm26 17:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thankyou

thanks for changing my article on Dora the Explorer so quickly Mcc 23:07, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

A barnstar for your work here!

Dear TBC, you have been a great user here. Thank you for your great contributions. Keep them coming! -- Tdxiang @ 09:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Darn, txdiang, you beat me to it! I would like to thank you, TBC, for your tireless yearbox-ing and categorizing. Keep up the great work! PullToOpen ^Talk/_Contribs 21:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

• Tdxiang, Tdxiang! Wah lau eh, why you spell wrongly, har, har, har??

Nah, it's okay... do you want me to double-barnstar TBC, PullToOpen?-- Tdxiang @ 11:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miscellaneous templates?

On the template I made, Template:Clear, what do you mean by a Miscellaneous template? cuz I'm sort-of confused but I actually got this from Template:Clear. thanx. --§ Alastor Moody _{(T + C)} 06:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates and trailing spaces

Hi TBC, thank you for categorizing all those templates :) I've noticed that in several instances you've inadvertently inserted a trailing line break while categorizing templates, meaning that they now leave a new line in articles where they're used. In some cases, this is not a problem; in other cases, they make the page look a bit ugly. When you categorize a template, please be sure to put the <noinclude> right after the last ending tag in the template; leave no spaces or new lines. For example, if a template ends with |}, do:

|}<noinclude>
[[Category:Nice templates]]
</noinclude>

instead of

|}

<noinclude>
[[Category:Nice templates]]
</noinclude>

Thanks, and happy editing! - Tangotango (talk) 09:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good articles?

Are there any very good articles around here that I could use as a model for writing good Simple English? Is there some sort of list or category that lists the best articles in Simple Wiki (a bit like featured articles in English Wiki)????? RaNdOm26 17:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] misconceptions

I'll have to agree with Alastor Moody and Archer7. Though you may be a bureaucrat, please don't act without consensus from the community or warn users who's edits were in good intention, as such is a breach of both Wikipedia's guidelines on civility and assuming good faith.--TBCΦtalk? 01:43, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The fact that you had to interwiki link to those policies on EN should give you a clue. Those are not Simple English policies. They are good philosophies, and ones I am not disputing. Simple Wikipedia is not "another" EN wikipedia. The only rules we must follow are meta:Foundation issues. People come here exactly because they are tired of EN or other wikipedias. Tired of exhaustive processes and rules, tired of unproductive elements that forget what we are for. -- Netoholic @ 02:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dates

Hello, TBC. Please note that dates go like this:Numerals first, then the month. Thank you!-- Tdxiang 10:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Please note that it doesn't matter how dates are written, as their appearance can be automatically changed through "my preferences". See m:Help:Preferences#Date format for details.--TBCΦtalk? 10:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Congratulations: You have been awarded a Barnstar! I, James Paul am very happy to give you this barnstar for your hard work. You are a blessing.--Sir James Paul 03:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Keep up the good work TBC.--Sir James Paul 03:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Administrator

Congratulations TBC, you are now an administrator! Remember to check your email regularly, and don't be afraid to ask another admin for help if you need it. Congratulations once again, Archer7 - talk 23:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

• You deserve it, pal. All the best mopping while I am away, being desysopped! :)-- Tdxiang 10:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Email settings

Hello, TBC

it appears that you do not have a working E-mail this user link. As this is kindly requested as a pre-requisite for any new sysop to come, could you please check:

• If you have entered a valid email in your own preferences
• If you have confirmed the email
• If you have checked the box Enable e-mail from other users

Thank you in advance, M7 01:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi TBC, sorry I assumed you'd already set this up (most admin candidates seem to have their email already confirmed). Receiving email is quite important for an admin, especially if you plan to block people. If you're having trouble sorting out your email, want to know more about what it'll be used for etc, drop me a note. Archer7 - talk 11:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

TBC, could you give me an update on this? If you're worried about privacy, you can easily set up an account with 'TBC' as the display name. Thanks, Archer7 - talk 14:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

It's not working. Could you check in your preferences if you've checked the box? Archer7 - talk 17:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gaining Respect

Do you think that fighting vandalism will help me gain respect quickly in the community? Also what else should I do to gain respect?--Sir James Paul 21:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Email

Hi TBC, I've sent you an email a few days ago. Could you take a quick look and tell me what you think? Thanks, Archer7 - talk 13:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beam (structure)

I have simplified now. If you think that is enough and the meaning did not change please take out "unsimple". --Cethegus 16:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!

[edit] Requests for comments/Blockinblox on Simple English Wikipedia

Hey, I'm closing the RfC at Meta and tranwiki'ing it over here. Is there any page you can direct me that I could post the contents from Meta discussion to? I saw Simple talk, but I wasn't sure if that was the best place. Thanks in advance! Nishkid64 21:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I decided to be bold and move the discussion to simple:Wikipedia:Simple talk#Statement of the dispute. Hopefully, that's the proper location. Nishkid64 22:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Selective restoration

I have done a selective restoration on your talk page to get rid of the link that was added by a vandal to your talk page. The link was to a website that had personal information of everybody's favorite KMcA on it. Cheers, PTO 23:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)