Talk:Acorn

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Contents 1 dis or no? 2 resolved 3 ACORN SEED GERMINATION 4 Added to project 5 Native Americans eating them

[edit] dis or no?

Hi Jim - someone moved acorn to acorn (seed) and then made a disambig page out of acorn, including 3 other items which have acorn as part of their name (but not their full name). As all of the links pointing at acorn referred to oak seeds, not any of the other items, I've moved the disambig content to a new page acorn (disambiguation), but the wiki software only allows an admin person to move acorn (seed) back to acorn - could you do so, please? (also posting this to one or two other admin folk as well, in case you're not around at the moment) Thanks - MPF 09:27, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Many thanks! - MPF 09:58, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting the Acorn page and the disambig. MPF wasn't quite correct there are a number of links to the seed that actually refer to the computer, but I should be able to correct those by hand. Sorry to you and MPF for any inconvience. -- LegCircus

Would it not be better for all inquiries to "Acorn" go to the disambiguation, and people specify from the disambiguation? If not, please explain why. -- LegCircus

If articles are of equal status, eg US towns sharing the same name, a disambiguation page titled with that name would be appropriate. If one use is clearly more important than the others, eg Paris France, then that holds the name, while all the other uses of Paris go on the disambiguation page. Another example is Penguin.

It is my view that the large majority of people searchinging for acorn will be expecting the seed of the oak tree, so that should be the direct link, with other uses on the disamb page. It also avoids having to change so many links. Jim

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Thank you for your reply.

Google returns ACORN the community organization as being more requested than infomation on acorns, as is the computer company. To justify bypassing the nut you'd have to believe the nut by itself accounts for over half of requests for acorn. I would have trouble believing this. By using the disambiguation all topics are equal, whereas refering straight to the nut may causes people unfamiliar with disambig to perhaps think what they are looking for isn't there, or too difficult to find. --LegCircus 05:43, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)

I think my Beatle beats your Penguin. --LegCircus 05:47, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)

I've never heard of ACORN, and if it's normally capitalised, that distinguishes it anyway. As I indicated, and I think you agree, some articles are more equal than others, so the question is whether this is the case for acorn. Jim

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I think that (all meanings of acorn other than the nut) > (acorn the nut). As far as ACORN is concerned, you've probably heard of predatory lending and living wage. The campaigns associated with these terms were started by ACORN.

Additionally, more people are familiar with Homer as a cartoon character (father of Bart) than with the blind guy. You see where I'm going with this...

LegCircus

Hi Leg - of the 50 or so links pointing at acorn, all but two referred to oak seeds, various oak species pages, animals that eat acorns, etc, etc. And as Jim points out, it makes far more sense to leave all these as they are. When you'd been changing them to acorn (seed), you'd only picked up about a quarter of them, leaving most still pointed at your disambig page. If I was looking for the computer in a search, I'd not look for "acorn", I'd look for "acorn computer". And for those who do look under acorn, the disambig page is clearly posted; that is the normal proceedure for Wikipedia, as witness the {{alternateuses}} way of directing automatically to a disambig page (this wouldn't work your way round). - MPF 14:27, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I had not finished yet, I was working on it.

Just because you would search for "acorn computer" or "acorn community organiztion" doesn't mean everyone should have to.

However, I will yield if you and Jim will allow the convention apple embodies.

--LegCircus 20:36, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)

I've no problem with an expanded disambig sentence like the one at apple, if that's what you're meaning - MPF 23:45, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] resolved

Then I believe the issue is resolved.

--LegCircus 15:44, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)

I added more recent nutritional and ecological information. Nan Hannon 01:41, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ACORN SEED GERMINATION

Nearby where I work stood a very large tall Oak tree. Majestic. Today I discovered it was being cut down. Why? I am clueless. There were at least 7 workers to remove this Oak tree. As I watched it come down, acorns were being strewn all over the place. I collected a few that fell my way. How can I get them to grow or germinate to one day become a tree again? I hope someone out there can answer this question. Thanks

Hi , are you still looking for info? I have grown some oaks from acorns (acorns planted 4 years ago, the resulting oak tree shoots are now strong, and about 3 feet tall ). Date when you wrote query was not specific, so don't know if you still need info.

Veduny 22:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added to project

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[edit] Native Americans eating them

Doesn't that seem kind of unrealistic, despite being true? I mean, what, a group of them has acorns for lunch, they all die, so one of the dudes that didn't have any tries boiling them, despite the relative difficulty in procuring water, fire, and a vessel; and this time only half the people that eat them die.. so they boil them twice, etc etc... until finally they've hit upon a safe food? What kind of people would even try a poisonous food a second time?