User talk:Ageo020/Archive 1

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 A short Esperanzial update 3 Jolly Roger 4 India links 5 Pradip Somasundaran 6 Auckland University 7 Pradip Somasundaran 8 Your user page 9 External links reverted 10 Pradip Smasundaran 11 Hi.. 12 From Gluewhale 13 The rich get richer and the poor get poorer 14 Bijaya Jena 15 Hey What Happened?? 16 Chiricheppu exists 17 August Esperanza Newsletter 18 New Zealander-Israeli relations 19 List of suspected socks of User:S.Jithesh 20 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nili Tal 21 Barnstar of Diligence 22 Happy New Year! 23 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pablo Pérez Gay Rossbach 24 Persistent Systems on deletion review 25 Deville's RfA 26 GIen's RfA: Thank you! 27 Re: The Emily Duggan article. 28 RFA thanks 29 Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Runcorn 30 RfA message 31 Teke's RfA thanks 32 My RfA 33 RfA thanks 34 Hi. 35 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japan-Oceania relations 36 A RfA thank you from en:User:Xyrael 37 Thanks 38 Winhunter's RfA thanks

[edit] Welcome

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[edit] A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

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[edit] Jolly Roger

Hi
Re. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jolly Roger Restaurant The stub for deletion was cut out of Lake City, Seattle, Washington at Storied past. The cut was soon repaired, but this scrap was left over. (Perhaps the editor should have been experimenting at WP:Sandbox].) The stub should have been sent via WP:PROD.

In light of further info (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jolly Roger Restaurant), and that the topic already exists in complete form in the context of its neighborhood (expanded and per Wikipedia:Manual of style, would you consider changing your vote? For Wikipedia, I would prefer disposing of this odd snippet, rather than leaving a scrap lying about. Thank you --GoDot 09:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Dear sir
Re. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jolly Roger Restaurant, I am seeking consensus. Toward meeting your interests, the topic already exists in improved and complete form, per Wikipedia standards, in context, at Lake City, Seattle, Washington#Storied past. The piece was chopped out by a newbie. The damage was soon repaired, and I've been trying to clean up this uprooted duplicate leftover. For Wikipedia quality, I would prefer disposing of this odd snippet, rather than leaving a scrap lying about. I am the original researcher and author of the topic in the article, post [1]. The Jolly Roger story is an integral part of the character of Lake City, but it is otherwise not particularly encyclopedic.

So toward consenus, would you change your vote? Thank you for your consideration. --GoDot 11:08, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] India links

Hello! Here are some India related links that may interest you:

	Links for Wikipedians interested in India content
Newcomers: Welcome kit | Register: Indian Wikipedians | Network: Noticeboard | Discussionboard Browse: India | Open tasks | Deletions Contribute content: Collaboration Dashboard - India WikiProject - Wikiportal India - Indian current events - Category adoptions

Also see the Kerala Noticeboard. Cheers, and happy editing! -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}05:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pradip Somasundaran

This is a message to all Category:Kerala Wikipedians

I want your opinion on this particular person Pradip Somasundaran. He claims to be a famous singer in Kerala. Now being a Malayalee, I have not heard of this person before, so I wonder whether or not you have heard of him before and set this issue straight. If so, then please let your opinion be counted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pradip Somasundaran. Please note that by voicing your opinion as a Malayalee/Keralite will add more weight to your words.

Many Thanks --Ageo020 21:42, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ageo

I don't know why you are still insisting on deleting Pradip's article. Can't you see the number of votes which he has recieved from the ordinary people of Kerala. Even though being a Malayali, you have not heard of Pradipettan's greatness. Shame on you. It is people like you who destroy a man's credibility and fame in 10 minutes which took him a lifetime to create. You put your silly opinions on AFD such as google hits and what on but the poor ordinary working class people of Kerala who find relief in the music of such greats such as Pradip will look down upon you. You still see darkness when the light is shining upon you.--130.216.191.84 23:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auckland University

Hello! Thanks for the note on Pradeep Somasundaran. However, I'm not sure how you discovered this page and am a bit confused by this edit of yours. Why did you link it to Auckland University? A reply would be much appreciated. Thanks. -- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}16:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, never mind that question. Thanks for repling though. I was confused because my "Welcome" page at User:Deepujoseph/welcome is not listed in Category:Kerala Wikipedians. My concern was because I might have substituted the template somewhere, thus providing a wrong link to a new user. However all occurences of link changing by the malfunctioning proxy has been reverted. So no worries. Happy wikiing!-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}13:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pradip Somasundaran

SORRY FOR EXTREMELY LATE Hi, The guy is a singer and not so famous. But I know him as he was a professor too. he got some awards for contests like "Meri Awaz Suno" conducted at National level in the 90s.

Tux the penguin 21:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your user page

Hi! I noticed on your user page that you identify yourself as an admin. Since you aren't an admin, I strongly suggest you remove you the box. JoshuaZ 19:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, please explain why you made the claim. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 19:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

About my page in which i made an admin claim, I'm sorry. I just copied that section from another user's page. I line checked the code but i think i may have overseen this. Really sorry if this caused any trouble. Thanks User:Ageo020 --Ageo020 00:57, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Its ok. Don't worry about it. JoshuaZ 01:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links reverted

Some external links on this page seem to have been automatically changed by an overenthusiastic proxy sever. I am changing this back to prevent the links being followed by mistake, and apologize for popping the new-message banner up; see the end of WP:AN for the explanation. You can disregard this message. --ais523 16:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pradip Smasundaran

I have not issued any legal threats. I only told that I will go to the arbitration committe, not outside wiki. Please re-read my statement there again.I also do not have anything personal against you. You did your job. I did mine. That's all. If you do not have anything against pradip you should learn to stop giving personal remarks even after this issue is over now. I did not ask your opinion again. So why did you say it again? You already made your point there on the discussion page. Now why again say this to me?? Means you still have not got over this issue. There are thousands of such deletion issues here. If we go on taking all as our personal problem we will all be mad one day. After all somasundaran is not related to me or you! Just that I know more about him than you. Please do not work like this. The right thing would have been to counter the opinions there on the discussion page. Saying again and again that "Bush is not the president of the US" will not make it so! I may not want him to be president but he was voted to power by democracy! So that means he is popular. Same here. There are thousands of others who are his fans and know him in Kerala and abroad. If you do not know about him that does not mean that all should stop knowing him. Do not force your opinion on others. Live and let live! So just forget this issue. let's work together for improving the musician related articles here rather than being "paaras" for each other. Already we malayalees have this bad image of having intolerance against one another. Happy friendship day Ageo! No hard feelings man. Please do not hesitate to seek my help on any issue you might have in future. I also will do the same. God bless you. Amen! --Gluewhale 11:07, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi..

Ageo, No hard feelings man.. I had only one thing that I didnt like.. The way some people, including you, commented that 'I havent heard of him, so delete'. That was the driving power we had to counter. As we know, wiki and internet will not have details unless someone puts it up. As some of the participants did, It is safer to take a neutral stand if you are unaware of it.

Anyways, past is past.. lets work together to get things up. I have a small request.. Heard that you had sent personal messages to pradip. Please settle that with him, if it is true. It takes a lot to be a person of his calibre. This is not an embarrassment or something, just a courtesy.

Just take a look at തനി മലയാളം ബ്ലോഗുകള്‍when you get a chance.

Regards --Jyothis 04:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] From Gluewhale

Ageo. Thank you for admitting your mistake. This means you are sincere. We are all here to volunteer our free time for something creative. As wiki norms suggest everyone who contributes does so with a good intntion. Even the person who masqueraded as pradip somasundaran might have had good intentions. But he might not have had any details to make the article look good ar stand. So I will blame only the person who immediately put it for deletion instead of giving a call for its updation. But it's just coincidence that I joined here by the end of the fight there. By that time jyothis had already collected lot of info which we all did not know. We should always have an open mind in such cases when celebrities are involved. we may not have the knowneldge in a particular field to make hasty decesions. So wait and watch is the best policy.Also there was nothing improper here too. After all we were not dealing with any objectionable material or matter of utmost importance. Then I also collected details from my available sources and now the article gives a very good picture of the person. This is our job here.I also plan to write abount many such people, as I am in cochin and can get first hand information from them. Anyway past is past. I already told you, I absolutely do not have anything against you. What I fought was for justice and dignity. So just forgive me too if I had bee a little rough. I am not like that personally. We will need each other's co-operation again that I have decided to be here for long.Whatever I do will be with sincere intention of expanding the knowledge of people by providing fist hand information even on the tiniest of important things! Thank you. I appreciate your action. Have you visited somasundaram's blog? Great music blog. None of the singers in Kerala have a blog of that kind. You can also leave a nice comment on his blog. God bless you. Amen. --GlueWhale 07:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The rich get richer and the poor get poorer

What do you think know that the article has been rewritten and the phrase has been traced back far before the Reagan presidency? Gazpacho 21:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bijaya Jena

The first AFD debate was on an article whose entire content consisted of the sentence "This is a place holder for Bijaya Jena, an actor, producer and director." That article was deleted, and then a new, much longer article was written in its stead. You can start a new AFD if you'd like (which you would do by adding "(second nomination)" to the AFD title, not by linking back to the original debate), but the original AFD does not stand as a legitimate reason to delete an entirely different version of the article. Bearcat 00:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey What Happened??

Ageo worried to see that notice of mental ability...stuff. Hope you are fine. If you are not well I will pray for your sound health. God Bless you brother. Amen! GlueWhale 17:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chiricheppu exists

Ageo, Thanks. I am relieved that you are well. Chiricheppu does exist. But there are thousands of such magazines here in Kerala. The claims of 50,000 circulation copies may not be true though. See my comments on the deletion page. GlueWhale 01:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] August Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] New Zealander-Israeli relations

I noticed you identified yourself as a Wikipedian in New Zealand. You may be interested in New Zealander-Israeli relations. Respectfully, Republitarian 23:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of suspected socks of User:S.Jithesh

• Nooranadu mohan(user • talk • contribs)
• Fundoomal(user • talk • contribs)
• Nileena joseph(user • talk • contribs)
• Adv sreekumar(user • talk • contribs)
• Harikumarbabu(user • talk • contribs)
• Cartoonist jithesh(user • talk • contribs)
• P.C.Sanalkumar.I.A.S(user • talk • contribs)
• Babupaul(user • talk • contribs)

Its better if we keep an eye on these guys, since all they do is contribute to chiricheppu.--Ageo020 00:49, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Rightly said Ageo. Yo should put the above facts on the AFD page of Chiricheppu, so that all others get know that these so called supporters have nothing to contribute for wiki, other than throwing irresponsible remarks and threats on our user pages. GlueWhale 01:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Add one more name to it :-) If the issue is serious there is the option for Checkuser, but in this case so far the these people have been fairly harmless and have also given us a few good laughs. Tintin (talk) 14:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nili Tal

I saw your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nili Tal. I wanted to let you know that I have added some references to the artice Nili Tal, so I hope that it is better now. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 05:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar of Diligence

Thank you vey much for the Barnstar. Of course, I wish that my work saving articles from deletion wasn't necessary. I wish nominators wouldn't be so hasty with nominations for problem articles. Often, a bad article can be salvaged with a little research and copy-editing. TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 11:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year!

ചിങ്ങമാസം വന്നേ.....ഓണം ഇനി ദിവസങ്ങള്‍ മാത്രം അകലെ... ഈ കാത്തിരിപ്പിനും ഒരു സുഖം.....പുതുവല്‍സരാശംസകള്‍ നേരുന്നു....ഈ വര്‍ഷം സന്തോഷങ്ങളും ഐശ്വര്യങ്ങളും നിറഞ്ഞതായിരിക്കെട്ടെ എന്നാശംസിക്കുന്നു-- thunderboltz^{a.k.a.Deepu Joseph |TALK}14:45, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pablo Pérez Gay Rossbach

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia; it is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

You voted keep. That could have skewed the discussion such that the nonsense would have been kept. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Persistent Systems on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Persistent Systems. Since you nominated this article, your views will be greatly appreciated in the above review. BlueValour 17:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

Please stop vandalizing RfA discussions.

Thanks, Gwernol 22:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Look at a diff of yours, like [2]. Something strange is going on. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok that. I am behind Auckland university's proxy server. Hence it adds that '.ezproxy.auckland.ac.nz' thing . Please do not consider it as vandalism. --Ageo020 22:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Could you put my Rfa vote back as well. Thanks --Ageo020 22:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I didn't believe it was intentional vandalism. I put it back; you should cease editing from behind a strangely misconfigured proxy. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I owe you an apology, I was hasty in labeling this as vandalism. The proxy insertion thing looked like vandalism and I missed your vote in amongst the diff. Thanks to BunchOfGrapes for fixing it. Gwernol 22:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deville's RfA

Hello, Ageo020, and thank you for the support on my recent RfA. The final tally was 72/1/0, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I'll be tentative with the new buttons for a while, and certainly welcome any and all feedback on how I might be able to use them to help the project. All the best, and thanks again! — Deville (Talk) 03:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GIen's RfA: Thank you!

Ageo020 for your Support! II feel truly humbled & honored by your support in my RfA, which closed at 90 / 5 / 0. Thank you! If you need me for anything, just say the word. For now however, just like Mr Potter here: My mop & I shall thwart all evil :) IThank you once again my friend. GIen

PS: YES YOU'RE RIGHT HARRY POTTER USES A BROOM! (BUT GOOD MOPS ARE HARD TO FIND!!)

[edit] Re: The Emily Duggan article.

I think this article is a very valid one indeed. It is not advertising, it is simply allowing the public to recognize a talented writer who may soon become one recognized nationally. Would it not be wonderful, then, to have the first intensive records of such a young phenomenon? Would it not present you in the light of having trust in such a figure from her earliest days? Surely this would be a gain worth receiving, and considering the contribution to the public, I implore you to allow this article to remain here, until there is need for it to be edited in order to meet the demands of her public. Imagine, then, a larger audience, and more demand-- surely these benefits would also be crucial to the upkeeping of this spectacular resource. You will be making a wise decision, then, to let this little article remain sturdy and sound, until such time that, as is the essence of fame, it grows and grows and grows and blossoms magnificently, and your own public along with it.

[edit] RFA thanks

Thanks so much for your support on my RFA, which closed successfully this morning with a result of (64/3/3). I will be stepping lightly at first trying to make sure I don't mess up too badly using the tools. Any further advice/guidance will be gratefully accepted. I hope I will live up to your trust! --NawlinWiki talk contribs

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Runcorn

If you haven't looked recently, you might like to check out the recent discussions there. Tyrenius 06:34, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA message

		My RfA video message
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[edit] Teke's RfA thanks

Thank you for your support of my RfA, which has passed with a final tally of 76/1/1. With this overwhelming show of support and approval I am honored to serve Wikipedia in the task charged to me and as outlined in my nomination. Happy editing to you! Teke^(talk) 17:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks! Thank you very much for your comments on my recent Request for Adminship. The request was ultimately unsuccessful - which wasn't entirely surprising - and so I'll be taking special care to address your concerns before running again. If you have any feedback for me, please don't hesitate to leave it at my talk page. Thanks! -- RandyWang (chat/patch) 14:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you very much for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully today with a result of (62/18/3). I will go very carefully at first, trying to make sure I don't mess up too badly using the tools, and will begin by re-reading all the high-quality feedback I received during the process, not least from those who opposed me. Any further advice/guidance will be gratefully accepted. I hope I will live up to your trust! Guinnog 14:54, 30 August 2006 (UTC)}

[edit] Hi.

Either Wikipedia has some sort of thingy that randomly selects a username to use to send welcomes to new users, or you're the new welcome monkey. I don't know...

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Japan-Oceania relations

Really? I bet we could find enough info to justify separate Japan-(nation in Oceania) pages like Japan-Tonga relations or Japan-Samoan relations. If I'm able to find some info along these lines, would you consider changing your vote? Regards, Ya ya ya ya ya ya 01:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Have you seen the other Foreign relations of Japan articles? There's tons and they do it all based on individual nations' bilateral relations. I'm thinking of proposing a guideline on the pages - trying to get a consensus on how to write these pages. Regards, Ya ya ya ya ya ya 05:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A RfA thank you from en:User:Xyrael

I'd like to thank you Ageo020 for either supporting, opposing, commenting, nominating, reading, editing, promoting and/or anything else that you may have done for my successful request for adminship (I've broken the one thousand sysop barrier!); I'm thanking you for getting involved, and for this I am very grateful. I hope to be able to serve Wikipedia more effectively with my new tools and that we can continue to build our free encyclopedia, for knowledge is power, but only wisdom is liberty. Please do feel free to get in touch if you feel you can improve me in any way; I will be glad to listen to all comments. Again, thanks 8)             —Xyrael / 11:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the welcome! Atlantic Gateways 22:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winhunter's RfA thanks

Hi Ageo020, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful today with a finaly tally of (56/0/3). I will be very careful at first to avoid any mistakes. Please feel free to leave a message in my talk page if you have any comments/suggestions about me in the future. Once again, thank you! --WinHunter (talk) 09:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)