Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/36 Madison Avenue

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Non-verifiability is indeed a valid reason for delete. Deathphoenix ʕ 04:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 36 Madison Avenue

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NN college a cappella group. WP:MUSIC - crz crztalk 21:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

• Please see the list of collegiate a cappella groups. Many of these groups have Wikipedia entries that are similar to this one, and are not being considered for deletion. I would like to know what makes this page different, so it can be rectified. Collegiate a cappella groups are an important part of the cultures of their colleges, and 36 Madison Avenue is extremely important to Drew University. Craazycarolyn 22:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree. Collegiate a cappella has become a big part of the popular music scene in colleges and universities. The annual Best of College A Cappella albums are extremely popular CDs on college campuses and beyond. The popularity of webpages such as Acatunes is also proof that collegiate a cappella groups are in the public eye. I think it is clear that 36 Madison Avenue is no less notable than the other collegiate groups with wikipedia entries. PixiesAreNice 22:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Inclusion is not an indication of notability. Or in simpler terms, just because other a cappella groups have articles on Wikipedia right now, doesn't mean they should. It's just no one's got around to deleting them. Please see Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion of articles on musical groups. Basically, if you can find multiple articles in real newspapers (not school newspapers) written about your group, then it deserves to be kept, and I'll change my vote. Otherwise, I endorse the nominator.
      • Comment Per the ongoing discussion at the WP:N discussion page [1] college newspapers are not excluded as sources of information about college a capellaa groups, nor are they excluded as one of the multiple independent verifiable and reliable sources needed to establish notability. Edison 23:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:MUSIC. Also Delete all on everything without sources in list of collegiate a cappella groups. cab 22:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• keep Lack of sources displayed in an article is not sufficient cause to delete the article. Most Wikipedia articles currently lack any references at all. It is not appropriate to single out only college a capella groups for this basis for deletion and ignore hundreds of thousands of other articles. The article asserts some claim to notability and has at lleast some sources. Edison 23:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment see Wikipedia:Verifiability. Nuttah68 13:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete -- every a capella group on every campus tours, releases CDs, and occasionally gets put on a compilation. Dylan 23:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• 'Delete as per above. The group may have been featured on compilations, but so has every other campus acapella group. Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 00:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:MUSIC, almost none of these a capella groups are notable by the criteria of WP:MUSIC. Don't see any evidence of WP:CORP either, which they would need to meet to establish themselves as organizations notable for their campus presence. Does the college chess team get an article too? --Beaker342 00:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as student group at a single school, and precedent for deleting similar groups. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:36, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Keep, as this group has won numerous awards in recent time, such as outstanding soloist and outstanding vocal percussion, at the International Championship of Collegiate A Cappella, qualifying them under criterion 8, which states "Has won or placed in a major music competition." Julesrbf 19:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete no evidence of notability offered. Nuttah68 13:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.