Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ray Stevenson

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 07:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ray Stevenson

Ray Stevenson (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Unremarkable trade unionist and political activist. Writing career seems limited to a magazine for a fringe political party, apart from his unpublished manuscript. Lacks reliable sources, fails WP:BIO. One Night In Hackney 00:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - Active trade unionist and communist politician who partook in many activities around Canada, is well known at York (where his manuscripts are) and the Universty of Toronto. --Mista-X 17:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - Fails WP:BIO. -- Chabuk ^{[ T • C ]} 22:21, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - if York University thinks he's notable enough to keep nine metres of his records in their archives, I think there should be a tiny little corner of Wikipedia available for him. Ground Zero | t 22:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete WP:Verifiability is not negotiable; this lacks reliable sources. I'll change my vote if some are found.--Cúchullain ^t/c 23:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - the Northstar Compass link is now to his obituary there. I think notability is established, in combination with the York U archive. (Limiting the google search to site:yorku.ca is helpful. -- Bpmullins | Talk 00:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment Actually that raises a slight problem, most of the article is a possible copyright violation now. One Night In Hackney 03:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

• comment - How so? I wrote the article and it is reworded based on the different sources including the NSC. Plus permission to use anything has been given from NSC anyways, which I could verify if necessary. --Mista-X 17:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

• The article was not re-written. Compare [1] and [2]. Feel free to check just the first paragraph, it is word for word the same. Do not remove the copyvio tags again, or re-insert the disputed text. If permission has been granted, this should be established first. One Night In Hackney 23:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep: Notability is borderline, but Wikipedia is not paper. Problems like sources, verifiability, copyright etc. can be fixed. Peter Grey 18:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, was a senior official of the World Peace Council in the 1970s when it was a notable organization. Notability also established by a major university holding his archives. Bulk needs to be rewritten for copyvio or permission needs to be obtained from original publisher. --Duke of Duchess Street 03:56, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. GreenJoe 19:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. I have rewritten the article to remove POV, deadlinks and the possible copyright violation. I have removed the COPYVIO tag. If anyone feels there is still concern about copryright, the tag can be readded. I ask that those who have voted here review the article to see if my re-write has addressed their concerns. Ground Zero | t 20:30, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Quarl ^(talk) 08:53, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• Question I read on his obituary he was the Canadian secretary of the World Peace Council. At first I assumed it would be a somewhat minor role, but according to the WPC article the Secretariat are one of the governing bodies. The WPC site has been done for (at least) several days, so I am unable to find any more information on this. How many members of the Secretariat were there, and I assume they were elected positions? One Night In Hackney 09:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per DukeOfDuchessStreet. Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 14:07, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per nom. --SunStar Net^talk 14:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Here is another potential reference if the pedigree passes WP standards: http://www.yorku.ca/julabour/volume3/hernden_justlabour.PDF --Kevin Murray 03:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep In a n organization of this sort the secretariat is more or less equivalent to bnoard of directors. I hope votes to delete were not affected by the feeling that his oranization was a "fringe" party.DGG 02:48, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.