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[edit] Oklahoma State Cowboys Wrestling
Thank you for your attempt to improve this article. You mentioned in your edit replacing the info box with one for a completely different sport, "I know it's CBB, but it works for what we need it for". I emphasized the we because it wasn't obvious who it was that you reached consensus with. For the time being, I've reverted it. If you feel the basketball box is more appropriate for a wrestling article or if there is an issue here I don't understand, please come back with your suggestion so the community can reach some sort of consensus. Johnn 7 12:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- A better option would be to just start a new infobox, but there's no need to maintain 2 infoboxes with virtually the same information :-) -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 13:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
That's a good idea. The box with info originally on the page is used in several other wrestling articles. Perhaps I'll look into making a formal infobox out of it today. Johnn 7 14:06, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like i beat you to it, see {{Infobox College Wrestling Team}}. -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 17:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Other articles that need this template: Iowa Hawkeyes wrestling, Minnesota Golden Gophers wrestling, and North Dakota State Bison wrestling. -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 17:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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- What is the difference between that template and {{Infobox college athletics}}? I could very easily make the fields in that template optional and so they won't show up if they are blank.↔NMajdan•talk 17:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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- {{Infobox college athletics}} seems more pointed toward the athletic program as a whole whereas both {{Infobox CBB Team}} and {{Infobox College Wrestling Team}} are more specific to a team with variables such as national championships, final four appearance, current coach, etc. Neither sport is played in a stadium, but an arena. Things like mascot and fight song isn't really appropriate for a team's page (both basketball and wrestling templates have team colors, and I'm not sure there's a good reason for it and maybe should be removed). No doubt {{Infobox college athletics}} could be forced to be appropriate for wrestling, basketball, baseball, etc. but usually forcing numerous cases like this into a single template is not a good idea to keep them maintainable and usable. -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 19:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I always thought that if we could user one template/infobox for multiple applications, that was preferable. How often would these need to be "maintained?" I don't think the parameters will change. Maybe I'll try to work on a universal template in my spare time and see what I can come up with.↔NMajdan•talk 20:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- There is a line where it can be too coarse-grained to be useful and maintainable (a gigantic infobox for colleges, sports teams, newspapers, ...) and where it can be too fine-grained to be practical (seperate infoboxes for *everything*). Combining {{Infobox CBB Team}} and {{Infobox College Wrestling Team}} with {{Infobox college athletics}} is most certainly too course-grained. Men's and women's college basketball are related enough that having a single infobox for them makes sense. Here's a partial list of infoboxes you are proposing combining into one huge infobox: {{NLL Team Infobox}}, {{Infobox CBB Team}}, {{Infobox College Wrestling Team}}, baseball (I can't find a template, but LSU Tigers baseball has something similar), {{NCAAFootballSchool}}, {{MLL Team Infobox}}, {{Infobox Swim team}}, {{AFL team}}, {{NFLE team}}, {{NBADL team}}, {{NBA team}}, {{Infobox National football team}}, {{Infobox Football club}}, {{Cycling team infobox}}, {{Minor league team}}, ... In my opinion, each of those are likely sufficiently different to warrant their own infobox (About the only thing each of those infoboxes have in common is a name). -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 21:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- No, I do not intend on combining all those into one. The only reason I say these three (athletics, CBB, Wrestling) could be one is because their layout is already very similar. I went ahead and took a stab at combining the three. Take a look at User:Nmajdan/Template1. And the coding is still pretty much the same. I made all the fields optional; I added a couple fields to the main area that the CBB and Wrestling infoboxes had that the Athletics one did not (coach, capacity), and added the parts at the bottom inside a simple switch statement. Still very easy to maintain.↔NMajdan•talk 21:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- I opened up a discussion concerning the new template at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#Need opinion on a couple templates. Please feel free to share your opinion.↔NMajdan•talk 14:23, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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