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Contents 1 Zoom 2 Maps 3 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XI - January 2007 4 Jerome Barber 5 Riverina Bioregion 6 Western Australian edit 7 Riverina History Map 8 WP:MILHIST Coordinator Elections 9 Location Maps 10 WikiProject Military History elections 11 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XII - February 2007 12 Cadastral divisions of Australia 13 QLD counties 14 btw 15 NSW Counties heads up 16 Maps 17 DYK 18 Info box discussion - cadastral divisions of Australia 19 WA 20 Invitation 21 Local Government Areas of Australia 22 Electoral maps 23 Infobox Vote 24 Barnstar 25 Couple of adjustments on Cadastral divisions of New South Wales 26 Cumberland 27 Image:US states by date of statehood3.gif 28 Naming Cadastral divisions of New South Wales 29 The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XIII - March 2007

[edit] Zoom

I'm try to crop a map and make it able to zoom in and out in Wikipedia but i'm not make it. Astrokey44, how to make a map able to zoom in and out after cropping (in Wikipedia)? Can you tell me how? thank you. --Aleenf1 03:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, i'm try to crop blank map for Asian part, but after i'm finish my work, and upload to Wikipedia, it unable to zoom (+) or (-) when hover to the map. So, how to make this possible? Thank you. --Aleenf1 03:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, that is where i'm point to. Sorry for not make it clear. So, that is no way to make it? I'm upload the map before and see it can't work in high resolution view. --Aleenf1 04:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

OK, you can. But i wish i can do it myself next time (not abuse your assistance). But in the past i'm upload this image Image:Asian Games Torch Relay route.png after crop but did not work in high resolution and zoom in and out. Why? --Aleenf1 04:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you mean when the images is higher than the size request, it will automatic able to zoom after uploading? Thank you for help me. Nice and appreciated. OK, another, recently also badminton added Tuvalu as new member, i'm not sure it is appear in map because all island appear to be same. --Aleenf1 17:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. :) --Aleenf1 04:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maps

Hi, I couldn't help notice some of the maps you have created such as Image:Oil_imports.PNG Image:Oil_imports.PNG. They are very nice. What software did you use for them? --Selket 22:32, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for doing the Riverina bioregion map Regards --Golden Wattle ^talk 04:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Jerome Barber

Jerome Barber has been renominated for deletion --Kevin Murray 20:42, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Riverina Bioregion

Nice work (again) on the Riverina Bioregion map Astrokey44. Cheers. --VS ^{talk...images} 05:00, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Western Australian edit

That was a nice addition to the page History of Western Australia‎. Post colonial development had just reached areas thousands of kilometres from the capital, much to the surprise of the people already living there. But are you australian? Or just interested. Regards, Fred 04:58, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Again, so appropriate. If you upload any more, the WP:WA would be grateful for any public domain images. Let us know, or add your name to the participants list. All are welcome. Regards Fred 06:21, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I will think of a couple of places to put that image, somehow old maps draw the reader in. You need to fix a tyop in the title though ;-) Please take advantage of this also, Category:Images of Western Australia. Almost any image is useful somewhere. Regards, Fred 14:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Those guys! We do have to double check. Did you upload the very early and detailed map. Even small sections would usable in australian articles. Agree with common usage for 'regions'becoming pages, or maybe a list of terms. I would go for the latter, but it is a big job. Others consider geographical names to be absolute, but your map shows I could be living in Victoria. Unless our cousins got that wrong too :) Fred 15:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Riverina History Map

Love the old map of the Riverina you placed up. It is fascinating to see what did and didn't exist as late as 1910. It complements the article perfectly especially when discussing the impact of the Murrumbidgee Irrigation Area.--Mattinbgn 07:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Location Maps

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, you had either explictly declared a general interest in the project, or had participated at a discussion that appears related to Location Maps for European countries.
New maps had been created by David Liuzzo, and are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish whether the new style maps may be applied as soon as some might become available for countries outside the European continent (or such to depend on future discussions), and also which new version should be applied for which countries.
Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. The subsections on the talk page that had shown David Liuzzo's original maps, now show his most recent design.
Please read the discussion (also in other sections α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ) and in particular the arguments offered by the forementioned poll, while realizing some comments to have been made prior to updating the maps, and all prior to modifying the licences, before carefully reading the presentation of the currently open survey. You are invited to only then finally make up your mind and vote for only one option.
There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 7 Feb 2007 20:01 (UTC)

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[edit] Cadastral divisions of Australia

Just wondering, would you revisit this article and split the lead into sections, and demote the existing sections? Also, it can be very quickly seen from South Australia onwards, that having lists included in this article would dominate the topic with "precision detail" - maybe the lists of counties should be moved to List of South Australian Counties etc - provided there is anything to add to the list other than the county name. If the only thing to include is a county name, then the best bet would be

Main article: :Category:South Australian Counties

Garrie 03:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I know other people jumped into my heading here... but the changes you made following my suggestions have definately made the article look better. Just thought I'd pop back in and say, yes I noticed!

Garrie 04:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I hope you didn't mind, but I nominated this article at DYK. Its nice work. —Moondyne 06:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

• I second Moondyne's comments - nice work on these divisions. Given that I work in Industrial Law I am aware of and thought you might like to know (and edit appropriately where you see fit) that there are still reasonably strong relationships between Industrial Award entitlements (particularly for State Awards across Australia) and some counties. (Although the WorkChoices reforms are beginning to remove this relationship).

• Anyway the boundaries of a county is sometimes used to define the exclusion or inclusion point as to whether workers are included or not in a particular award. There are a great many examples in many parts of Australia but to show you one, the NSW METAL, ENGINEERING AND ASSOCIATED INDUSTRIES (STATE) AWARD includes All persons employed in the industries and callings of ... etc... but excludes those persons if they are in the County of Yancowinna see here [1] for that example. I hope that assists? --VS ^talk 10:28, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

No problems. I'm glad the info helped. Yancowinna in this case is excluded because of distance from Sydney. Many awards are almost the same from one county to another but may for example include an extra weeks leave and some other entitlements. Put simply those sort of extras were negotiated long ago in an effort to gain a reward for members who were in the union's view working in more isolated areas. A broader (but still general answer) is for me to say that it is unlikely that any county reference will have anything to do with closeness to any other state because of demarcation - that is ownership of the award. I'll try to explain.... The example award is a Metals award "owned" by the NSW branch of the AMWU who would rarely if ever share anything in terms of employees (read members) with their 'comrades' in the SA branch of the AMWU. Partly this is about factionalism and partly because of sheer ability to lobby State parliaments. The whole area is pretty complex but suffice to say that throughout all of the states that have counties there are such examples. Your inclusion in the article encompasses this but if you don't mind I will make a minor adjustment to give it a present tense. Nice talking with you as always. --VS ^talk 12:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• Yep that would be my pleasure - a sub-heading that talks about Relevance of counties in Industrial Relations or similar? I will turn my mind to it over the next few days.--VS ^talk 12:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Just on another point regarding counties - (you may know this already - if so I apologise) but just in case and I can help by spreading the knowledge - this website of the Geographical Names Board of NSW [2] provides for a search function (click on either of the two Name Search buttons at the top left) for any town in NSW and then gives good details including the county of location. Perhaps useful as an External Link to put in the article? --VS ^talk 13:14, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks. Thought it might be useful on NSW site - my pleasure again. Glad to be of some assistance.--VS ^talk 13:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] QLD counties

The three county articles that I've added are based on current ones - I used to work in a bank and we had to put the county/parish down on a lot of paperwork for mortgage securities and the like. As far as I know, the counties we have now are the same as in your map - at least for Canning, Stanley, Ward, and Elphinstone. Some of the rural counties have possibly been split more, I do not know.

I'd be interested in researching and adding more information on this topic, but unfortunately info is hard to come by unless you still work in the industry (and I don't). Lankiveil 09:02, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

Perhaps they never "caught on". I sent an email to Queensland's Dept of NRM asking if they have any freely available maps or whatnot to indicate the current situation, unfortunately I probably won't get a reply until Monday at the earliest. Lankiveil 12:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

Well, I just received this today from Queensland Government:

Lankiveil

Thank you for your enquiry regarding county/parish boundaries across Queensland.

A Town and Parish Directory in PDF format on CD can be purchased for the price of $37.85 at our Service Centre at the Woolloongabba Office. Some Service Centres may not have them in stock, but the CD can be ordered. I have attached a link to all our Customer Service Centres which will give you their contact and locations details.

http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/about/contactus/service_centres.html

I hope this information is of assistance for your project.

Regards
Pina


Pina Vitanzi
Executive Assistant
Land Information
Landcentre, Level 9
Ph: xxx xxxxx
Fax: xxx xxxxx

Unless you've forty quid or so to blow (and I don't at this time), this might be the end of the road for this side of things. Lankiveil 12:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] btw

very impressed by your cadastral work - i am simply following for australian project tags - the more i tag the more it relates to a whole lot of old maps that i own - interesting relic from the imperial/colonial era - keep it up! SatuSuro 12:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Jealousy - nla map library - i wish i could work there for some excuse - i was there in 97 - checking the most amazing old maps of java - my favourite was the 2nd world war time one of yogya just where the aircrash ws - the ones that i own are south west wa and western tasmania my areas of interest at the moment SatuSuro 12:29, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks good - there might be a scan of the old districts in one of our Perth or WA history articles - I'm sure its there somewhere.. SatuSuro 13:25, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone once lobbed a map here West Coast, Tasmania - it might be worth checking out - never checked it closely.... SatuSuro 14:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey any time - anyone who has ready access to the NLA map library has my admiration and implicit co-operation.. I might ask a favour one day :) SatuSuro 04:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Nah - even clues how to use the online one is better than a kick in the wiki bottom :) SatuSuro 05:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NSW Counties heads up

G'day. Just thought I'd tell you that I have begun adding county information to towns on Template:Riverina in the following example format
| county = [[Buccleuch County, New South Wales|Buccleuch]]
(which immediately stops disambiguations such as Buccleuch. I am progressing systematically from A to Y (but it will take a while to finish with about 250 locations).

As soon as I come across a redlink county I create the stub (read mini stub) - see for example Denison - I couldn't find colour pointed maps available as yet so I am leaving that part for when you get a chance(?).

I will let you know which county stubs I create in groups as I move along. Today (and there will be more later) I have created stubs for Counties:- Buccleuch, Hume, Bourke, Wakool, Caira, Cooper, Cadell and Denison. I trust that is all helpful but if not please let me know and I will stop immediately? Regards --VS ^talk 07:44, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

• Further to the above (and that will be it for this evening) - the following counties are also commenced as stubs... Harden, Clarendon, Urana, Mitchell, Waljeers, Goulburn, Sturt and Cowley. Cheers. --VS ^talk 09:13, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks - I did notice that on the Geographical Names Board of NSW site. So what I am doing at the moment is picking the actual place name of eg: Wagga Wagga rather than North or South Wagga Wagga etc and using that county. However when I eventually get around to suburbs I will choose the actual place and county nominated. --VS ^talk 01:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC) PS My intention is to go through the 250 odd names on template:Riverina first and send you updates on any new county stubs I start.

Two more county stubs for today - Boyd and Bland. Cheers! --VS ^talk 07:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

G'day - if you get time can you commence County stub for Taila (NSW) please (I have posted county on at least one article Euston). --VS ^talk 06:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC) And another newie Waradgery (with posting of that county to Hay this afternoon). Cheers! --VS ^talk 07:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC) Going strong this arvo - please add county Nicholson to the list (with several postings including Hillston). --VS ^talk 08:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Excellent thank you. I am ploughing through all Riverina as time allows. I will also then go to the various county pages and add a bit of valuable information that I have come across. --VS ^talk 02:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maps

Love em :) Quick one - would you be able to do one for Shire of Mukinbudin? It's just we're working on that article within the next day or two so it would be good to have it there :) Thanks heaps for all your hard work. Orderinchaos78 14:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :) And yep: imagesize= attribute in the infobox eg imagesize = 180 Orderinchaos78 14:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

For implementation check out Mukinbudin or Victoria Plains, I put the above attribute in those so you can see how it works, adjust as appropriate etc Orderinchaos78 14:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 12 March 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article cadastral divisions of Australia, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--ALoan (Talk) 14:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Its amazing the amount of interest that this one article has spawned. —Moondyne 02:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info box discussion - cadastral divisions of Australia

Just got that message thanks Astrokey. I have responded also at the discussion page with this comment... (From my perspective - choose - either in the info box or in the prose - whatever the majority decide but don't just drop this great work. Counties and parishes are still used in property and industrial legal documents and they represent both a current and a historical fact which is most definitely encyclopedic.) I will await the end result before I go down the path of adding county and or parish information. --VS ^talk 06:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• I have proposed a compromise regarding this discussion. Hopefully it will see a concensus formed?--VS ^talk 10:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WA

Not a lot sadly - I'm trying to find that out :/ Some sources call them "districts". Read my last main contribution at WT:WA where I covered some of what I have. They turn up in Government Gazettes, I've mostly been concentrating on Swan, which covers all of northern and eastern suburban Perth, and southern as far south as Booragoon and Applecross. The lettered locations (eg Swan Location K - see Hamersley) are very long, approx 1.4km wide strip lots counted back westwards or northwest from the Swan River. 1370 is the biggest location within Swan and covers the entire suburbs from Yanchep right down to Hepburn Avenue, with 1315 being south of it and 1352 being north of it (towards Gingin). Other Perth area ones are Canning and Cockburn Sound, with Avon and Ninghan to the east, Williams to the southeast and Murray and Wellington (which surrounds Bunbury) to the south. Further south is Sussex (SW), Nelson (S) etc. Victoria surrounds Geraldton. Here is a SRO item which hints at others (eg East, Hampton, Kent, Plantagenet etc)

When I have time I'll see if I can prepare a more complete list. They're used to this day by planning departments and local councils. I don't even know what these divisions are called so it's difficult to look them up in a book. Orderinchaos78 11:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

That appears to be it! So it would seem they're called "land districts". Many of the district names on those maps are very familiar to me from gazettes - thanks heaps :) Now what should we do with this information? (BTW re dates - it appears the Swan and Wellington ones in particular go back to earliest days - I have evidence of Swan Location K being granted just 3 months after Swan River Colony's foundation in Sep 1829, and the literature suggests Location L, known as Sandalford Estate then and part of which still is to this day, being already established by the time it was chosen. Swan Location 32, in around Bicton, was 1832ish and was allocated to a family member of John Butler, who owned the modern suburb of Peppermint Grove as a traveller's inn and was one of the first explorers to pass Wanneroo. Orderinchaos78 13:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems to be Land division -> Land district -> Location -> Lot (eg a Govt Gazette entry might refer to "Swan Location 8968, formerly part of Swan Location 1315 and comprising that part of it marked as lots 104, 105 and 106 on LTO plan 47271" (I made the numbers up) Your article looks fantastic... I'll look more into it when I'm actually here again (more elab via email) Orderinchaos78 03:30, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I can get maps at the Battye for Perth - they're not terribly clear on those either (I've looked at one) but when I finish my gazettals project I'll probably be able to understand the map better. I think most of those districts have survived but many are of course abandoned nowadays - it seems to be that they took original land titles very seriously. Orderinchaos78 03:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Local Government Areas of Australia

The maps you developed for Australian LGAs are great. Thanks--Mattinbgn/ ^talk 08:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Electoral maps

Don't forget to update them for post '07 - the redistributions in NSW and QLD take effect at this election. PMA 13:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Maps are here - http://www.aec.gov.au/_content/Why/redistributions/2005/nsw/announcement.htm

PMA 10:56, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

In answer to your question here - I count 407. This doesn't count the 6 upper house regions in WA or the 15 single-member upper house districts in Tasmania. Orderinchaos78 11:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox Vote

Hi there. Where do you think we are up to with this - I count 4 supports, 2 neutrals, 1 oppose after 12 days of voting. I think that means a support on the compromise proposal? I would like to start work on this area again this weekend. What do you think? --VS ^talk 06:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For fantastic effort on the cadastral and mapping sections on articles connected with WikiProject Australia. Well done! Orderinchaos78 11:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

A much deserved barnstar.--Mattinbgn/ ^talk 12:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks guys! I owe it to the National Library, for their huge collection of old Australian maps --Astrokey44 12:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Couple of adjustments on Cadastral divisions of New South Wales

Hey there Astrokey44 (my kudos to you also for the totality of this work - along with the lads above). Can I just tell you that I have added 7 previously missing from the list in New South Wales - they were Farnell, Finch, Gowen, Irrara, Monteagle, Woore and Taila. I have also (I hope you don't mind because it will mean a couple of minor adjustments to your map image) adjusted the spelling of Gulgoa to Culgoa and Bockland to Buckland. The 1888 map is hard to read but when I looked at other sources these are now the correct spelling. Hope that all helps. --VS ^talk 12:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

• • (copied from my talk page) Wow - I've never seen a genealogy page before - I agree some disambig pages will need to come also. I don't know if you have noticed that I have created all of the pages (that weren't there previously) from A to B including where the name came from. I have all of the rest created as a word document ready to go and will continue tomorrow putting them up. It is very interesting seeing where the names for each county came from.... I guess if you have time you might like to add county specific images to the pages without? I am enjoying this work - thanks for letting me help. --VS ^talk 13:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I see you are on-line - I have a question that has been 'bothering' me a little for some time. In the description of Cadastral divisions of New South Wales - it states Instructions were given to Governor Brisbane in 1825 to survey New South Wales and divide it into counties of approximately forty square miles, and parishes between fifteen and twenty five square miles. To me that has always seemed far too small particularly when you do the maths between counties and parishes. Towards that point Buckland County, New South Wales (given the new data that I have just put up) states that it is about 1484 square miles. I wonder if there is an accidental error in the description on the NSW Cadastral page?--VS ^talk 02:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

• Fair enough - I might just go in and adjust the information (as not having it would be more accurate at this time). Can't ask Golden Wattle - she is totally retired from the project (unfortunately).--VS ^talk 03:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cumberland

Thats fine, no harm in trying. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mindys12345 (talk • contribs) 12:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

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[edit] Naming Cadastral divisions of New South Wales

All county stubs commenced and all information relating to origin of county names posted (and linked to current Wiki articles where possible). With your brilliant maps and the further information that you have been putting up this project is looking great.--VS ^talk 12:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• Parishes *F*ck! Well it can be done but do you think it is worth it (and the month or two of editing)? Where would we put it up? Perhaps just a table on each county page? --VS ^talk 13:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• Guess what (apart from you being a bastard and putting the idea in my head!!). I am going to do it - absolutely - it's a stunning project (there will be detractors that think that putting this stuff up is no longer important but the history alone is fantastic). I won't put it up into info boxes - else we will receive the ire of some of the community but I will add it to every NSW county as a table. Consider it done! (I may have to loan some money from you for the psychiatrist).--VS ^talk 13:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Nah - it'll be fun!! I already have it partly worked out (well in my scone at least). Watch these spaces--VS ^talk 13:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

• Glad you like it - I sort of worked it out in my head last night. It's a lot of work in terms of sorting and then checking every link and coordinate etc but I have the template in place on my desktop and if I knuckle down then I should be able to prepare up to about 4 or 5 counties per day (perhaps a few more on weekends) so I should finish in about 20-28 days. I have opted not to link Parishes - they just turn into a very, very ugly sea of redlinks or link to other obscure pages. I thought the good, better, best touch was that each one points directly to its governing LGA and to a centralised coordinate which can be opened (as you no doubt know) via Google Maps etc. --VS ^talk 02:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know - I have written a small job specific macro that is speeding up the sorting through the list of Parishes and adding link brackets, coordinate specifications etc - which should decrease the time to complete this job a fair bit. I now have a list of all or at least nearly all the Parishes and will just continue through the counties in alpha order.--VS ^talk 09:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• I like it for many reasons but mainly because a navigational tool makes the whole concept of Counties much more valid and is a tangible way of getting a reader to conceptualise this part of Australian history. I think you should go for it. I also think that with the Parishes and your Navigation addition the NSW GeoStub could pretty well come of the page (at that stage the page is way bigger than a stub). --VS ^talk 11:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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