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Contents 1 Hello 2 WP:3RR 3 hello there 4 Concerning your persistant usage of the term fyromians 5 Please reply 6 Allo 8ema 7 No problem 8 taking this off the already overlong vote 9 Ela 10 New Sig 11 Why do you take "such acts" with such responsability 12 Greek and Cypriot media coverage 13 ROM 14 In reply to your comment 15 Comment 16 Liako 17 Category Deletion 18 Request 19 Sub-page 20 Thanks Avg! 21 Avg 22 stan lazaridis 23 POLL 24 and another Poll... 25 Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology) 26 Ela 27 2 Polls that may be of interest... 28 Wikibreak? 29 Thanks 30 Just fishin... 31 WikiProject History of Greece Newsletter - Issue I - September 2006 32 WikiProject History of Greece Newsletter - Issue II - October 2006 33 Muchas gracias 34 Thank you for your support! 35 WikiProject History of Greece Newsletter - Issue III - November 2006 36 Solomou, Isaak 37 --tony esopi patratalk 19:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC) 38 Isaak Solomou

[edit] Hello

Γειά, βλέπω ότι και εσύ είσαι Έλληνας στην Αγγλία - ελάτε να γίνουμε πολλοί :-) --Latinus 19:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Den iparhi kanonismos pu lei tetyo pragma. Aplos epidi to arthro ya to kratos tus ine eki, ya na mi fenete i Wikipedia shitsofrenis, ehi epikratisi na to leme Dimokratia Makedonias. --Latinus 20:08, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Γειά σου Avg,

It's a waste of time trying to communicate to these people.

This user 87.202.109.36 is actually posting from Athens [1]

As far as admission to EU is concerned, no country can join EU under a name that could cause any sovereignty problems to another country-state. This was the case of Great Britain. In 1973 joined the EU under the name of UK so as not to infringe with Brittany, the French teritory. Do you know any details about this? Odysses (☜) 17:43, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Probably a FYROMian activist living in Athens :-)

In 1973 was the third attempt. Previous two attempts were rejected. (Britain's membership was vetoed by French president Charles De Gaulle in January 1963). This article doesn't mention anything about the name, which I've heard of from an older BBC program.Odysses (☜) 19:31, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Umm, no. That's completely wrong. The constitutional name of the UK is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", which is the name by which the country is recognised internationally. Great Britain is just the biggest of the country's various islands. There was never any issue with France about the name "Brittany", which isn't even an administrative entity. -- ChrisO 20:10, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, you might want to check this as well.--Avg 01:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:3RR

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Jkelly 23:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

As' to - den ehi simasia. Min to xanaepanaferis, den ehi noima... tha su valun frayi an to xanaepanaferis. --Latinus 23:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

There is no compromise made gia ta Skopia, sunexise na to epanafereis. Prosexe mono min paraviaseis ton kanona. --Hectorian 01:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

otan les selida tis Elladas, ennoeis tin poli tou vorra?kai,btw, eisai gavros?:P --Hectorian 02:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Oxi,na min upotheseis!ki egw panathinaikos eimai:)den eimai thessa/kios...Sunexise toso kala opws ta pas twra kai an xreiasteis voitheia pouthena pes mou. thanks kai sto demographics of greece. prospathisan na xanavaloun tin pigi, alla tin evgala pali giati einai entelws asxeti! --Hectorian 02:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

concerning what article? --Dipazi 01:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

can you be more specific please --Dipazi 01:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

ΠΑΟ είσαι ρε φίλε η μήπως υπάρχει κάποιο spelling mistake και εννοούσες ΠΑΟΚ ; -? - Politis 14:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Κάποτε ήμουνα ΠΑΟΚάρα με άρματα και βυζαντινή στολή, τώρα δεν παρακολουθώ καθόλου εκτός εάν κάποια ελληνική ομάδα πάει Ευρώπη. Όσον αφορά τους μακεντονσκιοπιανούς , γιατί αποφεύγουν την γλώσσα του Αλέξανδρου; Αλλά που θα πάει, κάποτε θα τους την δώσει και θα ξέρουν τα ελληνικά καλύτερα από εμάς. Εγώ τους πάω και έχουν γούστο, αν και μερικοί είναι τόσο μπερδεμένοι όσον αφορά την ταυτότητά τους που το ρίχνουν σε βιαιότητες λες και βρουν κάποια άκρη. Politis 15:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah - OK ;-) Edwy ^(talk) 13:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Efyga pote apo to club kai den to xerw?:) --Hectorian 22:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Xereis twra...sti xwra tou eisai mallon...aftoi einai ligotero ethnikistes: den miloun gia ta provlimata me tous geitones tous, apla pairnoun ta opla kai polemoun 3,000 (kai vale) km makria :p --Hectorian 23:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hello there

I've just noticed that your are fr:4 - any chance you could help with Scanderbeg? I have found this french bio however I cannot understand french at all. Thanks! talk to +MATIA 11:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you could take a look at the talk pages and/or try to get rid of "citation needed" tags, or whatever else you might find appropriate to improve that article. talk to +MATIA 12:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

He he, den mporoun na skou3oun gia ton idio logo mallon!  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 13:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concerning your persistant usage of the term fyromians

{{npa}}

This ethnic group doesn't exist. You use the term to insult ethnic Macedonian users. It was pointed out many times that this term is insulting, yet you keep doing it. I think you left me with no option than to officially warn you not to do it. --Realek 16:04, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

There is a Greek proverb that goes: "Φωνάζει ο κλέφτης για να φοβηθεί ο νοικοκύρης" ("The thief screams to scare the landlord"). It fits perfectly here.--Avg 16:19, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Now I'm accused of being a thief??? Please clarify. --Realek 16:38, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Not you as a person. It is not a personal attack if you're trying to spin it this way. After all it is a proverb, it's meant to be taken metaphorically. It is very relevant though with your country's position: A thief is whoever appropriates something that belongs to someone else and this is what you've done with our history. I could remove completely the term thief if you find it offensive, and just say that the meaning of the proverb is: "Someone who's wrong accuses the one who's right about being wrong" --Avg 17:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

You cannot just return the blow when you are warned of a personal attack. I stated the reason why you were warned. You stated that you warned me for warning you. It doesn't work that way. So let me make another effort to calm things down and clear them up. There is no such thing as fyromians. The ethnic group you are talking about is called Macedonians (almost without exceptions) and never Fyromians. It was already pointed out to you that this term is extremely insulting to Macedonians. Still you persist in using this incorrect and rude term. I also noted that you use a small letter when you write it (fyromians), wich further proves you are doing it with an intent to insult. So again, I'm asking you to stop using this term. Would you be willing to do that. Furthermore I would appeal to you to remove the NPA template you placed on my discussion page without having any reason to do it. It was done only seconds after I warned you of a personal attack and I accept that you could have done it without thinking it through properly. --Realek 16:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Realek, you are confirming by your conduct that a personal attack is purely subjective. A personal attack is made to another user, so for what Avg said will have to have been directed to YOU or another Wikipedian personally. I think Avg was talking about history. The usage of the term may have been uncivil contrary to WP:CIV, but is not a personal attack as described in WP:NPA, therefore your warning is misplaced as well. --LionKing 16:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Realek, the 'thief' quip is a famous Greek proverb. I know it as, 'the thief shouts to make the home owner run away'. I am sure Avg had no intention of offending you. It is our dialogue and our questions to each other that bring us closer and helps us dispel misunderstandings. After all, we share many proverbs and sayings because we have so much in common. - Politis 16:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Of course I didn't want to offend Realek and I explained what the proverb means, imagine though how surprised I was to find a npa template in my talk page, when I haven't directly offended anyone!--Avg 17:11, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

The term "fyromians" is offensive to me and other Macedonians. If you don't belive me ask them. Avg tries to hide behind his wrong conclusion that this is an "official name" for my ethnic group. That can't be further from the truth. Also I was dismisseed by LionKing, because he claims calling an ethnic group a certain name is not personal but is against a whole ethnic group (he did admit that it was uncivi however). Actually it is personal - the usage of the term represents a personal attack to many users at once. Finally the "tief and landlord" proverb might not be directed to me personally, but is in the same way as above directed towards my whole ethnic group. It implies that Greeks are the landlords and that Macedonians are the thieves. In the atmosphere and context it was said I can't conclude anything else that its purpose was malicious. I'm aware that posting another NPA template in response to the new insults here and on other pages will just get me a retaliatory template on my page. I'm trying to resolve this and remain cool. Avg, I don't accept your "bargain" that I should remove the template from your page and then you will remove it from the mine. However I would gladly remove it if you stop using the term "fyromians" and introducing new insulting ones like "nonamians" and "vardarians". What do you say? --Realek 17:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Avg, you made edits since I posted so I know you are still here. I'm still awaiting an answer and hope for a civilized solution. Please don't ignore my goodwill. --Realek 17:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Νονέμιανς, που τα βρίσκει αυτά ο κόσμος; με συγχωρείς, αλλά δεν μπορώ να σταματήσω να γελάω. Politis 18:17, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

{{npa3}}

The term Fyromians doesn't exist and it is considered highly insulting for my nation. Please stop doing that or you will be reported. Bitola 16:18, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

You only provide me a good laugh. At least be consistent.. use npa2...--Avg 16:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Avg, I think, as a courtesy, you shouldn't use that term to refer to people. As you have been asked to do it, just stop. Use the serious scientific term "Macedonian Slavs" if you really don't want to call them "Macedonians". I see Bitola has been abusing NPA tags just like Realek, I had a word about this with ChrisO the other day. Delete them if you want, policy does not require you to keep misplaced tags; calling people "Fyromians" is not a personal attack, despite the fact that there is a concerted attempt to present it as such - Wikipedia is not censored (sadly) and there are many ugly examples of this. Edwy ^(talk) 16:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Also, it cracks me up when people use terms like "my nation", "my country", "my fatherland" :-))) Edwy ^(talk) 16:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps I'll leave the tags for a while, because I WANT an administrator to come and see what these guys are doing. --Avg 16:30, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Avg, kita to ilektroniko su tahidromio se liga lepta - OK? Edwy ^(talk) 16:36, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Yati pas ke grafis anoisies. Den epitrepete na tus les etsi, ya afto min tus les etsi, den iparhi dikeoloyia. An to ksanakanis, tha su valun frayi. I epiloyi dikia su ine. Edwy ^(talk) 17:04, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I would like to say something at this point. These FYROMians say they are offended. Every single time they say that they are Macedonians (LOL) it offends Greek's intelligence and history. The difference is the Un has allowed us to call your country FYROM so logically someone from there is a FYROMian. I am sorry if this hurts Fyromians but the UN is the UN. If you find it so offesive, attack the UN, not people who obey their laws and rulings. America ignores the UN and so does FYROM, so what, get over it. But don't attack Greeks for obeying a UN ruling. Reaper7 14:02, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please reply

I'm asking both Bitola and Realek and whoever else is offended by the term "Fyromians", which word do you want me to use that does not include the term "Macedonians"? I do not want to offend you, really and I'm perfectly honest at that. --Avg 17:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

The ethnic group in question calls itself Macedonians. However, their first president Kiro Gligorov is known to call them "Macedonian Slavs" and Encarta Encyclopedia uses it. However, I think that this would not find favour with them either, I think you are asking a silly question, just be polite and don't mention them at all. I sure can survive when calling them "Macedonians" when needed so maybe you need to change your approach. Edwy ^(talk) 17:18, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I can abandon Fyromians right away. I was trying to be objective and not offensive: My new options would be either "Skopjans" or "Vardarians". But I'm open to other suggestions as well.--Avg 17:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Tha stamatisis! Stamata tis anoisies, i tha tus les opos thelun (i opos su ipa prin) i tha fas frayi! Ethnikistika sholia den epitreponde ke ego tora su leo oti ekana oti borusa. Tora oti pis, diki su efthini ine - ego pos boro ke tus leo opos thelun? Kane oti nomizis kalitero, ke an tus dosis ti hara na fas frayi, esi tha ftes. Kali diaskadasi! Edwy ^(talk) 17:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Yati den mu apandises? Edwy ^(talk) 17:18, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Allo 8ema

Biazesai ligoulaki (genika). O filos mas pou ekane th diagrafh sth syzhthsh, dex8hke mhnyma apo kapoion allo ths idias xwras, pou elege oti ayto pou ekane htan atimo giati ellhnes e8nikistes tou exoun dhmiourghsei megalo baros sto ar8ro pou anaferei. Aytos apanthse ston allo oti den a3izei na tsakwnesai me tous ellhnes e8nikistes. Profanws xrhsimopoihse thn orologia tou allou. En pasei periptwsei, den ennoouse emas, alla kapoious sto allo ar8ro (pou den to exw dei kan). Esy phges kai tou ebales mphxth. H gnwmh mou einai zhta tou sygnwmh.  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 17:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Na sai kala. Milaw italika kai katalabainw th glwssa tous me ligo boh8eia apo online metafrastika. Prepei na tsekareis tis pro8eseis kapoiou prin tou grapseis mphxth. Akoma ki an sth leei, h filikh proseggish einai pio pi8anh na lysei to 8ema. Ki egw hmoun trellamenos sthn arxh kai eskouza, alla katalaba oti laou-laou ginetai kalytera h douleia. Des poso diakritika tou thn eipa sto twk, pou den ante3e kai zhthse syggnwmh. Kane to idio, giati 8a to exei dei, kai giati 8a ais8anetai "tou to xrwstas" apo to mk.  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 17:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Pes tou oti ekanes ena adiko sxolio giayton apo kekthmenh taxythta dioti diabases kai katalabes monon 2 le3eis. Sth synexeia diafwtisthkes kai to esbhses kai elpizeis na mhn sou krata kakia.  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 17:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No problem

Thanks for letting me know, I wasn't actually watching his talk page :) No hard feelings, I'm sorry I got into the argument in the first place. - FrancisTyers 17:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Avge, boris na skasis ke na min ta les. Prospatho na embodiso frayi ke sinahizis. Tha ti fas ke asi tha ftes. Telieone! Edwy ^(talk) 21:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Mi tus ksanaanaferis! Mi milas ya simvivasmus ke anoisies. Mi tu milas, ute na kanis report. Edwy ^(talk) 21:21, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Su ipa na min kanis, yati to ekanes. Svisto! Ego prospatho na se vgalo apo belades ke esi de voithas katholu. Edwy ^(talk) 21:40, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Avg, please understand that any use of terms Fyromian, Skopian, BulgaroSkopian… including your last proposal FYROM national is highly insulting to me. Try to consider what you would think and do if someone was using an insulting term for a Greek person (people that I appreciate after all), for example Fopogian of FOPOG national (FOPOG=Former Ottoman Province of Greece). I hope you will refrain in the future from using insulting terms, that way avoiding boring reports on the admin notice boards and showing a good faith.Bitola 07:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and UAE national is an offensive term to all those listed at List of UAE Nationals ;-) Bitola, what you are doing is borderline trolling: stop harrassing Avg on his talk page and go and do something more productive. Avg agreed that the Fyromians which can reasonably be expected to be insulting will no longer be used, but you are pushing this issue too much. Edwy ^(talk) 11:09, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] taking this off the already overlong vote

You said Don't you feel just a little bit sorry for Greek Macedonians having been robbed of their identity by their neighbours?--Avg 17:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)'

I say - Nope. Sameways I don't feel sorry for myself, a Hampshire lad, having my identety stolen by those fiendish New Hampshireites. Or even the gall of the New Englanders. I have met many Yorkshiremen who care not a jot that New York drags down the name of York, and the Welsh seldom raise an eyebrow when visting Sydney in Australia and its name thieving state. Don't think of it as identity theft, think of it as imitation being the sincerest form of flattery! Sabine's Sunbird talk 18:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

• Hmmmm. Having now actually read several of the Wikipedia articles I know a little bit more about it... I'm afraid I still slightly side with the Macedonians/Skopjeans. You see, I live in Britain, the name of which has come down to us from, well, not as long ago as Macedonia, but it did come from the Romans, and quite frankly many of us don't count the pre-Roman Britons as our ancestors (coming as we did from the Romans, Vikings, Saxons, Normans etc) and none us speak the same language - does that mean the the island is no longer Britain or that we are cannot call ourselves British? I don't think the Macedonians are right to claim what you say they claim, but invented national histories like that are hardly unique. Ultimately a strong sense of who you are should not be based on what people next door think you are, let alone what they think they are. Given what Greece has contributed to the world you'd think the country would be pretty secure in its self image. Just my thoughts. Sabine's Sunbird talk 20:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, I could argue all day (because I love arguing) but when it come down to it, after reading lots of talk pages of angry exchanges on the issue, I'v categorised this in my head with the same warning label as the Palestine/Isreal articles - I plan to leave it well alone. Neither side seems to be either right or wrong, and as long as the articles present the case in a NPOV manner I'm afraid I don't care anymore. Sabine's Sunbird talk 08:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ela

Also note to Avg -

Man that diagram was pure, i reposted at the bottom to rub it in and cause distress to those who are living in a dream. Man i also i londoner from Nottin Hill, (Olympiakos before u ask)in the words of Darkwan in Ninja Scroll - Lets be friends! lol, we need all the comrads we can get - c u around! Reaper7 23:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I used it in:

• Talk:Republic of Macedonia/FYROM name support position

 NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 23:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Na sai kala Avg, Xronia polla ki eytyxismena! H forma einai forma alla dystyxws to apotelesma metraei (kai den mas dikaiwnei akoma)...  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 12:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Sig

I am sure that:

instead of this:

   Avg 23:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)   

you mean this:

   Avg    23:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Right?

You owe me a beer for the copy vio, one more for shortening your sig by 2 lines (by removing redundant repetitions of span), one more for correcting your html errors (color 6 digits and span closings=openings), and one more for the better looks of it (with the date outside and by fixing gradients)! Jesus! You even owe me one more for getting me drunk! Now copy everything except the date in the "nickname" box in prefs and check raw sigs "on".  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 11:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Avg, boris na prosehis ti selida Portal:Macedonia/Intro (ke na kanis revert), yati enas ap' aftus svini ena episimo onoma. Telex 21:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Prosexw idi tin selida.allwste apo tin arxi mou fanike polu upoptos o titlos.twra einai mia xara ekei pou to phges:). xreiazetai kapoies mikroallagoules akoma, nomizw. --Hectorian 01:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why do you take "such acts" with such responsability

The answer to your question is: The albanian language is official only in the municipalities where they make over 20%, so official languages are also:romani, turkish, serbian, aromanian, but only in the municipalities.The Macedonain is the only official language on the entire state teritory and in foreign relations, and the oficial name of the land is only on Macedonian. So plase remove the albanian from the article If so as you are thinking than the name of albania should be written in macedonian to, as the macedonian is one of the languages officialy recognised in the district of Korche in Albania. Vlatko 10:05, 06 May 2006 (UTC)

We are discusing about the macedonian constitution where it is said that the only official state language is the macedonian. There are several municipality official languages....

So, none of them is official on the entire state land, only the macedonian. Not with albanian or serbian,or ... ONLY MACEDONIAN. The enciclopedia britanica has made a big mestake here as it gives wrong data to its costumers. The macedonian constitutional name is only in MACEDONIAN. For the 35% I have this to tell to you, How much i know, the same you do to. You have official data. So please stop be the smartest (some 25% of the population speak albanian). And what if I add here that 15% of the Greek population speaks Macedonian, whats your opinion about this, you made your self ammbasador of human rights in every place other than the one you live in. THE FREE WILL IN GREECE IS FORBIDDEN BY LAW. SO, tell me. How can you be so blind and make such obvious mestakes and write the name in other languages than its official ones? Vlatko 11:48,06 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh,do not feel sory,if it was an official language i would have been proud for. As my land recognises all the albanians and other living in it ,and so by supporting their nature. Not as yours that "claims" beeing some mother of culture, and instead of is controversal to it self.

Please tell me, How many Macedonians do live in Greece (the state) not the land (I want to mak a point that Greece is south of mount olympus). And the language is not official as it is not in the constitution. Vlatko 02:06, 07 May 2006 (UTC)

Vlatko, how many people were you tought speak southern slavic in Greece again? How many FYROMians are you tought live in Greece aswell, this is very interesting. Reaper7 13:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greek and Cypriot media coverage

Hello Avg,

I am writing a thesis on Croatia's candidacy to join the EU as seen by the various European media. As I see that you are a native Greek speaker interested in the EU I was wondering if you would consider helping me. Needless to say, I don't speak Greek. However, I think it would be a shame if my thesis were to reflect only the views and topics covered in the countries such as Austria, Britain, France, Germany, the Netherlands etc (in short, the countries whose languages I understand). Therefore, I would like to include a section on Greek and Cypriot media in my thesis. I am not only interested in Croatia's candidacy, but also in the wider subjects people associate with the EU. I left a more detailed list on my discussion page.

I will be more than grateful if you could leave me just a link to a Greek or Cypriot newspaper article that deals with any of the above subjects with a short summary such as for example: "XY is opposed to Turkey's membership because of the unresolved Cyprus issue" or "the membership of Croatia is bad because the constitutional treaty has been rejected in France and the Netherlands" or "party X is critical to Greece's membership in the eurozone because of..."

I will be sending this message to several other native Greek speakers. Also if you know a Wikipedian who could help me, please let me know. Of course, if you're not interested, please accept my apologies and feel free to erase the message. Thank you for your time. PGradStudent 10:50, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ROM

Hi again. Please see my message at Talk:Florina, thanks. —Khoikhoi 01:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] In reply to your comment

"If you are Greek, I'm Martian You know that claiming a false identity will cost you my FYROMian friend... -- Avg 00:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)"

I would suggest that you keep comments of this sort out of wikipedia. if you have a reply regarding my comments, i would be glad if you could send it to me. Best, --Greece666 02:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Nobody accuses your opinion, what I accuse is the way you want to pass it, by claiming a false identity. As simple as that. --   Avg    02:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

Katalauenw auta pou me lete, kai sas euxaristo gia tis sumboules. Aplos neuriazw otan vlepw ti grafoun oli autoi oi ilithioi giati tin istoria mas. DRMAKA 04:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liako

Avg γειασου. Γραφω Ελληνικα γιατι με τα Εγγλεζικα που ξερω συννενοηση δεν γινεται. ΧΑζεψα λιγο τις σελιδες που μου εστειλες. Γενικα σελιδες οπως η δικη μου δεν διαγραφονται απο ο,τι ειδα. ( δεν ξερω βεβαια ΑΝ ΥΠΑΡΧΟΥΝ για να διαγραφουν. ποιος ξερει ισως να διαγραφηκαν ολες). Το θεμα ειναι ισως ΝΑΙ η σελιδα με τη μορφη που εχει να ειναι "περιεργη". ΟΜΩΣ σε καμια περιπτωση το περιεχομενο της δεν ειναι ακαταλληλο. Αυτο συμβαινει γιατι απανταει επιτυχως σε ερωτησεις: π.χ. Αν σημερα ημερα τριτη καποιος ανοιξει το ΟΡΙΟΝ και δει για πρωτη φορα το λιακο ευλογα θα αναρρωτηθει <<που κολαει ο πουτιν;>>. Δεν λεω οτι πρωτη του δουλεια θα ειναι να τρεξει να διαβασει τη σελιδα αλλα ας βρισκεται τουλαχιστον η απαντηση εκει. Αν δεχτουμε πως ο λιακο ( που ολοι θα τον εχουν ξεχασει σε 50 χρονια κια κανενας δεν θα μιλαει για αυτον) αξιζει να ειναι σε εγκυκλοπαιδεια τοτε πρεπει να ειναι και οι επιρροες του. Οσον αφορα τον Χριστοδουλο συμπληρωσα:

Greek Archbishop. He often preaches about "Dark powers that wish to overthrow Christanity and Hellenism from the innocent Greek minds". Although he has never mentioned Zionists or any other conspiracy team, Dimosthenis Liakopoulos has often used his lectures in support to his own claims. Christodoulos and Liakopoulos have never met or contacted each other. Christodoulos however has once shown his affection towards supporters of the Greek political party L.A.OS. by saying that they are generally good Christians. He did not mention specific names but Liakopoulos, being one of them took advantage of this claiming that he is backed and supported by the Greek Orthodox Church, although he has supported theories that come in contrast to Orthodoxy. Such theories are El and Nephilim and Patroon Genos both of them reffering to the extraterrestrial origin of human species. Considering theese it is rather unlikely that Christodoulos knows who Liakopoulos is and what he does. Liakopoulos however took great advantage of his fictional support by the church to increase his popularity.

που δικαιολογει την υπαρξη του. και φτανω σο θεμα: ΤΙ ΜΠΟΡΕΙ ΝΑ ΓΙΝΕΙ:

• Ο Σακκετος μπορει να εχει δικη του Σελιδα. Ετσι και αλλιως ειναι συγγραφεας και εχει δικη του ζωη. Και απλα να αναφερει η σελιδα οτι ο λιακο ειναι ο εκδοτης του.
• Ο Παλμος ας φυγει κιολας δεν με πειραζει. Καλεσμενος την Ανιτας ηταν. Στο κατω κατω υπαρχουν και πιο σπουδαιοι εψιλονιστες. Μπορει ακομα να μεταφερθει στη σελιδα της ομαδας εψιλον.

( Μια παραγραφος που να γραφει σμαντικοι εψιλονιστες: φουρακης, παλμος κεραμιδας κλπ.)

• Βατοπεδινος Παισιος : Ας μπει στη σελιδα του λιακο. Εχει σημασια : Το να αντλει ο λιακο πληροφοριες απο καποιον που μιλαει με τον ΘΕΟ παιζει ρολο στη δημοτικοτητα του.
• Τεξ: απλα να αναφερθει στην κυρια σελιδα οτι πουλαει τα βιβλια του και αντλει ιδεες.
• Δημιουργια νεας σελιδας Liakopoulos and the Russians που να εξηγει πως του 'ρθε του λιακο να λεει οσα λεει για πουτιν ξανθο γενος και σια ( που *ΕΙΝΑΙ* ενα θεμα που απασχολει οσους βλεπουν λιακο). και εκει να μπει Αι Γιαννης πουτιν συννεφακης κλπ κλπ ξεκινωντας μια αναδρομη απο τουρκοκρατια και τις ΗΔΗ υπαρχουσες τοτε προφητειες και φτανοντας μεχρι τον 1ο παγκσμιο οπου ΟΝΤΩΣ Ρωσσια και Ελλας ηταν στο ιδιο στρατοπεδο ενατνια στην Τουρκια και φτανοντας μεχρι το <<πρεπει να συχρονισουμε τα ρολογια μας>> που ειπε ο πουτιν στον καραμαν. Η απαντηση στην ερωτηση << γιατι ο λιακο ολο μιλαει για τους ρωσους >> *ΠΡΕΠΕΙ* να υπαρχει. Αν το ποιος ειναι ο λιακο θεωρειται εγκυκλοπαιδικη γνωση τοτε το ΤΙ κανει και ΓΙΑΤΙ το κανει θεωρειται επισης.

Ελπιζω με αυτα να συμφωνεις. εχε με ενημερο. ( και ελληνικα να καταλαβαινομαστε ).

[edit] Category Deletion

Please visit [2] and weigh in!  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 17:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hey Avg,

Could you join the discussion here? It's concerning whether or not the UN has recognized the Pontian Greek Genocide. Thanks. —Khoikhoi 03:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sub-page

I created a new sub-page: User:NikoSilver/List of POV edits by Slavomacedonians. Feel free to post all relative garbage in an organised manner, just for the record.  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 10:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks Avg!

Glad you liked your new self-identification!  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 10:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Des il tah. --Telex 17:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Des apanthsh Ektora gia Papachela sth selida mou.  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 08:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Na 'sai kala! an mporeseis na vreis kai na deis ti akrivws elege kai tis piges, tha itan pragmatika polu xrisimo... --Hectorian 01:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Avg

People have been criticising my mapmaking skills. You don't think this is bad, do you? --Telex 18:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stan lazaridis

hi avg, you said: "read the email of user Makedonia. It is very clear that he is asked to leave Stan Lazaridis out of any nationalistic dispute, since he is loved from both Slav and Greek Macedonians in Australia. I will respect this and I hope user Makedonia does the same" Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Stan_Lazaridis"

Thats why i accept the last version of GR MANOS. i think this version is the right one, however as i said, i accept the version of GR MANOS too. I hope you will support me, greetings!--Makedonia 15:00, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

hi avg, i know but i do think the version how it now is is ok, and should be left like this agreement, however if in the future it will again be a matter of debate, then i will support your option to fully remove any of his background and just mention him as an australian. --Makedonia 20:16, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Politis wrote this in my talk:

LOL...! By the way, estila kati sto [3] regarding Lazarides.

Read the links. NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 22:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

avg, as we all can see this isnt going to take us any further, i edit the article and immediatelly after 1 second it is rv'ed, vice versa. so i accept your suggestion to remove any reference to his origins. however i think the Categories: Greek Australians and Macedonian Australians should stay , because we macedonians see him as macedonian, and you greeks as greek. again i am willing to compromise, isnt that funny? i am the only one who is willing to compromise at all sort of things, and still i am the one who is called stubborn, nationalistic etc etc etc. Regards! --Makedonia 19:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POLL

No, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need:

Improvement of the <ref> function.

Please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes#Poll!  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 21:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] and another Poll...

Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :NikoSilver: 21:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology)

Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :NikoSilver: 22:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ela

On the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah page there was a graphic image of a dead child on his front on a street that had been totally destroyed by Israeli bombs. You could not see the kid's face or anything and the picture is not dominated by him but it was clear he was dead. This picture was the popular choice to show the true victims of the War so far, but a girl called dennoe who was offended got it removed. I have just set up a poll and if you could way in with some support it would be much appreciated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict#POLL # Reaper7  

[edit] 2 Polls that may be of interest...

Hey, kindly check:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Misconceptions about Iran
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ehud Olmert and Iran

Thanks. :NikoSilver: 01:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibreak?

That wasn't a wikibreak! That was wikicomma! WTF have you been re? •NikoSilver• 00:26, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

for the congratulations :) - FrancisTyers · 11:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Just fishin...

...Like the bait? -> Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Greece#Members •NikoSilver• 22:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject History of Greece Newsletter - Issue I - September 2006

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[edit] Muchas gracias

Hey Avg, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The real name of FYROM is Vardarska Banovina. Have a nice day people.

[edit] Thank you for your support!

23:42, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

If I'm a bit pale in the face now, it's because of the amazing support during my recent request for adminship and because of all those new shiny buttons. And if in the future my use of them should not always be perfect please don't hesitate to shout at me any time, sunset, noon or sunrise.

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[edit] Solomou, Isaak

Hi Avg, per your request these are the uploaded ones, if you need more just let me know [Image:Solomou shot by Kenan Akin and Erdan Emanet.jpg] [Image:Tasos Isaak murdered.jpg] Aristovoul0s 08:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] --tony esopi patra^talk 19:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Kalispera. an xreiastite tin psifo mou gia kapoio artro enimeroseme, den xero aglika alla KEEP xero na grafo, Min tous loipatse tous malakopitoures tous skopianous, den theloun eleos. --tony esopi patra^talk 19:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Isaak Solomou

Assasination einai otan dolofoneitai kapoios pou einai simantiko atomo, aksiomatouxos. dld politiko prosopo eitai stratigikis simasias atomo. Stin periptosi twn dio irowm, itan aploi polites mias diadilosis.User talk:KRBN 12:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

I just got your note. I had changed the "so-called" a bit since it still seemed a bit of an awkward word to use. So what about the latest version?Baristarim 03:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem! I think that finding a compromise is simply better because it stops waste of time on edit-wars and is healthier for the working environnment. As for the other thing :) I see what you mean, and I try to do my best to cleanup all over the place to reduce the potential. I cannot be all over the place! I will try to mention it to him though. Cheers! Baristarim 04:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

lool. [4] :) Baristarim 04:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)