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NikoSilver is currently working his ass off in real life and has decided that it is about time his long RealLifeBreak in favor of WP was interrupted. He will make frequent brief RealLifeBreaks, but you won't see him as much as you may be used to. (Yeah, he knows you're better off!)

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Contents 1 Remarks 2 History of Greece WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - November 2006 3 Philhellenism Requests Your Assistnace 4 WikiProject Greece Newsletter - Issue V (I) - January 2007 5 Location Maps 6 Just wondering... 7 Ela 8 Amfipoli 9 AfDs 10 WikiProject Greece Newsletter - Issue VII (III) - March 2007 11 Re 12 300 (soundtrack) 13 Lake Stymphalus 14 Barnstar 15 Χριστός ανέστη! 16 Thema of Macedonia

[edit] History of Greece WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - November 2006

The History of Greece WikiProject Newsletter Issue III - November 2006
Project news This is our third Newsletter! Please comment on its form, the way it is delivered , its content etc. We need your ideas and contributions! The New articles section is created! lease, add there any new article you create. Check the section and comment on the way it is structured and works. Your contributions and ideas are necessary! The Peer review department has been created; it hopes to become an important tool for the amelioration of the articles within the scope of the project. Please, review and get reviewed! Check our Announcements and Open tasks. The Announcements sub-section is just created. Feel free to add there new events valuable for the function of our project. New shortcuts for the Outreach have been created. This will make easier your wikilinking! New initiatives are needed in order to keep our project working!	Current proposals and discussions Discussion continues about the possible imrovements of the follownig articles: Phanariotes and the Byzantine Empire. A discussion about the creation of a sub-page/task-force that will focus on POV disputes has begun (here). Greek Mythology is up for review in Wikipedia:Featured article review/Greek mythology and its FA status is endangered! A discussion about the organization of some face to face meet-ups has begun in the Outreach department. If you think that this would be feasible and productive, please feel free to participate in this discussion.
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[edit] Philhellenism Requests Your Assistnace

Γειά σου NikoSilver!!!

Είμαι ακόμα νέος σε Wikipedia, και θα επιθυμούσα να δημιουργήσω τη σελίδα χρηστών. Είστε ικανοί να με βοηθήσετε; —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Philhellenism (talk • contribs) 06:25, December 15, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Greece Newsletter - Issue V (I) - January 2007

The WikiProject Greece Newsletter Issue V (I) - January 2007
Project news This is the first Newsletter of the new and enhanced Wikiproject Greece and the first of 2007! Please comment on its form, the way it is delivered , its content etc. We need your ideas and contributions! The History of Greece Wikiproject and the Wikiproject Greece have been merged into the new Wikiproject Greece after the discussion between the members of both projects here. New parameters have been added in our banner, {{WPHOG}}, which allow the reviewer who evaluates the quality of an article and rates it to check the five criteria in the project's new quality scale, in order to determine whether an article deserves B-Class rating or not. Guidelines for the use of the banner are here. All the templates of the project and other templates for Greece-related articles are now gathered here. New sources concerning the "Greek onomatology" have been added in our main page. The Portal:Military of Greece has been created so if anyone wants to help go right ahead!	Current proposals and discussions Check the list with our articles needing attention, where Great Fire of Smyrna has been added. A suggestion for the creation of a fortnight or month Collaboration has been made here. Please, voice yourself: do you think this Collaboration is useful? Are you willing to participate? A proposal for the creation of a "Greece military history taskforce" has been made. Please participate in the discussion here and express yourself. The creation of a "Greek peoples task focre" and of a "Greek location task force" has been also proposed. Your contribution to the discussion here is again valuable. You can also check the discussion for the categorization of Roman-era Greeks here.
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[edit] Location Maps

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, you had either explictly declared a general interest in the project, or had participated at a discussion that appears related to Location Maps for European countries.
New maps had been created by David Liuzzo, and are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish whether the new style maps may be applied as soon as some might become available for countries outside the European continent (or such to depend on future discussions), and also which new version should be applied for which countries.
Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. The subsections on the talk page that had shown David Liuzzo's original maps, now show his most recent design.
Please read the discussion (also in other sections α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ) and in particular the arguments offered by the forementioned poll, while realizing some comments to have been made prior to updating the maps, and all prior to modifying the licences, before carefully reading the presentation of the currently open survey. You are invited to only then finally make up your mind and vote for only one option.
There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 7 Feb 2007 20:26 (UTC)

15:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just wondering...

Talk moved to User talk:NikoSilver/Signature shop/Kukini.

15:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ela

Just to say I started a new site and forum for football ect, you are invited ofcourse and anyone else you want to bring!

http://barmedfootball.informe.com/index.php

Hope to see you on there!

# Reaper7  

15:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amfipoli

Hi, I added a paragragraph in the article Amfipoli. Could you look at and maybe it edit? It's the last paragraph. Here's the link to the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amfipoli Thanks! Neptunekh 07:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

About the information I got on Amipoli, I'll delete it if it will make everyone happy. I don't mant to cause trouble. Neptunekh 22:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok that merge sounds great. I promise I won't copywrite anymore. Would you mind looking at these 2 Greek articles I added paragraph in there. Kirra and Nea Potidea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirra_%28Fokida%29%2C_Greece

I agree to the merge.Neptunekh 17:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfDs

Listen, just on a note, I had thought that the TR Settlement article was a non-issue since it truly seemed as a fork of Cyprus dispute, surely you must see this? I had no ill-intent of POV-pushing in my mind when I nominated it and precisely said "merge (if possible) any meaningful content to Cyprus dispute". I was doing cleanup among new articles and WPTR ones, and nominated another one right after. It had nothing to do with being anti-Greek or anything, you have my word on that. However, I also would like to note for the record that I find it a bit troubling this sudden surge of interest in Turkey-related AfDs, I honestly had thought that this tension between Tr and Gr users (established ones) were over - I am particularly concerned with this unstated assumption of bad-faith of TR editors present on the part of some Greek editors. I hope that I am mistaken, because there was "no secret agenda" - you should know that I am concentrated most of the time on Turkey-exclusive, philosophy related or general upkeep stuff on Wiki.. I nom AfDs and speedy deletions regularly on a wide range of articles, particularly since I regularly check "recent changes" section.. Baristarim 21:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Greece Newsletter - Issue VII (III) - March 2007

The WikiProject Greece Newsletter Issue VII (III) - March 2007
Project news This is the third Newsletter of the new and enhanced Wikiproject Greece! Please comment on its form, the way it is delivered , its content etc. We need your ideas and contributions! The WikiProject Greece Barnstar, the project's official award, has been adopted to be bestowed on anyone who has made significant contributions to Wikipedia's coverage of Greece-related articles or to the project itself. You are free to comment on it and to improve the template of the award! A new and reformed Review department allows you not only to submit articles for peer-reviews, but also to watch all Greece-related FAC, FAR or FARC nominations. A new seperate page with the project's members has been created. Two new catogories (Category:Disambig-Class Greek articles and Category:Template-Class Greek articles) as sbu-cats of the Category:Non-article Greece pages have been created. The new {{Infobox Greek Dimos}} template for municipalities has been launched!	Current proposals and discussions A discussion about the achievements of the project and its future priorities and plans took place here. You can also see the discussion here about the organization of NA categories of the project. A discussion is going on at WP:MILHIST about whether or not an Ottoman task force should be created. See the discussions about the move proposals concerning certain Chalkidiki-related pages. Help for the expansion of the article about Greek police has been requested here. The issue of naming conventions concerning the various factions of the Greek Civil War has been raised here.
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[edit] Re

Aha. It will become a seperate article? Please.. See WP:FRINGE - that is really overdoing it. Also see undue weight btw. It is a minority point of view and none of those academics represent a concensus, let alone overwhelming, in academia. Some users are really going out of their way with these. I personally consider that the consistent involvement of so many Greek editors in that range of articles, particularly considering the debate at PGG, is really making it worse by turning Wikipedia into a nationalist battleground (Politis made a remark to that effect in the talk page of that article, might want to read it). I also think it is really weird, including so many fringe theories and giving them undue weight simply because they "get one over the Turks". It is not cool Nikos.. There are better ways to cooperate, rather than going down that path.

For example, you are consistently searching for additions that show Turkey and Turks in a bad light, but none vice versa. If it were about a Greece related article I could understand, but it really baffles me in this case. What is it this obsession? How many Turkish editors are editing Macedonia or purely-Greece related articles and consistently digging up the most fringe sources that show how bad Greeks were etc?

By the way, since you reminded me at an earlier time: Do not use popups for content reverts. Just a note.. Baristarim 19:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I had a list of diffs somewhere where Baris was using popups to revert war. What did I do with it?--Domitius 19:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Re popup-reverts, I never use the same justification twice. My first revert was more than justified through its edit summary. Re article, "fringe" my ass... there are three academics, and the section is already titled "...claims" anyway. Re Macedonia et al hidden threats, the fringe theories are all presented. Feel free to browse for more. NikoSilver 19:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

What Macedonia hidden threats? I have been reverting vandals and POV in those articles for months. AGF? Do you seriously think that I will sink that low to start edit-warring in those articles because of this? In any case, I don't have an obssession with Macedonia or anything, couldn't care less really.. As for popups, exactly: When I have used the popups before, it was for the exact same reason: My edit summaries and reasons were already spelt out. See? You shouldn't have warned me the same way back in the day, that's all I am saying. As for, fringe - it definitely is a fringe theory^{[citation needed]} considering that practically no-one in academia,^{[citation needed]} particularly serious academia^{[citation needed]} refer to it as such - it is to compensate for that the whole section has turned into the exposé of the views of only two guys..^{[citation needed]it was 3} Anyways, I really wonder where all this anger and energy is coming from Nikos, you are really going out of your way.. Anyways.. Baristarim 19:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Popups you used for first edits also. I specifically said even then that I don't use them in rv-wars after the first justification, if unanswered (as is the case). Anger? Ex idion ta allotria maybe?

For the rest I added fact tags to show where you're wrong. NikoSilver 20:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe they are taking last saturday's football result too seriously :P --A.Garnet 19:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Haha! Some Greek "fans" actually did. Their barbaric behavior was quite detestful, and I feel ashamed to belong in the same ethnic group. I hope our government finds a way to crash these phenomena. NikoSilver 20:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

The result was just because the TR team was cheating like mad! :) --Domitius 20:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok guys, good laughs, but let's cool it a notch :) Don't want it getting out of hand. As for the article, we can discuss it later I suppose - I am sure that there are more fun things to do for all of us at the moment.

As for the popups, I had taken notice and I am making a point of not using it for a first revert.Baristarim 20:26, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 300 (soundtrack)

Hi Nick, I see that you edit 300 (film). Do you know #4. "Returns A King" of the 300 (soundtrack)? --Odysses (☜) 14:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

No, I can't distinguish which it was from those I heard while watching the movie. What about it? NikoSilver 14:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The article 300 (soundtrack) says lyrics is in Latin, but I think that is sounds something like "έρχομαι...ποτάμι Ευρώτα ..." but I'm no good in "deciphering" lyrics. Are you? See also lyrics in Mythodea.--Odysses (☜) 15:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Where can I listen to it? NikoSilver 16:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Can I attach to mail?--Odysses (☜) 16:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sent. Listen to 01:05 to 01:07 --Odysses (☜) 16:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Too big; hasn't arrived. I'll e-mail you my other address which is unlimited. NikoSilver 21:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Re-sent. You may be able to listen or buy here--Odysses (☜) 07:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

 :-( Still it doesn't go through, and the linked file does not play in my PC for some γαμημένο reason. I really don't know how I can help! :-( Grrrr! Happy Pascha! NikoSilver 08:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Καλό Πάσχα!

Now I'm going to prepare the barbeque lamb for tomorrow :-) --Odysses (☜) 07:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lake Stymphalus

Hi I created an article about a lake in Greece called Lake Stymphalus. Would you mind looking at it and cleaning it or editing it? Here's the link to the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Stymphalus. Thanks! Neptunekh 18:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

You may be interested to check Stymfalia and Stymphalian birds.--Odysses (☜) 07:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The Barnstar of WPGreece
		For your help with WP:GREECE, your great often Aristophanic humor, your interest in Greece-related articles, your FA contributions concerning Macedonia, your courage to firmly stand by your beliefs, and your exciting Nationality quiz I award you with pleasure this barnstar of national pride, waiting again for to see you back more active, vivid, and humorous.--Yannismarou 10:31, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

An award by you especially, is an honor of additional value which I probably don't deserve! Thank you Yanni and Kalo Pascha! NikoSilver 13:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Χριστός ανέστη!

Χριστός ανέστη! --PaxEquilibrium 14:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Hristos a înviat! --Biruitorul 17:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Buona Pasqua! :-)--Aldux 17:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey, from me too - frohe Ostern! --Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:00, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Христос Воскресе!   /FunkyFly.talk_  14:28, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thema of Macedonia

A while back there was this lack of info about where precisely was that thema located. I dont know if you have better sources, but I came accross this one: [1].   /FunkyFly.talk_  14:28, 9 April 2007 (UTC)