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[edit] Description of Newspapers

Surgo, I think you might have interpreted my description of the Free Press as "generally more radical than" as pejorative, but it was not. Unless things have changed a ton in the time I left Bard, you'll find very few people making the claim that the Free Press isn't more radical than the Observer, including most of the Free Press staff. The reporting and editorial content consistently brings to light less established left-wing voices, Palestinian rights, and far more protest coverage than the Observer, and they rely far more heavily on organizations like indymedia.org to fill out their news.

If others disagree, I'll withdraw my claim, but either way I think it's worth inserting a descriptive word or two distinguishing the two papers. -Toscaesque 05:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Depends on when you left Bard, I suppose. I interpreted the statement as POV, which is why I removed it. If you feel that it isn't POV, feel free to add it back. Surgo 00:41, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of US News & World Report?

I'm reverting the deletion of the info about the US News & World Report ranking, as it seems to be a relevant piece of information. If there is some reason why it should be deleted, please say so in the edit summary. wilhelm 14:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree, but don't you think it's worth mentioning in the first graph like it did orginally? --Toscaesque 16:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Could be. I wasn't sure what the protocol was for that, so I thought maybe it would be good to put it in "Bard in Media". However, it doesn't make much difference to the integrity of the article either way. wilhelm 16:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Botstein on annual publication: "It is the most successful journalistic scam I have seen in my entire adult lifetime -- corrupt, intellectually bankrupt and revolting."
What if we push the ranking down somewhere below (like under Bard in media), but include that quote? Do you have a citation? Toscaesque 20:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bard Debate Team

I don't want to offend any debate team members, but is it really a prominent enough club to devote this much space? If no one objects, I'd like to remove or at least seriously edit down that part of the section. -Toscaesque 19:28, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, it is a very accomplished club, and does phenomenonally well in debates...72.90.146.5 01:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)Emili

[edit] Photos

Good photos able to be found here: http://contentdm.senylrc.org/cdm4/browse.php?CISOROOT=/bard&CISOSTART=1,21.

Are they fair use? Also, why did you delete the information in the intro of the article? wilhelm 15:59, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drug Use

Among the student population, drug abuse (particularly use of marijuana) was not long ago ranked by Princeton review as among the highest in the country. Though it is still comparitively accepted by the student community, use of illicit substances is considered unacceptable by the administration of the college. In 2006, this resulted in a crackdown (spearheaded by Erin Canaan and former Director of Residence Life, Fred Barnes) characterized by a series of highly suspect interrogations, and a purge of the student drug-culture, in which a number of students were expelled, and there arose a stricter enforcement of the official policy of proscription.

There's a lot in here that's very POV. Please tone it down. Toscaesque 16:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Tried to fix towards more NPOV (though I'm sympathetic to the POV previously expressed). Should we maybe split Student Life into more sections? --OliverTraldi 09:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Dylan

I moved the following section here until it can be verified by a reliable source--some links to a message board doesn't cut it, unfortunately. Toscaesque 05:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Bard also features in several songs on Bob Dylan's Bringing It All Back Home, which was written during the time in which he was a frequent visitor to the campus. One line (from "Subterranean Homesick Blues") that likely refers to Bard is "The pump don't work 'cause the vandals stole the handle". [1] Another line refers to the drug bust in 1969 in which future Steely Dan members Walter Becker and Donald Fagen were arrested ("Must bust in early May/Orders from the DA"). [2]

[edit] Housing

A lot of college pages have descriptions of student housing. I'm not sure what everyone's views are on the necessity of such descriptions, but I know that, for example, Vassar gives descriptions of all of its dorms, and I think could conceivably be of interest. Perhaps someone who knows a bit about the dorms (I'm not scheduled to move in until the 12th; class of '10 here) could do a write-up? Or are we of the opinion that such things aren't encyclopedic? Burndownthedisco talk 20:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Honestly I'm not sure that would be a good use of space. There are a lot of dorms, some very small, and they're all pretty unique. Maybe a description of the main dorm complexes (e.g. toasters, Cruger Village) could be informative... See you on the 12th (or if not, once the semester starts). --OliverTraldi 00:53, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Simon's Rock and BHSEC

Shouldn't there be more of a description of the links between Bard and Simon's Rock College of Bard and between Bard and Bard High School Early College/ the role Bard played in "whatever"ing them, because it is not clear. I have already included external links at the bottom of the pages.

[edit] "Ranked among the nation's top colleges"

Sorry, this is not a statement of fact, and does not belong in an encyclopedia article.

This is simply because the word "top" is not well-defined and entirely subjective. just the facts, please.Daqu 06:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Drop Outs

citations needed, or this could be libellous. Also, who is Hannah Schneider?? raining girl 18:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Does anyone have a better picture for the inset? The one I put there is beyond awful. I wasn't expecting it would stay there for so long. Toscaesque 16:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

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