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Contents 1 Pipe sorting 2 Italian-Americans 3 Deletion tag removed 4 To make fire 5 Michael Michai Cardinal Kitbunchu 6 Lead vs. led 7 Change in the purpose of the list of cardinals 8 FGrH 9 Move of New Atlantis to Nova atlantis 10 Thanks 11 College basketball coaches 12 David Gavitt 13 Drazen Petrovic 14 Image Tagging Image:Bee.jpg 15 Jürgen Habermas 16 Welcome! 17 Importance ratings 18 WikiCookie 19 Your work may get deleted, check this 20 Biography Newsletter September 2006 21 Scientist Box 22 Image tagging for Image:Julius weizsaecker.png 23 Justus von Dohnányi 24 Image tagging for Image:Karl_heinrich_weizsacker.png 25 OJ Mayo 26 Request for Comment 27 Infobox Fields 28 Joachim Fest 29 reference to Jie of Xia 30 O.J. Mayo 31 South Gwinnett High School 32 Speedy deletion of Jimmy Clausen 33 Edit summary 34 Hi Bender235 35 Reggie Ball 36 Dominic Robinson 37 2007 NBA Draft 38 NFL player infobox colors 39 Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies 40 Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter 41 European Hall of Fame 42 Longhorn player wikilinks 43 Please Stop 44 AfD nomination of Tyreke Evans 45 RE: Please vote 46 AfD nomination of Mike Mercer

[edit] Pipe sorting

Noticed your edit of Glenn Davis; absolutely no complaint about it, nor any harm done, but to save you needless editing time in the future, the pipe sort is unaffected, alas, by anything after the first word of it. The purpose of the pipe sort is merely to alphabetize him correctly, after which it doesn't care. Thus, thru the marvels of computer stuff, "|Davis" is sufficient to get him listed as "Davis, /remainder of article name/". Notice for example that he still is not listed as Davis, Glenn Woodward in the category lists, for example Category:West Point graduates; it would indeed be nice, rather than the awkward listing as it stands, but I, at least, know of no way of doing that. Best, Bill 18:58, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay. No problem. Thanks. -- Bender235 21:21, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Italian-Americans

Can you please help me in understanding how one qualifies as Italian-American? Does that imply that they have citizenship in both Italy and the U.S/Canada? Would it mean that both parents are of Italian ancestry, but a citizen of the U.S. (or vice-versa)? One parent? Or possibly just having a last last name that sounds Italian (or Italian with an American sounding name)? How many generations, or at what percentage of blood relation does it take to still be Italian-American? I am asking because there are no German-American, or Russian-American, or Brazilian-American categories, yet the Italian-American category is quite extensive. Cacophony 04:14, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

I guess someone's Italian-American if his family is originally from Italy. But why do you ask me? I didn't create that category, I was just adding people that were missing. -- Bender235 09:03, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion tag removed

Why did you nominate my article Paul Grimes for speedy deletion? I shall remove the tag. Ncik 01 Apr 2005

I just don't see how this person is worth an article. However, if want to keep it, it's ok. -- Bender235 00:51, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] To make fire

hello, I try to translate a page from french to english. To do it I copy/paste the french version on the english version page and translat it stpe by step. So can i do it by this way or not ? You wnat to delete this page because it's too much french inside ? tell me how to process. Bye ecitizen (on the fr.wikipedia.org or ecitizen@free.Fr) thanks for reply

[edit] Michael Michai Cardinal Kitbunchu

Please use the "move" function if you want to move an article to a new location. If the move isn't possible for whatever reason, please list it on Wikipedia:Requested moves. Moving articles by copy-and-paste is a bad idea, as it destroy the editing history. andy 13:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Okay. My bad. Won't happen again. -- Bender235 13:04, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I fixed it already - if any edits by you were lost in the process, please feel free to redo them. andy 13:07, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lead vs. led

"Lead," the element, rhymes with "led," the past tense and participle of "lead," the verb (which rhymes with "read" and "reed," but not "read" or "red," just to illustrate the perversity of English pronunciation and spelling), but should not be confused with it. So when you are referring to the Rick Barry-led Oaks, please use the correct form. You are not alone in this, but you are a prolific writer, so a word to the wise should help avoid this problem in the future. 24.126.41.116 13:01, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC) aka User:Italo Svevo

Ok, thanks. -- Bender235 13:03, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Change in the purpose of the list of cardinals

You changed this on April 6th to a list of cardinals living now. Where are the others? Michael Hardy 00:22, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FGrH

I want to thank you for correcting the spelling of this source in the Golden Fleece article. I am curious, how did you find the misspelling? --Canon 16:28, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Search. I was looking for "FGrHist" etc. That's it. And since I am German, it was easy to see that "... der griechischer Historiker" was wrong. ;-) --Bender235 15:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I think this is an example of a very interesting "invisible hand" process that improves Wikipedia. If you don't mind I have a couple more questions for you as an agent of the "invisible hand." The Golden Fleece article does not actually contain the text "FGrHist," so did you go to the trouble of trying several searches using different key words to locate all references? Or did you just happen upon it while reading the Golden Fleece article? What motivated you to make this link? Did you create the entry for FGrHist?

So right now I'm the object of some sort of scientific study, or what? ;-) I wasn't only looking for "FGrHist", that's why I wrote "etc." behind it. I took "FGrHist", "Jacoby", "Fragmente der griechischen Historiker", and so on, in order to create links on that articles to Die Fragmente der griechischen Historiker. I did create that one. But actually there was already an article on this book, named Fragmente der griechischen Historiker, so some admin merged both articles a few minutes after I created the first one. BTW: Why are you asking me all that stuff? --Bender235 22:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

No sceintific study at all. I was just impressed that you had done so much work to find the articles that needed linking up and I was wondering why. Thanks again for doing it. Canon 04:02, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Sure. That's what Wikipedia is all about. Helping each other to improve the whole project. --Bender235 09:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move of New Atlantis to Nova atlantis

Thanks for thinking of doing this, but English is generally preferred over original titles. Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English). I have moved it back to its original title. Thanks --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 14:59, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I didn't knew the policies in English Wikipedia. In German wikipedia, the original title is prefered. --Bender235 13:24, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hey I appreciate you updating the succession boxes for Ohio State Basketball coaches. Saved me some research time as I plan on writing articles for all of them. -- mmeinhart 17:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. But I'm still not sure about how counting the years a coach has been with the team. For example, Randy Ayers has been coaching the Buckeyes from the 89/90 to the 96/97 season, and O'Brien from 97/98 to 03/04: should we write "Ayers 89-97, O'Brien 97-04" or "Ayers 90-97, O'Brien 98-04"? --Bender235 22:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

• I like it the first way you have it, starting with the year that the coach began and disregarding the season as every college basketball season runs over yearly. -- mmeinhart 22:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok. --Bender235 22:55, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah you're right...by the looks of the info you sent me, it looks like the 2nd way by season is the best way to go. Thanks for the input. mmeinhart 03:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] College basketball coaches

Hi there. I just wanted to encourage you while you're making categories for college basketball, to please do two things: (1) follow the naming conventions in Category:College football teams, where we try awfully hard not to use shorthand like "SFC" and "NAU" when the school's abbreviation is not well known (unlike, say, LSU or USC); and (2) link the category to a basketball category, which links to the school category. Check out any of the other categories to see how that's done. As a general rule, we don't create categories unless we have three or four players, but that's been disregarded lots of times. Anyway, thanks!--Mike Selinker 08:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok. --Bender235 21:20, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Gavitt

Thanks for the correction. I must have looked at the list of '06 inductees 10 times yesterday and never saw his name! My apologies. Joe 16:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drazen Petrovic

I've been a little slow to respond. See Talk:Dražen Petrović. Damir 18:02, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Jürgen Habermas

There is no referencing, and there are too many lists throughout the article. I can't verify a lot of the information in the article as well (and there are no sources). --GoOdCoNtEnT 22:33, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay. --Bender235 22:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

[edit] Importance ratings

Hello, Though it is hard to quantify this kind of thing, and it is to some extent a subjective judgement, I would suggest that a practice which was adopted throughtout ancient Greece, and which informed art, politics, philosophy, sports, and the military, and which is thought by a number of modern scholars to have been at the root of the "Greek miracle" deserves to be considered as having "top" importance. I am talking about Greek pederasty, of course. Is there some specific reason why you removed that label from the article? Haiduc 20:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't see it as "Top" important from an encyclopedic standpoint. I doubt it is as important as say Ancient Rome or Peloponnesian War. --Bender235 21:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

"The erotic relation of men to youths was the necessary and sole preparation, to a degree unattainable to our comprehension, of all manly education." —Nietzsche
There are kmany others that attest to the critical importance of pederasty, but I do not think it necessary to trot them all out. Unless you can come up with countervailing sources suggesting a lesser importance I suggest we revert. Haiduc 02:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Why we have importance ratings anyway? Different editors are going to have different ideas of what's important, and the ratings seem like creations of individual editors rather than some process of consensus. I'd rather not have them at all. --Akhilleus (talk) 04:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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Very nice. Thanks. :-) --Bender235 10:59, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Justus von Dohnányi

Hi,

I noticed you just contributed the article about the Justus von Dohnányi. I just wanted to inform you that you can post any Germany-related articles at Portal:Germany/New articles and Portal:Germany/New article announcements. I have gone ahead and posted the article on both pages.--Carabinieri^T_T^a_a^l_l^k_k 22:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

PS: The same goes for Julius Weizsäcker.--Carabinieri^T_T^a_a^l_l^k_k 22:37, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for that information. --Bender235 23:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] OJ Mayo

Thanks for the touch up job on the article. Good work. youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 15:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for Comment

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[edit] Infobox Fields

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[edit] Joachim Fest

Thankyou for classing this article as "start class." I look forward to you contributing your vast knowledge of German history and literature to improving it. Adam 09:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] reference to Jie of Xia

Hello!! Thanks for adding a reference to the article Jie of Xia (about the consequences of the eruption of Thera. Guss2 18:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Du kannst übrigens auch Deutsch mit mir sprechen, da ich gesehen habe, dass du "sehr gute Deutschkenntnisse" hast. --Bender235 19:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] O.J. Mayo

I reverted your above page move, but I wanted to give you the courtesy of explaining my action. As you can see here, the format that you proposed is generally correct. However, in the same section, the guideline reads "An abbreviation of a first or last name (or omitting punctuation marks and spaces as described above) is only possible if this can be considered as a well established and generally used subject's name or nick name."

In his hometown and in the local and national media, he is refered to as "O.J." After he goes on to the NBA, this may change and a move along the lines that you proposed may indeed be prudent. For the time being, however, the article should remain named "O.J. Mayo."

That being said, thanks for your interest in the article, and keep up your excellent work on Wikipedia. youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 01:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South Gwinnett High School

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[edit] Edit summary

—Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 22:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Bender235

I just want to let you know that I change the color for the Titans player in their info box because the color is similar to the Houston Texans. Thanks --Phbasketball6 02:15, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reggie Ball

Do we know that Reggie Ball is going pro? If so, can you provide a source? —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 01:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

He is a senior, isn't he? If he is not in the 2007 NFL Draft, feel free to change the infobox. --Bender235 08:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

He is a senior, but I have no idea if he's going into the draft. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 08:41, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Aren't seniors automatically eligible? I think so. That's why only underclassmen declare for the Draft. --Bender235 08:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dominic Robinson

Hi. I wondered if you were planning to fix these following your recent page move. I was about to do it, but I don't want to get into an edit conflict if you're doing the same! Regards, CiaranG 14:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll do. --Bender235 14:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 NBA Draft

Please stop adding the list of players. As I said in the discussion, there is no reference provided, nor is there any explanation to the rankings. If you even took a look at the mock drafts listed on the bottom, none of them even agree outside of the top two players. Lastly, no player has even declared for the draft yet. It would be ridiculous to put up a list of players if a player may not even declare for the draft. Do not add the list again unless you provide a reasonable explanation. 75.177.47.183 01:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I have asked many times for you to comment, yet you insist on adding the player projections without doing so. Please comment. 75.177.47.183 23:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NFL player infobox colors

I saw that you took the color out of Joe Montana's infobox, I first was against retired players having it but then I realized I was fighting a battle that couldn't be won. Thanks --Phbasketball6 01:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies

Seeing that you are an active member of the WikiBiography Project, I was wondering if you would help lend a hand in helping us clear out the amount of unassessed articles tagged with {{WPBiography}}. Many of them are of stub and start class, but a few are of B or A caliber. Getting a simple assessment rating can help us start moving many of these biographies to a higher quality article. Thank you! --Ozgod 20:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] European Hall of Fame

Actually there is such a thing. [4] War wizard90 01:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Man, this is fan project. This means about as much as little Timmy's "favorite movies list" on any given website. You can't compare this nonsense to the real Basketball Hall of Fame or the College Basketball Hall of Fame. --Bender235 01:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Longhorn player wikilinks

Hello Bender, I see you added some redlinks to Template:2005 Texas Longhorn roster. May I inquire how you selected the players to link? I had previously only linked players who already have articles. Do you think these players are likely to get articles soon? Johntex\^talk 18:27, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I do. And some of the players you've linked didn't have articles, btw, like Aaron Lewis and Aaron Harris. --Bender235 19:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, as of my last version of the template, all the linked players did have links.[5] You say you believe those articles will be created, but you don't say why you believe that. Could you please enlighten me? I don't have a strong objection excepet that it seems like we should have some criteria for why we are redlinking some names and not others. Johntex\^talk 20:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Check Aaron Lewis and Aaron Harris. These aren't football players.

I don't know if or when new articles will be created. I just linked a few players that I think a above-average in this team. --Bender235 20:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I see that now. My point is that I wikilinked all the players who had articles (or that I thought had articles). I think that is a logical cut-off. If they don't have articles now, it seems better not to link them unless the articles or planned. Johntex\^talk 00:44, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please Stop

please stop deleting the color from retired players like Michael Irvin and Dan Marino.--Bucs10 00:33, 8 March 2007

Stop adding a color! Those players are retired. Team colors are only for active players. --Bender235 02:01, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Tyreke Evans

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[edit] RE: Please vote

See Template talk:Infobox NFL player#Retired players. --Bender235 14:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the heads-up. —xanderer 14:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Mike Mercer

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