Talk:Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky metropolitan area

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This area is in Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, but only Ohio template is on the article. Is there any particular reason for this? Adding other two templates seems to be too much for a rather short article. -- Obradović Goran (ta^lk 9 July 2005 19:16 (UTC)

I put most of the content on, but the template was already there. I determined that only the Ohio tempate has the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky metropolitan area listed as a region, so I suspect that's why only the Ohio template is there. Salsb 19:28, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

Cleveland is the largest metropoltian area in ohio, Cuyahoga and its adjacent counties have a population of 2.8 million. I really think it is wrong to play with the numbers,for example Columbus and its surrounding counties are 1.6 million. Again the largest metropolitian area in ohio by far is Cleveland! It is the seat of of the most populated county cuyahoga with 1.3 million people.

[edit] Articles merged

I have merged the articles per the suggestion. I recommend that someone with a more local feel for the area clean the article up. --Carl ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The United States government is generally regarded as the authority on defining the names of metropolitan areas and this area is referred to as Cincinnati-Hamilton, OH-KY-IN Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area by both the legislative branch of government (United States Congress [1]) and the executive branch of government (United States Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census [2]). Is there an explanation why 'Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky metropolitan area' is given a preference over the official government name of 'Cincinnati-Hamilton, OH-KY-IN Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area'?

Article titles are generally what the commonly used name of the thing is. The Census-Bureau names are not commonly used except when tabulating statistics. For example Bill Gates is the article title instead of William Henry Gates III (which is a redirect). --Polaron | Talk 03:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

If someone is doing research on a metropolitan area, the name designated by the Bureau of the Census would be the name commonly used, as opposed to the name of an individual person.-Chris24 03:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

But do you go by the Primary Metropolitan Service Area (and which one?), the Consolidated Metropolitan Service Area or the Combined Metropolitan Service Area. I don't know why this article started with the generic name, but my opinion is to put redirects at all five of the official MSAs referenced in this article. --Carl ^{(talk|contribs)} 04:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

My opinion is that we should be editors and not authors, and the United States Government calls this metro area 'Cincinnati-Hamilton, OH-KY-IN Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area'. -Chris24 04:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Pick your name -

• Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN Combined Statistical Area
• Cincinnati-Hamilton, OH-KY-IN Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area
• Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN Primary Metropolitan Statistical Area
• Hamilton-Middletown, OH PMSA
• Wilmington, OH Micropolitan Statistical Area

All five of these Statistical Areas are mentioned in this article. If you wanted to pick one single official designation, it'd need to be the first one, as it encompasses all four of the others. The second is the combination of the third and fourth, with the first one being the second with the addition of the fifth. However, I'm more in favor of not choosing any one of them and saying something to the effect of:

• Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky Metropolitan Area is an informal term referring to the general geographic area surrounding Cincinnati, OH, and extending into Northern Kentucky and Southeastern Indiana. It is comprised chiefly of the Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, OH-KY-IN Combined Statistical Area.

I would also point out that the technical naming convention does not seem to be the standard way of doing things. If you look at the list of Combined Statistical Area, only one of the 25 largest combined statistical areas has the phrase "statistical area" in the title. Several of them use a phraseology similar to the one above, including Chicagoland. --Carl ^{(talk|contribs)} 05:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Once again...... The name is not one that I 'pick', it is the official name. Cincinnati-Hamilton, OH-KY-IN Consolidated Metropolitan Statistical Area as named by both the legislative branch of government (United States Congress [3]) and the executive branch of government (United States Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census [4]). One name. Read the name on the link. I did not 'pick' it, it is the accurate name. Chris24 05:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Those official names are outdated. Metro area definitions were overhauled in June 2003. Minor name changes might have also occurred between then and December 2005 (the latest round of name changes). --Polaron | Talk 14:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] article name

Why is this article at a defunct name? If using official OMB names, the current title is incorrect. It should be "Cincinnati-Middletown, OH-KY-IN Metropolitan Statistical Area". Either use a common name or use a correct official name. --Polaron | Talk 06:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

The attempted rename of this article was badly botched. It was done via cut and paste instead of using the move function, so the article history was separated from the article. In addition, the article covers both the Metropolitan Statistical Area and the Combined Statistical Area, so the rename was in error. I've restored the article to its old name. - EurekaLott 18:10, 14 October 2006 (UTC)