Talk:Clannad (visual novel)

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Contents 1 Additional Story Summaries? 2 NPOV? 3 Page move 4 Move Talk page 5 What is EOCS?

[edit] Additional Story Summaries?

I am playing through this game (original PC Japanese version) and can continue to write synopses for each of the characters' stories if it's something worthwhile. The difficulty with the "story" section is that, by the nature of the game, there is no single "story." The story branches out and allows you to explore a story for each of the given characters, and they all deserve equal mention. Any broad statements about the story of the whole game are insufficient and unsatisfactory.

- WrexSoul 18:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV?

Bias: "This game was the subject of much controversy, as it contained no Ecchi content at all, which you would think is a good thing. Go figure."

Might want to rewrite those two sentences?

Obvious NPOV violation. Should be fixed. 67.187.126.3 02:50, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page move

Per other Japanese related articles such as Naruto and even Air (series), and also due to the fact that there is also a page named Clannad, I suggest a move to Clannad (game). However this would have to be a requested move due to the editing of Clannad (game) -- (十八|talk) 08:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move Talk page

This talk page needs to be moved from Talk:Clannad to Talk:Clannad (game) since the article got renamed though the talk page still has the old title. -- (十八|talk) 07:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 09:25, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is EOCS?

I know CERO, but the other is new to me. Doesn't even have an article for it.--SeizureDog 06:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's the Japanese page on it. It stands for Ethics Organization of Computer Software and appears to be similar to CERO.--十八 06:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

So basically it's CERO for PC games?--SeizureDog 09:37, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I can tell, it seems to be geared towards eroge games, but then I have no idea what it's doing on this page if that's the case. I went to the official site and found the purpose. The first part talks about how computers are becoming more important in everyday life and how this directly relates to computer games as well. It goes on to say that the manufacturers of these games have to take this into consideration when developing new games. It seems that the EOCS is an independant group that functions to makes sure that the games produced are good for Japanese society and the EOCS ensures that the ethics behind the game are in line with Japanese society. So in the end it appears to be geared towards perserving the ethics of creating eroge games, or at least games that could be damaging to young Japanese children. Or at least that's what I got out of the translation. If that's the case, then I don't think it should be removed from this article. I think the reason it's there is that Key is known to be an H game producing company, so of course with Clannad being their first non-hentai game, I'm sure the EOCS gave Clannad the All-ages approval to show the public that it really does not have any eroge content in it.

And also, from what you said, yes, it seems to be only for PC games since only PC games can be eroge. --十八 10:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Just to be pedantic, I believe Nintendo actually allows 18+ material on their consoles... Not that anybody is making eroge for the Gamecube or Wii. :P Moogy ^(talk) 15:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

So it's making sure PC porn stays ethical? How does that make sense?--SeizureDog 10:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm no expert on the EOCS (only read a choppy Google-translated purpose from the official website) but it would seem that the EOCS was formed to make sure that the hentai in these games didn't go overboard. As you know, Japan still has laws regarding porn, just they may be more lenient than in some Western countries. Like they can't broadcast hentai anime on TV, or at least that's what I've come to realize. So, okay, "PC porn" as you put it isn't exactly ethical in it's own right, but I guess the EOCS is trying to make sure it doesn't get out of hand.--十八 10:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC)