User talk:CMacMillan

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[edit] Welcome

Hello, CMacMillan, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Newcomers help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and vote pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. Four tildes (~~~~) produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!

...and I just wanted to let you know that if you go to a page to warn someone for vandalism, and see a current {{test4}} (ie the recent Ben Franklin anon vandal) then there is no need to warn with a further test2. You can report them to WP:AIV as a vandal that needs to be blocked from editing. :) Thanks! --Syrthiss 14:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Syrthiss, THANKS for the message, and the links. I've used Wikipedia for a fair amount of information and - naively - was shocked that someone would actually vandalize a page. I may have jumped in too quickly to begin fixing things, but it's in my nature. I really appreciate the links, the message of welcome, and the very well delivered how-to regarding warnings. Now tell me how people keep up with the vandalism? It seems fantastically widespread. CMacMillan 16:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I have to admit, its hard to keep up with it at times. There are a few things that regular users can do to keep up with it: add a few pages where they are familiar with the subject to their watchlist and look for odd changes, or take a look at some of the tools at the cleaning up vandalism wikipage. I too was shocked early on that someone would vandalize articles, though now I've become blase about it and just revert it without a lot of conscious thought. Cheers! :) --Syrthiss 17:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Antun Vrdoljak and Goran Visnjic

At what point does the truth become vandalism?? What specific points did I make that are untruthful or inaccurate??

Please let me know so that this situation does not degenerate into a revert war.

Please disregard anything Demiurge states. He is a wannabe censor who has been caught on numerous occasions by other Wikipedians attempting to censor or gut anything he personally disagrees with or does not like such as edits to pages re Ante Pavelic, pre-Code movies (and movie censorship), domestic terrorism in the US (Irish roots), etc. I hope you are not allowing him to influence you in any way. You will have cause for regret later.

Thanks!! Brandubh Blathmac 15:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Look, I don't know who Demiurge is, I don't know what your issues are and I honestly don't care on either front. Honestly. However, your edits are heavy handed and radical to the articles, as was the removal of the Talk comment. Play within the pillars of Wikipedia, or don't play.

Your other edits seem very well thought out and you've taken a lot of trouble to wikify whole sections of articles. It's obvious you care about what you're doing - just leave the POV at home OR cite sources or arguments for your edits. CMacMillan 15:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I understand your point. No one is 100% immune from POV, regardless of what they claim, and we all have issues. However, as regards Goran Visnjic and Antun Vrdoljak, do I need to cite a source for several seasons worth of pro-Croatian propaganda episodes on TV's "ER"?? -- and I guess the fact that Visnjic was a Croatian soldier, and the fact that his father-in-law, Vrdoljak, is a political ultranationalist linked to the corrupt and brutal, ethnic cleansing regime of Franjo Tudjman are just coincidence??

Come on. Brandubh Blathmac 16:03, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Pal, let me be clear: I don't care where your Croatian sympathies lie and I doubt I could even pick it out on a map. Propaganda is just someone's definition of POV, and I'm a Wikipedian, not the UN.

Your edits may be justified; don't know, don't care. Follow the rules and it won't be an issue, right?

Your name is interesting, though: Ravenblack Flowerson? CMacMillan 16:14, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dealing with editing conflicts

Hi there and welcome :) The RfAR I was referring to is a request for arbitration, which is the last step in our dispute resolution process. If you look at that editors talk page, the last message was a notice that he was suspected to be a sockpuppet of another user and had been added to a requested case.

Generally, when you run into editors that push their point of view and talking to them on the article discussion page or their talk page doesn't work, you'll want to look at other steps in the dispute resolution process. If the dispute is between yourself and one other editor, a lot of times a third opinion will help solve the problem. If its about content in an article, putting up a request for comments from other editors can help resolve the situation. There's also options like mediation for heated disputes and if none of these things work, you can bring up a request for comment on that editors conduct. The Arbitration Committee is a last resort if none of the other options are able to resolve the issue. If you browse through some of those links, there's a lot more information about the process and ideas on how to handle them.

Above all, don't let them get to you :) Stay cool, keep it from getting personal and use those dispute resolution steps as needed. Hopefully you'll find most editors are easy to deal with :) I haven't looked at the dispute, but since its on-going, I wanted to mention our three revert rule just so you don't accidentally run afoul of it -- essentially it states that you may revert an article only 3 times in 24 hours; more than 3 and you can get a short block. I'm usually of the opinion that if I have to consider reverting someone more than once (and its not obvious vandalism) that I should start looking into other options for the dispute.

Hope the info helps; let me know if there's anything more I can assist with. Thanks and happy editing! .:.Jareth.:. ^babelfish 17:26, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your help on Xeni Jardin article

Thanks for your help on Xeni Jardin article: I'm quite glad relieved that there might finally be a compromise instead of an edit war. --Christopherlin 04:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Glad I could help in some way. I doubt that it will be the end of it though, unfortunately. CMacMillan 22:06, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bigot in the classic 20th century Scottish and Northern Irish mold

I have just read your post on Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Rms125a@hotmail.com and I was wondering about this comment:

I'm a little bothered by the phrase "bigot in the classic 20th century Scottish and Northern Irish mold"

Why does this bother you? I did not mean to offend, but will gladly refrain from such comments in the future if they come over in a way which was not intended.

Fergie 19:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Fergie,

It read to me as if it meant '20th century Scots and Northern Irish are bigots', which I'm sure you didn't mean. After reviewing I think you meant that he's a 'bigot along the same lines as many of the bigots produced out of 20th C Scots and Northern Irish' rather than classifying all Scots/Northern Irish as bigots.

Every society has their bigots, unfortunately, but no society has cornered the market on them - yet. CMacMillan 02:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that was what I meant- the type of idiots found (thankfully rarely) in Scotland and NI when I was growing up. Most of them have now moved away from bashing catholics and onto harrassing muslims and asylum seekers these days, so it is unusual to come across people who still get hot under the collar about 'The Irish' Fergie 19:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

"Every society has their bigots,.." The north eastern part of Ireland could export them for a living. It has that many of them(bad people) Culnacreann 18:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ha, Ha

Your comments for the Stem cell vandalism revert made me laugh- "Based on that comment you might actually qualify as a stem cell." Very funny. SeanMD80 19:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

(*grin*) Thanks. I've found that reverting tons of articles with boring vandalism that doesn't even try to be creative makes you a little punchy. I mean, seriously, how many times can you read "(insert name here) is gay/stupid/a dick HA HA" before you just have to ramp up the insults a notch? I have to admit, I am trying hard not to do it ;) CMacMillan

[edit] Niloc

Just my first name spelled backwards. Thanks for noticing....Ha! Ha!

I don't know about you but nobody had a problem pronouncing my name till General Powell took centre stage. Then the "semi Colin" jokes re-emerged from my childhood. Thanks to therapy, I'm dealing with it! --Niloc 15:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rimouski

Thanks for your help for translation. I see you're better in french than me in english!

[edit] Spelling

Sorry about that. I never knew some spelling differed between the US and UK. Since Stephen Hawking is British, I'll deffinitely keep it at that.--Hyokano 16:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

JF Lepage 05:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 7 minute correction of Border Collie

Your recent correction of my one word insert into the Border Collie page was premature to say the least. I was in the middle of teaching my wife how to edit such errors.

I inserted the error in plain view and left her alone to seach and remove the inserted error by herself. 15 minutes later, I asked her what was taking so long... and she stated that she couldn't find it. No wonder... someone had already corrected the error within 7 minutes, and was even kind enough to send me a note stating so.

Being a dutiful Wikipedian is one thing, but you really ought to get a life.

--Written by David K. Brown 20:28, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I've vascillated between trying to take this with a smile and asking you to pull your head out of your own ass. I thought I had caught a training problem, welcomed a new user, and helped by reverting the offending change. You thank me, or let me know that what you were doing, with a nice sarcastic, insulting note. Way to go, Big Guy, pat yourself on the back for that and for teaching your wife that vandalism is okay in the name of teaching.

I've decided instead to ask that you not use the main articles - that others have dedicated hours to improving and maintaining - as your own personal training ground.

Oh, and the life's just fine, thanks, I've arranged it so that I don't have to deal with bad manners such as yours. CMacMillan 20:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] colored people's time

sorry for not making that change under my name, I had just forgotten to. This is the person who made the change twice to colored people's time.

I'm not changing it back in fear of being banned or anything like that, but african american is not accurate. not every black person is from africa. the black people who are here because their families were brought here on slaveships are not african since the importation of africans was entirely banned on the first day of 1808. so to say that blacks in america are "african american" is just nonsensical.

Hey, there, fifteenrabbits. I don't necessarily disagree with you on the point that not all Blacks in America are African Americans. I do believe the euphemism is political, and not an accurate portrayal. Especially since all live originated in Africa - which in theory makes everyone in the US an African American! ;) The issue here is that isn't not a necessary edit since African American is currently a politically acceptable phrase. You can bring it up on the talk page for the article and see what the consensus is. CMacMillan 01:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Hahaha, when you said that you replied to me in your user page I thought that you were implying that on your list of ridiculous people that I was either under "racist" or "righteously indignant." Either way, I'll put it up on the talk page. Maybe I'll change america! :/ Thanks.

Whoops! :) Forgot that was on there! Definitely not, but it was worth a laugh at least. *grin* No problem, and just drop me a line if you have any questions.

[edit] Re: User Block: Donnyjays6

Can you update the user talk:Donnyjays6 block... he's been blocked for "a period of Joe Sakic" *grin* CMacMillan 22:45, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Done! The WP toolbar doesn't work with Firefox 2.0, so the occassional mistake has been made with all of the manual typing required to warn and block editors this evening. Let's hope someone patches it soon! (aeropagitica) 22:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User page

Hi,

I always follow up edits to evolution to see who is writing there (call me strange)... So I came to your user page, and thank you, it gave me a good chuckle! --Michael Johnson 05:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Warning vandals

When you warn vandals or welcome users, make sure to put "subst:" in front of the name of the template. For example, use {{subst:test1}} rather than {{test1}}. Thanks! --M1ss1ontom a rs2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 01:39, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting

Hi CMacMillan

You revert a good faith entry to a discussion here using popups.

Why? ➨ ЯEDVERS 08:40, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Good question. Sorry about that, I'm not sure how that happened, but I certainly didn't mean to revert an entry like that. I only use popups for vandalism, but I was following that discussion closely and I must have clicked RV. Again, sorry. CMacMillan 13:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Why revert the truth about Fidel Castro his regime is a dictatorship. See Discussion on page.Tannim 16:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blanking

Please don't blank pages, even if one does require deletion. Instead, slow down and visit WP:CSD. Select a template that applies (they don't stretch) and apply it to the page. Blanking to achieve deletion can lead to accidental accusations of vandalism that then cannot be removed from your talk page. And we don't want that. ➨ ЯEDVERS 20:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Kind of like this? *grin* Thanks for the info, but I was trying to resurrect a page that used to exist, created a #REDIRECT then realized that the target no longer existed either. I blanked my own edit, and posted a request for help on the Administrator's Notice Board. CMacMillan 20:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mase

Yeah, if you look at his biographies and/or listen to his recent mixtape songs, you'll read/hear "Mase Murder." :) Lmz00 00:52, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Franks

No problem. I was following the edits of a suspected vandal and I came across the previous edit in the article. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 02:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Haha. Well, I am an Irishman (dual-citizen) and you appear to be a Scotsman. However, I'll be a prairie boy in about a month and a half. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 03:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Dogs

Thank you for having joined WikiProject Dogs. As you may have noted, it is a comparatively new group and the project page is still a little rough, but we're working on that. We just added a userbox for members of the project, and established the gallery of all the featured picture nominees. Our primary goal is to improve the articles, and I hope that you can continue to improve any and all that appeal to you. If you have any questions, please feel free to leave them on the project's talk page or contact myself or one of the other members directly. Thanks again for having joined! Badbilltucker 15:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Rumsfeld

Hi, MacMillan. It would seem that my contributions to the Rumsfeld article are being removed faster than I can find the sources to back them up(It would take me about three minutes or so to find a defense, but the claims vanish in about a minute). Whoever's undoing my edits is remarkably efficient. A whole section vanished before I could even find the statements to which I was making additional comments. I guess that the tidbits I know on the issue that aren't already mentioned are things that somebody around here is clearly not interested in. Because of this, I usually avoid directly contributing to political articles...contributions I make vanish within seconds just as soon as someone decides they don't want to know the little extra that I contribute, even if I do cite sources immediately. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by CormorantEnt (talk • contribs) .

I followed up on User talk:CormorantEnt -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 20:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Good catch on User talk:CormorantEnt; I missed that helpful little change between my edits to the page. -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 22:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Euskata vs. Thulean

THE REAL VANDAL IS thulean, I wont vandalize anymore but he keeps vandalizing White people still and he needs to be taught a vandalesson.--Euskata 00:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for removing the reference to John McCririck - I was going to do it right now. I admit to adding it for a specific joke, clearly it won't happen again.

[edit] Convienience store fellatio

That does sound like a bargain. Lol. Disinclination 06:52, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question (moved from your userpage)

Hello, I'm George415. When you get time, please tell me how to protect a page. Someone keeps putting in wrong things, and I would like to stop that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by George415 (talk • contribs).

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