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[edit] Fellowship of Friends page
Hi Redvers, I learnt about you from Han Amos. I am an editor of the Fellowship of Friends page. There is an editor (Veronicapoe) that is undoing edits without explaining the reasons. Do you have any advice? Thank you. Mario Fantoni 21:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fellowship of Friends page 2
Hi Redvers. Thank you for your prompt action - you are right about an edit war happening. Wine-in-ark created this page and added factual information from web sites and books. After him, Peter Ingle added long paragraphs copied from the organization's web site that looked like propaganda. He was told by Wine-in-ark to clean them and make them more encyclopedid but he never did. Later Veronicapoe added original research and long sections about cults that are more an essay on brainwashing than a description of the organization. She was told by Wine-in-ark to move most of his entries to the Talk page but she never acknowledged the suggestions. Things were pretty civilized until yesterday, when Veronicapoe started undoing all my edits (even the addition of commas or blank spaces) without any explanation either on the Talk page or directly to me. Today I decided to write to several Wikipedia administrators, including you, asking for help. Thanks for your time - your work keeps Wikipedia going. Mario Fantoni 00:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Peter Dobbie
User:Peter dobbie is in fact Peter Dobbie - so I've unblocked the username (it's not an impersonation, it's actually him). He called me this morning, incensed that his hard work uploading pictures had been deleted. I said I'd look into it ... looks like I'll be explaining to him what free content is, and why we don't accept with-permission ... might provide useful feedback for your explanation page too - David Gerard 15:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- I sent him a note explaining that deleting his employer's copyrighted works that he'd uploaded without paperwork was for his protection as much as for ours. If it turns out he does have the power to release BBC content under a free-content license, that'll be quite the event - David Gerard 16:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] FoF page edits
Hi Redvers, I just posted some suggested edits on the Fellowship of Friends Talk page (the page is blocked for editing so all changes have to me made through you). Thanks! Mario Fantoni 21:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ramcharan Teja has been added again
I noticed that you've deleted the article Ram charan Teja. But the article has been created again. I've added a Speedy Deletion tag. Is there any thing else that can be done ? --71.163.220.5 00:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The main page was of Vagyoga not for Gurudeva Vagish Shastri
Some one has transferred the page of Vagyoga to Gurudeva Vagish Shastri. I clearly mention here that this page is soley devoted to Vagyoga techniques not for his inventor. --Vagyoga 02:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 4 Digital Group
Hello again;
Would it be possible for you to express your support for my idea in talk:4 Digital Group as nobody else has yet responded except me and the page's creator, who is opposing my move.. -- Fursday 13:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Proof of Image Use permission
Greetings. On the new article for Family Foundation School, I have permission from the school to use their logo. However, you deleted it. How does one demonstrate permission to use an image? Thanks! - Wikiwag 15:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Deletinon Of Tinapa City Resort
Hey there, I see this is the second time you deleted my log on tinapa. You think I copied it from a site but Its actually for the 'For The Media' page on the www.tinapa.com site. Please visit it and cheeck it out. evrything I took was permitted by Tinapa LTD. Please reply. thanks, Lephilippe 194.46.166.164 16:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pittsburgh Organizing Group
I feel like you've made a bad call on deciding this was a delete, as I would have gone with a no-consensus. Basically, I feel that you've decided that the Post-Gazette is a not reputable source, which isn't our business to decide as wikipedia editors, or if it is, why not assume the London Times or Boston Globe aren't reliable sources. The Post-Gazette's writers have put their professional credibility behind the stories they post, and as it is a paper with 200k+ circulation, so I believe that makes their professional credibility enough for our standards. The articles quoted this group by name, and thats enough for me, and I'm a deletionist. But whatever, I don't really care that much. I'm just registering my disagreement with your decision. Cornell Rockey 01:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Cornell. Thanks for you note, which I read with interest. Obviously, I don't agree, as I set out in my reasoning on the AfD page. And the quality of sources is something we concern ourselves with (see WP:RS for a discussion on the matter). There are, put simply, some sources that are better than others in this world, and this article managed to have a broad spectrum of Not Good, Biased and Good-but-fails-to-mention-the-group-itself sources. All in all, it came well short of WP:RS and had major WP:V problems.
- However, the ground is not salted behind this article. It would be nice to see an article on the subject, but it needs to be one built up from reliable unbiased third-party sources. Without them, it is a stub with no claims to notability. This isn't good.
- I'm open to persuasion by reasoned argument on this, of course, from any editor. Alternatively, if you think I have been unreasonable in the closing or the decision, please say so at deletion review - I certainly won't think any less of you (or anyone else) for doing so as all my decisions should be transparent and open to review - this being a wiki! Thanks and happy editing! RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ 10:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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- What I meant above was that you've alone decided that the Post-Gazette did not pass WP:RS, and I think you're blatantly wrong to make that decision unilaterally. I know it is our duty to question all sources (thanks for reminding me!), but this isn't some poorly photocopied local rag, its a major newspaper, and if we're not going to trust that one, we shouldn't really trust Le Monde or The New York Times (or is there a line you draw somewhere between the Post-Gazette and those papers, and how do you draw that line?). Now, since you've gone and deleted the article, I can't go back and see what the sources said, but when I looked them through, I think I remember they indicated the presence of a group that organized the protests. Most of the article was entirely based upon information from their own website, which clearly isn't reliable enough to merit inclusion, but I feel that with a good amount of deleting, that article could have been parsed down to something that passed WP:ORG.
- Basically, I still think your delete decision is still wrong, IMHO. I would have gone with 'no consensus with drastic cleanup', but then again, I'm not an all powerful administrator. Cornell Rockey 04:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Delphine Records
Why did you delete Delphine Records? If it was the image you had a problem with you could have just deleted the logo? NOT THE WHOLE ARTICLE. I don't understand why you deleted it, and I would very much like it if you could UN-DELETE it. Thanks.
--Dashfan00 16:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Delphine Records. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Dashfan00 17:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#Delphine Records--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)|deletion review]] of [[:Delphine Records--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)--Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)]]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Dashfan00 17:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] A mad Hungarian writes...
Hi Redvers! Just thought I'd let you know that someone added a load of weasel words (which incidentally happened to be a load of poppycock) to the Westward Television article and their addition didn't even show up in the page history or my watchlist. Therefore I assume it must have been vandalised.
Now I'm going to calm down by listening to you announce over the Rediffusion line-up board again - which you do beautifully... ;) BTW: I've done the Stop Look Listen opening titles. Kecske Bak 19:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Mystery solved. I can now see the full page history - it was missing for a few days. It shows that the page was edited by someone called "OwenBlacker"; he seems to be a wikipedian of some standing, so I am at a loss to understand his edits to the Westward Television page. Kecske Bak 13:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fellowship of Friends page 3
Hi Redvers, thank you for your help with the Fellowship of Friends page. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have a question for you: today I noticed that one of the editors of the page ( Wine-in-ark ) is a Wikipedia Administrator. Is that a conflict of interest? Thanks again. Mario Fantoni 03:44, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Johnny the Vandal
Hi Redvers, I see that you've also fallen foul of the idiot Johnny the Vandal (Hephaestos is a really silly moron most recently). I just thought I'd welcome you to our select band -- if you're in anything like my position you can look forward to at least 3 years of this idiot vandalising your talk page :( Best regards, Arwel (talk) 11:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New edit war at the Fellowship of Friends page
Hi Redvers, there is an editor at the Fellowship of Friends page (Veronicapoe) that refuses to discuss controversial edits with the other editors before making them. Three editors (Wine-in-ark, Nixwisser and myself) have been trying to persuade her to cooperate without success. I see a new edit war coming. Please take a look at the Talk page and see it for yourself. Thank you, again. Mario Fantoni 05:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Guosa Language
Hey there, Is it possible for me to cut and paste items from this language as it is impossible for one except the author to possible write a full summary of the originations of this Language, for you see, it is a proposal and therefore sources are limited!! Thanks,Lephilippe
[edit] ITV News
Hi Redvers,
Not sure what exactly is wrong with including the Correspondents for ITV News ... I have looked at a number of Wiki entries for other stations and they all have the same. Channel 4 News for example lists all correspondents under the heading "other presenters / correspondents". London Tonight lists the programmes one screen reporters.
In particular I don't understand why you keep deleting my addition but not those for Channel 4 etc.
Please explain.
Best. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.219.44.247 (talk • contribs).
Have just looked and discovered that Five News also has a "other presenters / correspondents" catagory just like Channel 4 News. Why do they have them and not ITV news? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.219.44.247 (talk • contribs).
Sky News reporters are all listed under a 2 part cat - "Presenters and reporters".
In other words every entry for every British Television news network lists reporters and correspondents.
Surely you should delete all these or none at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.219.44.247 (talk • contribs).
[edit] ABC logo
About your question, nope! I was talking about the bogus ABC UK Color logo that starts on a blue background and ABC is next to the triangle, similar to the one in the other logo and has part of the Carolco 1982 music. Zeldabalooney2006
[edit] FoF page - sockpuppetry
Hi Redvers, I am going to check WP:DR and see what we can do. I already asked Veronicapoe for mediation and she refused, so I don't see a lot of hope. Regarding sockpuppetry, are you saying that Veronicapoe is Babycondor and that Unicorn144 is Nixwisser? If not, how can I find out about multiple identities? I am a 3-week old editor so please bear with my learning curve... Thanks again. Mario Fantoni 22:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
