Talk:Commonwealth of Independent States
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I'm not convinced about the credibility of http://www.cis.minsk.by/, as the site failed to list Turkmenistan as a member state(!), but I listed the link to it, since it has some good info. -Guppie
There should be a list of countries here Theanthrope
Also, the map does not agree with the first paragraph. Georgia is the same color with the CIS states. I know the creator of the map is busy for the next year but does anyone know which of the two is correct? Ulixes 18:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] NPOV?
I don't know enough about this subject to say, but is that second paragraph NPOV? "Signed an illegal agreement"? "Ignoring the referendum results (...) in fact, without disclosing the referendum results"? -Rwv37 05:19, May 3, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Somebody check Georgian civil war
People, somebody check the statement concerning Russia's direct involvment in Georgian civil war of 1993. Of course, Russia did interfere with every each conflict in the FSU, but not always directly. The contributor could mistakingly write about Russia's involvement on the side of Abkhaz separatists. However, Moscow did support the Shevardnadze's coup in both political and financial means.AlexPU 05:48, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright problem with last "CIS Crisis" section
I just discovered that User:Rydel in his contribution seems to have essentially copy-pasted several sentences from http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2005/apr/04/yehey/opinion/20050404opi6.html This is *BAD*. Frankly even the copy-pasted sentences were bad Wikipedia material and POVed, but that they were copy-pasted from an article makes this extra-extra bad.
Always, always, rewrite in your own words the information you find elsewhere -- and for that matter, it's good practice to cite your sources as well. I'll be now removing the offending sentences as soon as I can find a way to rewrite them. Aris Katsaris 06:53, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
- My bad. Sorry! I was too lazy to make a good addition. I first stumbled upon this article a couple weeks ago, and I was totally shocked by its POV (I am still). If a person reads this article, he might think CIS is some really cool organization like EU. In reality, there is almost NOTHING working in CIS now. It's falling apart. Nobody wants to meet anyobdy, and when they finally meet and sign something, nobody follows those aggreements. It's dying (which I think is the natural way of development for this strange "union"). I think the article should be rewritten, and this information should also be included in the opening paragraph. Just search news.google.com for "CIS", "Lukashenka(o)", "Putin", etc. to get an understanding on how this article fails to reflect the real situation with CIS. --rydel 08:59, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Confederation
The Commonwealth of Independent States is a confederation...
Does anyone else feel, like me, that "confederation" is too strong a term in respect of the CIS? Wikipedia's own entry on "confederation" states that:
A confederation in modern political terms, is usually limited to a permanent union of sovereign states for common action in relation to other states
To me, this goes beyond the present reality of a CIS which includes Ukraine (and a number of Central Asian states hosting US military bases). -- Picapica 18:00, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- On the other hand, Confederation also states that the European Union and United Nations are confederations. If those are confederations, why would the CIS not be one? (Note the presence of U.S. military bases in a number of EU members as well.) PubliusFL 17:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Common Economic Space
I've noticed the following piped link [[Eurasian Economic Community|Common Economic Space]], looked into the corresponding article and edited this piece in what I've thought would have been a more correct way. But reading the CIS article to the bottom I started to suspect that the terms "Common Economic Space" and "Eurasian Economic Community" are not completely interchangeable, so I reverted my edit.
So, here is a contradiction: the pipe mentioned above assumes that EUEC and CES are the same. But the text at the bottom section speaks about them as if these are different notions. Can someone make an order with them? mikka (t) 20:38, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Flag question
Can anyone tell if the difference between Image:CIS.gif and Image:Flag of the CIS.svg is significant, or is it a different representation of a same flag? Conscious 15:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- After reviewing [1], I see no evidence for the flag change. I am therefore removing the reference to the "original flag" from the article and deleting the GIF image. Conscious 17:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Membership list
I think might be helpful to categorize the membership list. (i.e. full members, associate members, members outside the military treaties, etc).Joshua Friel 14:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
